A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and is
trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.

"Jacob" > wrote in message news:TTogf.22089

>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and is
>trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.

Been listening to PDX ATC and some other freqs. Of course the FireDept is
preparing, airplanes south of Hillsboro are being vectored around. PDX
Approach and Departure has been warning aircraft of two media helicopers
hovering north of the airport at 1,000 ft, and Marine Drive is/was closed.
Awhile ago he reported fuel down to 12,000lbs from 26,000.

-c

"gatt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jacob" > wrote in message news:TTogf.22089
>
>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>
> Been listening to PDX ATC and some other freqs. Of course the FireDept is
> preparing, airplanes south of Hillsboro are being vectored around. PDX
> Approach and Departure has been warning aircraft of two media helicopers
> hovering north of the airport at 1,000 ft, and Marine Drive is/was closed.
> Awhile ago he reported fuel down to 12,000lbs from 26,000.
>
> -c
>

Gears down now, hooray for GA! Now the network newsmongers have nothing but
a good ending to report.

----------------------------------------
DW

Probably the single most boring piece of news this year. When will
people learn this is BORING?
-Robert

"Jacob" > wrote in message
et...
>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and is
>trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.

What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?

It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
at every possible opportunity.

"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in message
...
>
> "gatt" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Jacob" > wrote in message news:TTogf.22089
>>
>>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>>
>> Been listening to PDX ATC and some other freqs. Of course the FireDept
>> is preparing, airplanes south of Hillsboro are being vectored around.
>> PDX Approach and Departure has been warning aircraft of two media
>> helicopers hovering north of the airport at 1,000 ft, and Marine Drive
>> is/was closed. Awhile ago he reported fuel down to 12,000lbs from 26,000.

It's a good thing they don't have UHF scanners to listen to military bases.
This stuff happens all the time there but just doesn't get the press cause
they're not broadcasting the comss on VHF.

"gatt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> Gears down now, hooray for GA! Now the network newsmongers have nothing
>> but a good ending to report.
>
> Weird. About ten, fifteen minutes ago he did a flyby of Hillsboro Tower
> and I heard a woman's voice say "Looks like the left gear is retracted but
> the right is still down." Moments later, he landed. You guys might
> enjoy looking at his flight track log...note the 80kt ground speed at
> 10,000 feet, etc.
>
> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N225GV/tracklog
>
> Here's his flight track.
>
> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N225GV
>

Wow, he looks drunk. Great plot and I love that website.

Why pick on CNN? Fox and MSNBC were also doing wall-to-wall inanities. I was
especially impressed with the guy on Fox who found two Airworthiness
Directives agains the Gulfstream V...one in 2001, the other in 2004. But
then they said that this was a maiden flight (they apparently either built
the airplane in Oregon instead of Atlanta or brought it across the country
on a flatbed), so how could either AD apply?

Bob Gardner
"John Doe" > wrote in message
news:Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04...
>
> "Jacob" > wrote in message
> et...
>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>
> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
>
> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
> at every possible opportunity.
>
>
>

"John Doe" > wrote in message
news:Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04...
>
> "Jacob" > wrote in message
> et...
>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>
> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
>
> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
> at every possible opportunity.

Because to the general public its interesting to watch. The scarier the
news, the more coverage you will see.

They build them in Savannah, GA Bob ;)

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
. ..
> Why pick on CNN? Fox and MSNBC were also doing wall-to-wall inanities. I
> was especially impressed with the guy on Fox who found two Airworthiness
> Directives agains the Gulfstream V...one in 2001, the other in 2004. But
> then they said that this was a maiden flight (they apparently either built
> the airplane in Oregon instead of Atlanta or brought it across the country
> on a flatbed), so how could either AD apply?
>
> Bob Gardner
> "John Doe" > wrote in message
> news:Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04...
>>
>> "Jacob" > wrote in message
>> et...
>>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>>
>> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
>>
>> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black
>> eye at every possible opportunity.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

In article <Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04>,
"John Doe" > wrote:

> "Jacob" > wrote in message
> et...
> >A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and is
> >trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>
> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
>
> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
> at every possible opportunity.

