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Victor
December 27th 03, 02:19 AM
I am planning on a flight to a ski resort.
This will be the first time I adventure flying to
the mountains and temperatures below freezing. I
have 170 hrs TT and will be flying VFR only.

What should I be considering?
I currently use aeroshell 100W I believe I should
change it?
How to clean the plane from ice and snow the day
we plan to leave?
Any other thing to consider?

Thanks for your help.

Ron Natalie
December 27th 03, 02:20 AM
"Victor" > wrote in message om...
>
> What should I be considering?
> I currently use aeroshell 100W I believe I should
> change it?

Put in 15W50. Even the Shell 80 is thicker than what most
engines recommend for cold weather ops.

Geoffrey Barnes
December 27th 03, 03:05 AM
Which resort are you going to? For instance, here in Western Pennsylvania,
the Seven Springs resort has a private landing strip very close to the main
lodge. There are a number of things to think of before you use it, though.
Since it's private, you may need to call for permission to use it. Also,
they don't make much revenue from the airstrip, since most people drive in.
When it snows (and it snows there alot), the roads and parking lots are
cleared first. The airstrip is not as big a priority.

So it may pay to call ahead.

Tune2828
December 27th 03, 03:39 AM
where are you flying too? quite a few ski resorts around. i live in colorado
and eagle county EGE is most centrally located to Vail and all Summit County
resorts.

It's in a decent size valley and much easier than Aspen. And you may see Kobe
in the FBO.

Get a colorado aeronautical chart to see various passes and mountains. If
weather's bad you can fly to centennial or jeffco in denver and drive up for an
hour

and if you're going to southwestern colorado use durango, DRO - another easy
big valley aiport

have fun and watch out for fast moving cold fronts and storms.

Blanche
December 27th 03, 05:26 AM
Which ski area?
Are you allowed to park the aircraft there?
Have you had any mountain flying training?
What type of aircraft are you using?

Victor
December 27th 03, 12:23 PM
Will be flying to Ruidoso,NM I have flown mostly in flat south Texas.
And will be flying to Ruidoso later continuing to Las Vegas.

Ron Natalie
December 27th 03, 05:30 PM
"Blanche" > wrote in message ...
> Which ski area?
> Are you allowed to park the aircraft there?
> Have you had any mountain flying training?
> What type of aircraft are you using?
>
Around here you can fly to Garrett County (Wisp). You can't fly to
7 Springs. While there is an airport there, it's not available when the
snow is on the ground (the ski slope cuts right across it).

Colin
December 27th 03, 07:04 PM
(Tune2828) wrote:

>where are you flying too? quite a few ski resorts around. i live in colorado
>and eagle county EGE is most centrally located to Vail and all Summit County
>resorts.
>
>It's in a decent size valley and much easier than Aspen. And you may see Kobe
>in the FBO.
>
>Get a colorado aeronautical chart to see various passes and mountains. If
>weather's bad you can fly to centennial or jeffco in denver and drive up for an
>hour

Denver to Vail in one hour ?? At least two hours on empty roads,
perhaps five on a Saturday morning.
- Colin

>and if you're going to southwestern colorado use durango, DRO - another easy
>big valley aiport
>
>have fun and watch out for fast moving cold fronts and storms.

...
December 29th 03, 04:20 AM
Victor wrote:
> Will be flying to Ruidoso,NM I have flown mostly in flat south Texas.
> And will be flying to Ruidoso later continuing to Las Vegas.

Well, Sierra Blanca Airport (SRR) is the public airport at Ruidoso. But
as Blanche pointed out you get into mountain flying area with all the
joy (some of it I learned the hard way ;*), such as leaning, strong
up/down drafts, waves and rotors, ...
Ice shouldn't be too much of a factor if you fly VFR. Typically the NM
air is rather dry (with exceptions, of course). Also, before departing,
if you remove potential snow from the plane and put the plane in the
sun, the ice will often just disappear (sublimate) rather quickly.

Also the MOAs above Ruidoso shouldn't be a factor if you stay below
12500ft MSL (except for the TALON LOW MOA southwest of Ruidoso which
starts at 300AGL).

Call ahead to check for snow on the rundway and have your survival gear
ready - there is awful lot of space in the Land of Enchantment ;*).

Chris

...
December 29th 03, 04:22 PM
.... wrote:
> Victor wrote:
>
>> Will be flying to Ruidoso,NM I have flown mostly in flat south Texas.
>> And will be flying to Ruidoso later continuing to Las Vegas.
>
>
> Well, Sierra Blanca Airport (SRR) is the public airport at Ruidoso. But
> as Blanche pointed out you get into mountain flying area with all the
> joy (some of it I learned the hard way ;*), such as leaning, strong
> up/down drafts, waves and rotors, ...
> Ice shouldn't be too much of a factor if you fly VFR. Typically the NM
> air is rather dry (with exceptions, of course). Also, before departing,
> if you remove potential snow from the plane and put the plane in the
> sun, the ice will often just disappear (sublimate) rather quickly.
>
> Also the MOAs above Ruidoso shouldn't be a factor if you stay below
> 12500ft MSL (except for the TALON LOW MOA southwest of Ruidoso which
^^^^^^^^^ make that
southeast - Chris

> starts at 300AGL).
>
> Call ahead to check for snow on the rundway and have your survival gear
> ready - there is awful lot of space in the Land of Enchantment ;*).
>
> Chris
>

Andrew Sarangan
December 29th 03, 08:50 PM
(Victor) wrote in message >...
> Will be flying to Ruidoso,NM I have flown mostly in flat south Texas.
> And will be flying to Ruidoso later continuing to Las Vegas.

Ruidoso is not particularly difficult to fly to. If the temperature is
below freezing, density altitude should not be a problem. However,
watch out for mountain waves and turbulence if the winds aloft are
greater than 20 knots.

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