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Mark Cherry
October 7th 03, 12:50 AM
Hi all,

Did any of you who got as far as starting the install of this notice the warning
that it can't be uninstalled?


Does anyone know if it's a 'beta' version of some kind? If so, the webpage
doesn't say so.

If it's not uninstallable, what happens if the PC is a disaster area after the
upgrade? (Like mine was...)



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ATI Radeon 9200 256Mb dual head; 15" FST
all on a MSI 865PE Neo2 m/b
latest ATI Catalyst driver & Control panel
DX9.0b
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Dan
October 7th 03, 01:33 AM
There is no such thing as an uninstallable version of DX.
They are what Microsoft calls core components of your OS. What one can do is
if you are running Windows XP or Windows ME is use the restore function to
return to an earlier time before you installed the newer version of DX.
Besides DX 9.0b is a patch that addresses problems that were in DX9.0 and
DX9.0a.
Hope it helps

"Mark Cherry" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> Did any of you who got as far as starting the install of this notice the
warning
> that it can't be uninstalled?
>
>
> Does anyone know if it's a 'beta' version of some kind? If so, the
webpage
> doesn't say so.
>
> If it's not uninstallable, what happens if the PC is a disaster area after
the
> upgrade? (Like mine was...)
>
>
>
> --
> Happy landings
>
> Mark
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> MS FS2002 Pro Edition
> P4 3.06gHz (800fsb); 512Mb DDR; Maxtor 200Gb
> ATI Radeon 9200 256Mb dual head; 15" FST
> all on a MSI 865PE Neo2 m/b
> latest ATI Catalyst driver & Control panel
> DX9.0b
> Microsoft SideWinder Precision Pro (USB)
> CH Virtual Pilot Pro
> Thrustmaster Elite Pedals
> Quickshot MasterPilot
> CD-RW 52x...
> DVD-ROM
>
>

Mark Cherry
October 7th 03, 11:03 PM
In ,
Dan wrote:

> There is no such thing as an uninstallable version of DX.
> They are what Microsoft calls core components of your OS. What one
> can do is if you are running Windows XP or Windows ME is use the
> restore function to return to an earlier time before you installed
> the newer version of DX. Besides DX 9.0b is a patch that addresses
> problems that were in DX9.0 and DX9.0a.
> Hope it helps

In other words, you need to create a 'restore point' before starting the install
procedure?

If it's one of those things where it installs itself straight after downloading
it (ie while you're still on the phone!)
then you have to remember to set this restore point BEFORE you even commence the
download.

regards,


Mark



> "Mark Cherry" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Did any of you who got as far as starting the install of this notice
>> the warning that it can't be uninstalled?
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know if it's a 'beta' version of some kind? If so, the
>> webpage doesn't say so.
>>
>> If it's not uninstallable, what happens if the PC is a disaster area
>> after the upgrade? (Like mine was...)

ArtP
October 8th 03, 04:06 AM
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:03:16 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
> wrote:


>In other words, you need to create a 'restore point' before starting the install
>procedure?


Whenever I update XP it automatically creates a restore point. I find
that I can back out of individual changes, even when they were done
during the same update session.

John Penta
October 8th 03, 06:08 AM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:06:05 GMT, ArtP
> wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:03:16 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
> wrote:
>
>
>>In other words, you need to create a 'restore point' before starting the install
>>procedure?
>
>
>Whenever I update XP it automatically creates a restore point. I find
>that I can back out of individual changes, even when they were done
>during the same update session.

So how do I create a restore point, if XP doesn't?

ArtP
October 8th 03, 11:06 AM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:08:23 -0400, John Penta >
wrote:


>So how do I create a restore point, if XP doesn't?


Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Restore System, Create
Restore Point, Next ...

John Penta
October 8th 03, 09:42 PM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:06:21 GMT, ArtP
> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:08:23 -0400, John Penta >
>wrote:
>
>
>>So how do I create a restore point, if XP doesn't?
>
>
>Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Restore System, Create
>Restore Point, Next ...