CNN wasn't the only one showing this one! Fox, MSNBC, CBS -- all had it
on. I guess the pilot gave it -1G, followed quickly by +3G to dislodge
the gear. The RH main appeared to be jammed against the inner gear door.

I'm glad they were able to get it down and locked.

--
Remve "_" from email to reply to me personally.

W P Dixon wrote:
> They build them in Savannah, GA Bob ;)
>
> Patrick
> student SP
> aircraft structural mech
>
> "Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Why pick on CNN? Fox and MSNBC were also doing wall-to-wall inanities. I
> > was especially impressed with the guy on Fox who found two Airworthiness
> > Directives agains the Gulfstream V...one in 2001, the other in 2004. But
> > then they said that this was a maiden flight (they apparently either built
> > the airplane in Oregon instead of Atlanta or brought it across the country
> > on a flatbed), so how could either AD apply?
> >
> > Bob Gardner
> > "John Doe" > wrote in message
> > news:Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04...
> >>
> >> "Jacob" > wrote in message
> >> et...
> >>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
> >>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
> >>
> >> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
> >>
> >> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black
> >> eye at every possible opportunity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >OK, the reason why the media is so obessed with aviation incidents is because "we all know that man was never meant to fly" The Media is still awe-struck

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
<SNIP>
> CNN wasn't the only one showing this one! Fox, MSNBC, CBS -- all had it
> on. I guess the pilot gave it -1G, followed quickly by +3G to dislodge
> the gear. The RH main appeared to be jammed against the inner gear door.

Nope, according the GulfStream Chief Pilot on MSNBC, there is a 3000#
psi emergency air system that can be used to "blow" the gear down. And
that was done. Apparently, on several of the fly bys, they got good
video of the the gear that was sent to the engineers at GulfStream...

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> In article <Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04>,
> "John Doe" > wrote:
>
> > "Jacob" > wrote in message
> > et...
> > >A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem
and is
> > >trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
> >
> > What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
> >
> > It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black
eye
> > at every possible opportunity.
>
> CNN wasn't the only one showing this one! Fox, MSNBC, CBS -- all had it
> on. I guess the pilot gave it -1G, followed quickly by +3G to dislodge
> the gear. The RH main appeared to be jammed against the inner gear door.

I'm surprised CNN had time between all their commercials to show it.
Throughout the day I randomly turn the TV on and channel surf, and almost
every time I go to CNN there is a commercial running.

My guess is that this was "maiden flight" after delivery or for the
customer. I'm sure the factory or perhaps the dealer has flown it. Of
course I'm just guessing.

"John Doe" > wrote in message
news:Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04...
>
> "Jacob" > wrote in message
> et...
>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>
> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
>
> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
> at every possible opportunity.
>
>
>

For the exact same reason they and others show police chases. On the of
chance that there is a crash at the end.

This is the same reason the media always has a camera pointing at Air Force
1 & Marine 1 when ever they launch.

"John Doe" > wrote in message
news:Z8sgf.14546$om5.950@dukeread04...
>
> "gatt" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> Gears down now, hooray for GA! Now the network newsmongers have nothing
>>> but a good ending to report.
>>
>> Weird. About ten, fifteen minutes ago he did a flyby of Hillsboro Tower
>> and I heard a woman's voice say "Looks like the left gear is retracted
>> but the right is still down." Moments later, he landed. You guys
>> might enjoy looking at his flight track log...note the 80kt ground speed
>> at 10,000 feet, etc.
>>
>> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N225GV/tracklog
>>
>> Here's his flight track.
>>
>> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N225GV
>>
>
> Wow, he looks drunk. Great plot and I love that website.
>
>

It is a great site. I love the fact that I know that they can fix a GV
pretty damn quick.

