Had some time to kill this afternoon, so I uploaded 18 (yep, EIGHTEEN) new
aviation videos to our website.

These have been sent to me by folks from all over the world. Everything
from video of a new helicopter owner who tried to take 'er for a spin
without the bother of flight lessons (oops!), to three different shots of
the World Trade Center terrorist attacks, to a crazy dude flying a Sukhoi
under a loooow bridge.

I also posted a link to "405 - The Movie". If you haven't seen this flick,
you've got to see it. It's amazing!

Check 'em out at http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm .
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I'm a little surprised to be writing this, but I don't care to ever see WTC
attack footage again.

I'm a little surprised that you chose to add those clips, but I'll not
preach to you. Just thinking out loud...

Hi Jay..

Most of the new vids.. My player says they are not valid MPG4
files... (?) ...and cannot play them...

Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Dave


On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:12:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>Had some time to kill this afternoon, so I uploaded 18 (yep, EIGHTEEN) new
>aviation videos to our website.
>
>These have been sent to me by folks from all over the world. Everything
>from video of a new helicopter owner who tried to take 'er for a spin
>without the bother of flight lessons (oops!), to three different shots of
>the World Trade Center terrorist attacks, to a crazy dude flying a Sukhoi
>under a loooow bridge.
>
>I also posted a link to "405 - The Movie". If you haven't seen this flick,
>you've got to see it. It's amazing!
>
>Check 'em out at http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm .

wrote:
> Hi Jay..
>
> Most of the new vids.. My player says they are not valid MPG4
> files... (?) ...and cannot play them...
>
> Any thoughts? Suggestions?
>
> Dave
>
I down loaded them as "filename.mpg.mp4" then deleted the ".mp4"
now they are "filename.mpg" and play fine.

Well it works now:)
WW

> Most of the new vids.. My player says they are not valid MPG4
> files... (?) ...and cannot play them...
>
> Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Download the latest Windows Media Player (there's a link on the video page
itself) and make it your default video player.

Everything runs properly from that point on.

Whatever you do, do NOT make "Realplayer" your default. That stupid program
intertwines itself everywhere.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

> I'm a little surprised to be writing this, but I don't care to ever see
WTC
> attack footage again.
>
> I'm a little surprised that you chose to add those clips, but I'll not
> preach to you. Just thinking out loud...

Interesting that you say that. I, too, feel deeply saddened and angry all
over again when I watched those videos, and I debated whether to put them on
the website.

After reflection I decided that while re-living September 11th is truly
awful, it *is* an important day in our history. And it *is* remarkable,
unique aviation footage.

And, finally, let's not forget that the ******* who instigated that attack
is still out there, still at large, still gathering support. Still on the
run. Still threatening to kill.

Perhaps we need to feel that anger anew?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Download the latest Windows Media Player (there's a link on the video page
> itself) and make it your default video player.

Some of us do not load ANY MicroSoft products on our machines.
QuickTime is preferred. ;-))

> Some of us do not load ANY MicroSoft products on our machines.
> QuickTime is preferred. ;-))

I tried Quicktime. While it works fine, the videos play back very small --
like, 3 inches on a side.

I tinkered with it till I was blue in the face, and simply could not figure
out how to make Quicktime default to full-screen playback.

So, in typical computer fashion, I purged it with great prejudice...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:iYVZb.365522$I06.3815102@attbi_s01...
>> Most of the new vids.. My player says they are not valid MPG4
>> files... (?) ...and cannot play them...
>>
>> Any thoughts? Suggestions?
>
> Download the latest Windows Media Player (there's a link on the video page
> itself) and make it your default video player.
>
> Everything runs properly from that point on.

I had the same issue while using WMP 9 where they came up as an unknown
format and would not play until changing the extension.


>
> Whatever you do, do NOT make "Realplayer" your default. That stupid
> program
> intertwines itself everywhere.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

they played ok on the latest free QuickTime video player

BT

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:iYVZb.365522$I06.3815102@attbi_s01...
> > Most of the new vids.. My player says they are not valid MPG4
> > files... (?) ...and cannot play them...
> >
> > Any thoughts? Suggestions?
>
> Download the latest Windows Media Player (there's a link on the video page
> itself) and make it your default video player.
>
> Everything runs properly from that point on.
>
> Whatever you do, do NOT make "Realplayer" your default. That stupid
program
> intertwines itself everywhere.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

That pretty much mirrors something a dear and wise friend had to say about
that footage. As she put it, the world should be reminded of the horror of
that day, and to remember that it's not just Manhattan or the US that's a
target, but anyone, anywhere.

That said, I'll just add this. While I agree that "it *is* an important day
in our history. And it *is* remarkable, unique aviation footage.", I think
you agree that the event depicted in those clips is far more emotionally and
historically significant than anything else on that page, and that bothers
me. It's just there, alphabetized along with airshow mishaps and such,
analogous to having the zapruder film on a page full of presidential parade
clips. I know it isn't your intention to cheapen 9/11, but as that page is,
that's the impression I get - another "cool" aviation video.

