Hi,

I ran into a pilot who was eagerly describing his 185 amphibian and remember
seeing several wheeled versions and float versions in Fort Simpson a few
years ago. I vaguely recall the (wheeled) 185 being a trike.

How do the 182 and 185 differ?

Marc

185 on wheels is tail wheel configuration;182 is nosewheel
185 usually has 300hp & three bladed prop;182 is 230hp&two blades
185 has a straight tail;
182 since about 1962 models have wider fuselage, and swept tail

there are other differences too.
my 182L is worth about $75k; similarly well-equipped 185 would be $150K.

180 is the narrow fuselage, straight-tail 182 on conventional gear.

MikeM
Skylane 182L '1MM
Pacer '00Z

Marc Lattoni wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I ran into a pilot who was eagerly describing his 185 amphibian and remember
> seeing several wheeled versions and float versions in Fort Simpson a few
> years ago. I vaguely recall the (wheeled) 185 being a trike.
>
> How do the 182 and 185 differ?
>
> Marc

"Marc Lattoni" > wrote in message
news:OheOb.25646$Eq.7142@clgrps12...
> Hi,
>
> I ran into a pilot who was eagerly describing his 185 amphibian and
remember
> seeing several wheeled versions and float versions in Fort Simpson a few
> years ago. I vaguely recall the (wheeled) 185 being a trike.

You don't remember to pretty good. 185 is a 180 on significant steroids.
Neither have a training wheel. 185 will do things a 182 can't even dream
about.

> How do the 182 and 185 differ?
>
> Marc
>
>

Marc Lattoni wrote:
>
> How do the 182 and 185 differ?

The 185 has conventional gear, has either 260 or 300 hp, depending on the year,
seats 6, can haul over 1600 pounds, and cruises at a bit over 165 mph.

The 182 is a trike, has 230 hp, seats 4, can haul about 1300 pounds, and cruises
at a bit over 155 mph.

Fill the tanks, and the 185 still hauls over a quarter ton. Great bush plane.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Marc Lattoni wrote:
> >
> > How do the 182 and 185 differ?
>
> The 185 has conventional gear, has either 260 or 300 hp, depending on the
year,
> seats 6, can haul over 1600 pounds, and cruises at a bit over 165 mph.
>
> The 182 is a trike, has 230 hp, seats 4, can haul about 1300 pounds, and
cruises
> at a bit over 155 mph.


Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?

Just done a search...
http://www.skydivestandrews.co.uk/html_pages/facility.htm
says
"The Cessna 185 aircraft is effectively the 'tail dragger' equivalent of a
Cessna 206, and should not be confused with the entirely different Cessna
182."

Paul

Paul Sengupta wrote:
>
>
> Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?

The 180 came first. Narrow body, 230 HP, tail wheel. Then in '56 came
the 182. It was just the 180 with a nosewheel. In '61 the 185 was
born. It was the same as the 180 with a 260 HP IO-470 engine. Some
structural beef up was included. In '62 the 182 was widened 4 inches.
In '63 the 205 was introduced, it was the 210 with fixed gear, although
at the time it was called the Super Skylane. In '64 Cessna beefed up
the 205 and created the 206. In '65 the 205 was dropped. In '66 the
185 got the 520 for 285 HP as an option, standard in '67.

"Newps" > wrote in message
news:wAUOb.100295$I06.444117@attbi_s01...
> Paul Sengupta wrote:
> >
> >
> > Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?
>
> The 180 came first. Narrow body, 230 HP, tail wheel. Then in '56 came
> the 182. It was just the 180 with a nosewheel. In '61 the 185 was
> born. It was the same as the 180 with a 260 HP IO-470 engine. Some
> structural beef up was included. In '62 the 182 was widened 4 inches.
> In '63 the 205 was introduced, it was the 210 with fixed gear, although
> at the time it was called the Super Skylane. In '64 Cessna beefed up
> the 205 and created the 206. In '65 the 205 was dropped. In '66 the
> 185 got the 520 for 285 HP as an option, standard in '67.

Bleargh!

So was the 185 ever widened? When did it get 6 seats, or did it always
have 6 seats in certain guises? In the same size plane as a 180? Or as a
later 182? 'eck!

Paul

Paul Sengupta wrote:
>
> So was the 185 ever widened?

No.

> When did it get 6 seats, or did it always have 6 seats in certain guises?

It always had 6. The 180 had 6 after 1963.

> In the same size plane as a 180?

Yep.

> Or as a later 182?

The 182 is longer and taller, but has the same wingspan.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Paul Sengupta wrote:

> "Newps" > wrote in message
> news:wAUOb.100295$I06.444117@attbi_s01...
>
>>Paul Sengupta wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?
>>
>>The 180 came first. Narrow body, 230 HP, tail wheel. Then in '56 came
>>the 182. It was just the 180 with a nosewheel. In '61 the 185 was
>>born. It was the same as the 180 with a 260 HP IO-470 engine. Some
>>structural beef up was included. In '62 the 182 was widened 4 inches.
>>In '63 the 205 was introduced, it was the 210 with fixed gear, although
>>at the time it was called the Super Skylane. In '64 Cessna beefed up
>>the 205 and created the 206. In '65 the 205 was dropped. In '66 the
>>185 got the 520 for 285 HP as an option, standard in '67.
>
>
> Bleargh!
>
> So was the 185 ever widened?