Thanks!:-) I now feel slightly less stupid and ashamed of myself for
missing the utterly obvious.:-)

Mark Cherry
October 9th 03, 07:51 PM
In ,
ArtP wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:03:16 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> In other words, you need to create a 'restore point' before starting
>> the install procedure?
>
>
> Whenever I update XP it automatically creates a restore point. I find
> that I can back out of individual changes, even when they were done
> during the same update session.

Thanks. I'm learning all of this, after shifting from Win98!

Before I'd reached 'disaster area' point, culminating in returning the box to
the shop for a full XP reinstall, I made numberous program and driver installs
but, on peeking at system restore, only found restore points dating from where
the retailer had done the initial installations.

Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?



--
Happy landings

Mark

~~~~~~~~~~~
MS FS2002 Pro Edition
P4 3.06gHz (800fsb); 512Mb DDR non-ECC; Maxtor 200gb
ATI Radeon 9200 256Mb dual head; 15" FST monitor
all on a MSI 865PE Neo2 m/b
Microsoft SideWinder Precision Pro (USB)
CH Virtual Pilot Pro {*}
Thrustmaster Elite Pedals {*}
Quickshot MasterPilot
CD-RW 52x.....
DVD-ROM
DX9.0 (not 9.0a or 9.0b)

{* via a gampeport->USB adaptor, currently knobbled by XP and reduced to 4
buttons, instead of 14)
Solutions welcome

ArtP
October 9th 03, 08:49 PM
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:51:20 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
> wrote:


>Before I'd reached 'disaster area' point, culminating in returning the box to
>the shop for a full XP reinstall, I made numberous program and driver installs
>but, on peeking at system restore, only found restore points dating from where
>the retailer had done the initial installations.
>
>Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?

Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Restore System, System
Restore Settings

Angus Lepper
October 9th 03, 09:56 PM
There are programs, such as DirectXBuster, which will uninstall DX, then
install from your windows disk (or you can manually reinstalll) I needed to
do this as something weird happended with my Dx9, HTH
"ArtP" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:51:20 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >Before I'd reached 'disaster area' point, culminating in returning the
box to
> >the shop for a full XP reinstall, I made numberous program and driver
installs
> >but, on peeking at system restore, only found restore points dating from
where
> >the retailer had done the initial installations.
> >
> >Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?
>
> Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Restore System, System
> Restore Settings
>

Mark Cherry
October 11th 03, 01:25 AM
In ,
ArtP wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:51:20 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> Before I'd reached 'disaster area' point, culminating in returning
>> the box to the shop for a full XP reinstall, I made numberous
>> program and driver installs but, on peeking at system restore, only
>> found restore points dating from where the retailer had done the
>> initial installations.
>>
>> Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?
>
> Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Restore System, System
> Restore Settings

Thanks, Art. I'll give it a try.


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Happy landings

Mark

Mark Cherry
October 11th 03, 01:28 AM
In ,
Angus Lepper wrote:

> There are programs, such as DirectXBuster, which will uninstall DX,
> then install from your windows disk (or you can manually reinstalll)
> I needed to do this as something weird happended with my Dx9, HTH
> "ArtP" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:51:20 +0100, "Mark Cherry"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Before I'd reached 'disaster area' point, culminating in returning
>>> the box to the shop for a full XP reinstall, I made numberous
>>> program and driver installs but, on peeking at system restore, only
>>> found restore points dating from where the retailer had done the
>>> initial installations.
>>>
>>> Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?
>>
>> Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Restore System, System
>> Restore Settings

Sounds a bit drastic but it obviously worked for you.

I gather that there were some glitches in the first release of DX9, hence 9.0a &
b.

Does anyone know if these are incremental patches or whether 'b' also contains
the fixes present in 'a'?


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Mark

Brett Holcomb
October 11th 03, 02:10 AM
Usually MS patches are not incremental - b should contain everything a had.

Mark Cherry wrote:

> In ,
> Angus Lepper wrote:
>
> I gather that there were some glitches in the first release of DX9, hence
> 9.0a & b.
>
> Does anyone know if these are incremental patches or whether 'b' also
> contains the fixes present in 'a'?
>
>
> --?
> Happy landings
>
> Mark

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