I'd suggest setting it apart from the others somehow. Not necessarily it's
own page, but just not lumped in with the rest as it is. But again, it's
just me thinking out loud here - you said you weighed adding them at all,
and I respect your right to operate your site as you see fit. Just a
thought. :)

Whoops, hit REPLY a bit too soon.
I wanted to add that what you wrote in your response here would do nicely as
an intro to those clips.

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message

I, too, feel deeply saddened and angry all
> over again when I watched those videos, and I debated whether to put them
on
> the website.
>
> After reflection I decided that while re-living September 11th is truly
> awful, it *is* an important day in our history. And it *is* remarkable,
> unique aviation footage.
>
> And, finally, let's not forget that the ******* who instigated that attack
> is still out there, still at large, still gathering support. Still on the
> run. Still threatening to kill.
>
> Perhaps we need to feel that anger anew?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:16:45 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:


[i]
>After reflection I decided that while re-living September 11th is truly
>awful, it *is* an important day in our history. And it *is* remarkable,
>unique aviation footage.

.... and everything that came after that day became very important for the
"_rest_" of the world ... :-(

>And, finally, let's not forget that the ******* who instigated that attack
>is still out there, still at large, still gathering support.

And now you are surprised?

>Still on the
>run. Still threatening to kill.

besides you don't have 100% proof of this (you are only repeating what
othres say): not wanting to playing down the event, it wsa tragic and all,
but first: there came even worser things from involved parties one does not
expect implementing them and second: life goes on. sad for the families and
friends directly involved, but true.

For The Homeland! Heil Hi^wRidge!

#m
--
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:24:02 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>I tinkered with it till I was blue in the face, and simply could not figure
>out how to make Quicktime default to full-screen playback.

PEBKAC

#m

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http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

In article <iYVZb.365522$I06.3815102@attbi_s01>, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

> Whatever you do, do NOT make "Realplayer" your default. That stupid
> program
> intertwines itself everywhere.

the ms programs do that as well.

--
Bob Noel

> It's just there, alphabetized along with airshow mishaps and such,
> analogous to having the zapruder film on a page full of presidential
parade
> clips. I know it isn't your intention to cheapen 9/11, but as that page
is,
> that's the impression I get - another "cool" aviation video.

Excellent point. It does appear insensitive, the way they are currently
listed.

I will somehow put them in their own category, so they're not shown as just
another "cool video"...

Thanks for your input!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

>
> footage from 9/11 - I bet everyone and his dog secured their rights on
> these clips; one court order and your company site is gone. For the sake[/color]
of[i]
> your company I'd put these files on another domain or delete them. But
this
> is only me.]

Type "9/11 video" into Google or Yahoo.

You'll get over 2 million hits. Most of them have the video. (Well,
actually I got bored after looking at the first 100 or so...) I'm
apparently in good company.

It's important video, and it belongs to all Americans. We will never
forget.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Bob Noel" > wrote in message

>
> the ms programs do that as well.

Not to the degree of RealOne.

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_search.asp?developerid=4415
____________________

"Jay Honeck" > writes:

> > It's just there, alphabetized along with airshow mishaps and such,
> > analogous to having the zapruder film on a page full of presidential
> parade
> > clips. I know it isn't your intention to cheapen 9/11, but as that page
> is,
> > that's the impression I get - another "cool" aviation video.
>
> Excellent point. It does appear insensitive, the way they are currently
> listed.
>
> I will somehow put them in their own category, so they're not shown as just
> another "cool video"...

If you do create a separate category for 9/11, you might have links to
a couple of sites with appropriate tributes to the victims, both
safety personnel (FDNY, police, and so on) and civilians. Not long
after 9/11 I saw a very moving site that had all the victims' names,
many of their photos, all animated with Enya's "Only Time" piece. I
tried to find it last night but Google by now has too many. Another
great site was that place in Utah, Salt Lake City I think, that had
American flags for each victim. I'll try to search around a bit and
offer URLs so as to save you some time.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> I tried Quicktime. While it works fine, the videos play back very small --
> like, 3 inches on a side.
> I tinkered with it till I was blue in the face, and simply could not figure
> out how to make Quicktime default to full-screen playback.
> So, in typical computer fashion, I purged it with great prejudice...
> ;-)

I guess you forgot to look at the menu bar.
- Half Size
- Normal Size
- Double Size
- Fill Screen

;-))

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Perhaps we need to feel that anger anew?

A few weeks after the attack, I wrote Sam Venable (a columnist with the Knoxville
paper). Part of what I said then went "My anger in this matter is cold and firm.
I don't think that will change in six months. Or six years. My uncle is still
angry over Pearl Harbor, and that didn't kill half as many people."

It's still true.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

> If you do create a separate category for 9/11, you might have links to
> a couple of sites with appropriate tributes to the victims, both
> safety personnel (FDNY, police, and so on) and civilians.