22-Nov-2005 GLF5/Q Lester B Pearson Int'l [CYYZ] Akron Canton Regional
[KCAK] 03:20PM 04:02PM Scheduled

Now it turns out that Nike bought the Gulfstream used...it is three years
old and probably subject to the ADs. None of the "maiden flight" screamers
noted this. The lady Gulfstream V instructor who took part on a couple of
channels brought up factory flights and the delivery flight when "maiden"
was mentioned, so she didn't know either.

Bob Gardner

"Flyingmonk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> My guess is that this was "maiden flight" after delivery or for the
> customer. I'm sure the factory or perhaps the dealer has flown it. Of
> course I'm just guessing.
>

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message

> Probably the single most boring piece of news this year. When will
> people learn this is BORING?

*shrug* So don't read it then.

As for me, I live and work within site of approaching and departing PDX
traffic and know people who work at the Nike headquarters, so it was pretty
interesting.

-c

"John Doe" > wrote in message news:Y8sgf.14544

> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?

It's suspenseful and draws a lot more viewers than congressional coverage.

> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
> at every possible opportunity.

That's like saying they're deliberately trying to give Tacoma a black eye
for covering the mall shooting there, or that they were giving Ford or the
California Highway Department a black eye during the OJ Simpson chase.
Maybe they were trying to give Nike a black eye. Secretely, they have it
out for Gulfstream?

All I saw on the news last night was the experts stating how safe the
aircraft was and explaining to lay viewers how the problem was fixed, how
well the pilot was trained and prepared for these types of situations and
how the manufacturer, crew, controllers etc cooperated during the problem to
resolve it. Gee...that's pretty harsh.

I wouldn't call that giving GA a black eye, I'd call it giving GA a chance
to pat itself on the back on worldwide television.

-c

"John Doe" > wrote in message news:Y8sgf.14545

> It's a good thing they don't have UHF scanners to listen to military
> bases. This stuff happens all the time there but just doesn't get the
> press cause they're not broadcasting the comss on VHF.

A big clue is when the fire department shuts down the roads along the
airport runway and starts staging their equipment for rapid deployment.

Although, the ATC chatter was truly fascinating. I heard the tower reporting
that the problem hadn't been fixed, at one point the pilot said "it didn't
work, we need to try something different", heard him cleared for another
flyby and, later, 'We're bringing the engine back up.' (Self: "Engine?!")

Followed by "Looks good. You're clear for the visual approach at your
discretion."
-c

"John Doe" > wrote in message
news:Y8sgf.14544$om5.3704@dukeread04...
>
> "Jacob" > wrote in message
> et...
>>A gulfstream jet carrying Nike executives has a landing gear problem and
>>is trying to burn fuel to land at Hillsboro, Oregon airport. On CNN.
>
> What is the motive behind CNN's coverage of aviation incidents?
>
> It's almost like they are deliberately trying to give aviation a black eye
> at every possible opportunity.
>


Atleast they didn't put a black X over the plane like they did Cheney!

-----------------------------------
DW

>Now it turns out that Nike bought the Gulfstream used...it is three years
>old and probably subject to the ADs.

How 'bout that huh?

"Flyingmonk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> >Now it turns out that Nike bought the Gulfstream used...it is three years
>>old and probably subject to the ADs.
>
> How 'bout that huh?


You would think that with half the planet wearing his shoes that Phil Knight
would not have to stoop to buying a "used" jet.

Allen

> You would think that with half the planet wearing his shoes that Phil Knight
> would not have to stoop to buying a "used" jet.

Not used. Flight tested.

Jose
--
He who laughs, lasts.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

>You would think that with half the planet wearing his shoes that Phil Knight
>would not have to stoop to buying a "used" jet.

Probably for availability reasons (not wanting to wait for delivery).
Maybe the one that Phill actually uses was bought NEW and this one was
for his subordinates, after all he wasn't on this particular flight.