No.


When did it get 6 seats,

Never.


or did it always
> have 6 seats in certain guises?

Well, like the 182 it had an option for those jokes they call childs seats.


In the same size plane as a 180? Or as a
> later 182? 'eck!

The 180 and the 185 always were and are the same size. Now, they do
have some pretty nice extended baggage areas that can be installed. As
a matter of fact Selkirk Aviation just got an extended baggage for the
wide body 182's STC'd. I'll be doing that to mine, it goes back from
the current rear bulkhead 34 inches.

In article <TJWOb.101010$xy6.181841@attbi_s02>,
Newps > wrote:


> When did it get 6 seats,
>
> Never.

Huh? 185 has 6 seats...and the rear seats are big enough for a 6"2"
175lb person.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

The 185's rear seats are basically kid seats. It's pretty tight in the
back, not like a 206. 206 is more popular with guys hauling people or
freight off average strips. The 185 is better for unimproved strips.
And the 185 is for real pilots.

Dan

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message >...
> Paul Sengupta wrote:
> >
> > So was the 185 ever widened?
>
> No.
>
> > When did it get 6 seats, or did it always have 6 seats in certain guises?
>
> It always had 6. The 180 had 6 after 1963.
>
> > In the same size plane as a 180?
>
> Yep.
>
> > Or as a later 182?
>
> The 182 is longer and taller, but has the same wingspan.
>
> George Patterson
> Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
> "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

For all things 180/185 check out
http://www.skywagon.com/skywagons.html
click on the "model changes"

Both the 180 and 185 have narrower cabins than the 182. Neither the
180 or 185 have a rear full height cargo door (something the 206 has).
But the 206 doesn't have a copilot door. Both the 180 and 185 have the
"jack screw" trim (on the floor) as opposed to a "trim tab". Both the
180 and 185 have manual flaps. The models evolved over the years,
bigger better engines, slightly differnt wings and modern (basic six)
panels.

Early Cessna 182's were narrower than the later models, and the early
182's had the "jack screw" trim and manual flaps. The early 182's were
a nosewheel version of the 180, but after they changed the 182 to the
modern config, it got a wider cabin, different trim and electric flaps
so the differences grew over time.

The 206 is larger and will hold large cargo. It is substantially
easier to load and unload. It has a nosewheel of course. If fitted
with the STC's copilot door, it is the most desirable small
charter/freight airplane up north.

Dale > wrote in news:dfalk-5BA37B.16182819012004
@corp.supernews.com:

> In article <TJWOb.101010$xy6.181841@attbi_s02>,
> Newps > wrote:
>
>
>> When did it get 6 seats,
>>
>> Never.
>
> Huh? 185 has 6 seats...and the rear seats are big enough for a 6"2"
> 175lb person.
>

I remember spending some time in the back of a 185 as a skinny 12 year old
kid. It was tight with two us back there and the seat was very low. Two
adults would be a real squeeze.

- Carl -

Doug wrote:

> Both the 180 and 185 have narrower cabins than the 182. Neither the
> 180 or 185 have a rear full height cargo door (something the 206 has).
> But the 206 doesn't have a copilot door.

The P206 does. The U206 does not.

> Dale > wrote in news:dfalk-5BA37B.16182819012004
> @corp.supernews.com:
>
>
>>In article <TJWOb.101010$xy6.181841@attbi_s02>,
>> Newps > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> When did it get 6 seats,
>>>
>>>Never.
>>
>>Huh? 185 has 6 seats...and the rear seats are big enough for a 6"2"
>>175lb person.

The 185 is a four place airplane, just like the 180 because that is what
it is. You can get a childs seat for two in the baggage area. Just
like the 182 or even the girlie cherokee 140. You either get those two
seats in the baggae area or a place to carry baggage, but not both.

Newps, The 185 is not a 4 place. You probably just saw one without the rear
seat in it, but it is indeed a 6 place airplane. I know this because I've
read the POH. That and the fact that we stuff 5 pax in them everyday. That's
5 pax plus pilot.

The big debate however, which is almost always between the two people you're
trying to stuff in the back seat, is can two adults really fit back there.
Well they can and yes it is extremely tight. Most have said it was 'ok' but
I'm sure they were only being polite and probably wouldn't chose to sit
there again if they had the choice.

We have the WingX kit on our 185's so we get an additional 150lbs of useful
load, which helps for the weight of that extra adult crammed in the back.

PJ

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"Newps" > wrote in message
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> The 185 is a four place airplane, just like the 180 because that is what
> it is. You can get a childs seat for two in the baggage area. Just
> like the 182 or even the girlie cherokee 140. You either get those two
> seats in the baggae area or a place to carry baggage, but not both.
>