I have rearranged the page a bit, hopefully to address this issue. See the
new version at http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm .

Comments and suggestions are welcome!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

> Jay Honeck > wrote:

> Comments and suggestions are welcome!

Ok..... Stop spamming newsgroups.

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:01:18 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> [I don't want to repeat the copyright issue again ... you even present
>> footage from 9/11 - I bet everyone and his dog secured their rights on
>> these clips; one court order and your company site is gone. For the sake
>of
>> your company I'd put these files on another domain or delete them. But
>this
>> is only me.]
>
>Type "9/11 video" into Google or Yahoo.
>
>You'll get over 2 million hits. Most of them have the video. (Well,
>actually I got bored after looking at the first 100 or so...) I'm
>apparently in good company.

ok, that must make it legal and the footage public domain. no doubt. go
ahead.
I bet you can find hundreds of people with Microsoft (or replace with other
buyware) products installed without proper lincensing - they are so many,
now *that* makes it legal.

>It's important video,

true

> and it belongs to all Americans.

so the footage and all videos of this event is public domain?

> We will never forget.

good. I have no problem with that.

#m

--
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:14:23 GMT, My suggestion wrote:

>> Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
>> Comments and suggestions are welcome!
>
>Ok..... Stop spamming newsgroups.

Subject: Re: They're watching you...
Message-ID: >
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:10:21 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.184.141.129
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Subject: Re: More Aviation Videos
Message-ID: >
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:14:23 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.184.141.129
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you are the same idi^Wcoward as on the other topic hiding behind faked
email addresses. YOU ARE A COWARD. stand with your name to your opinion.

#m

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"Martin Hotze" > wrote in message

>
> you are the same idi^Wcoward as on the other topic hiding behind faked
> email addresses.

Without commenting on the validity of the coward accusation, you should know
better than to assume these two posts are from the same poster based on
nothing more than IP addresses. Surely someone in your line of work is
familiar with the concept of routers and gateways.

--
John T
____________________

> Ok..... Stop spamming newsgroups.

Um, at the risk of starting yet another dispute, why is posting a link to a
page of aviation videos not appropriate in a piloting newsgroup?

They aren't for sale. They are there for everyone to view.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Martin Hotze > writes:
> --
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

Hi Martin, with respect to your cartoon of February 22, 2004 with the
headline "Another game for the US government to restrict because 'it
has bombs and stuff in it.'", followed by a picture of the Minesweeper
game; actually I think we'd be a lot more concerned if the game had
pictures of right-hand brown breasts in it, don't you think?

> I guess you forgot to look at the menu bar.
> - Half Size
> - Normal Size
> - Double Size
> - Fill Screen

When Quicktime loads automatically as your default player (when you click on
a link), there is no menu bar.

That was the frustration I had with it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
> A few weeks after the attack, I wrote Sam Venable (a columnist with the
Knoxville
> paper). Part of what I said then went "My anger in this matter is cold and
firm.
> I don't think that will change in six months. Or six years. My uncle is
still
> angry over Pearl Harbor, and that didn't kill half as many people."
>
> It's still true.

For some people, I suppose. Don't think for one moment that everyone feels
the same way though.

There's enough anger in the world already, IMHO, without us savoring it,
nurturing it, carrying it through our entire lives.

Pete

"John T" > wrote in message
, you should know
> better than to assume these two posts are from the same poster based on
> nothing more than IP addresses. Surely someone in your line of work is
> familiar with the concept of routers and gateways ( . . .)

. . . Whose IP address change rather infrequently. A couple of posts made
on the same day with the same IP address (notwithstanding the same general
content and writing style) can be a pretty good indicator the posts came
form the same person.

--
Jim Fisher

"Jim Fisher" > wrote in message

>
> . . . Whose IP address change rather infrequently. A couple of
> posts made on the same day with the same IP address (notwithstanding
> the same general content and writing style) can be a pretty good
> indicator the posts came form the same person.

Likely, but not necessarily a safe assumption. That's all.

--
John T
____________________

Peter Duniho wrote:
>
> For some people, I suppose. Don't think for one moment that everyone feels
> the same way though.

I haven't thought that for as long as I can remember.

> There's enough anger in the world already, IMHO, without us savoring it,
> nurturing it, carrying it through our entire lives.

Your choice. As far as I'm concerned, the time to stop hating them is when they're
all dead. As Jay said, Bin Laden's still out there somewhere.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

> who is included in this *all*? does this include their parents, kids and
> neighbors, too?

I believe the war is on terrorists -- not on their kids, parents, or
neighbors.

Of course, what makes terrorists so despicable is that they cower amongst
their children after killing another bus-load of women, making it difficult
(if not impossible) to kill them without harming those around them.

Bottom line: Until the fascist societies that spawn these scum realize that
they are being duped by monsters, innocents will die, too.

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"