Hello !
I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
"The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
In the book, i came across the term
"to shoot an aproach"

What does that mean ?
Can anybody please explain ?



keep the greasy side down,

Henning Dammann-Emden
Bremen/Germany

> I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
> "The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
> In the book, i came across the term
> "to shoot an aproach"
>
> What does that mean ?
> Can anybody please explain ?

Sometimes pilots approaching an airport using a standard instrument
procedure botch the approach, and when they get on the ground, will
blame the procedure author by shooting off his mouth. If the approach
is withdrawn because of this, it's called "Shooting the approach".

Seriously, it's just slang for making an approach to an airport, under
actual or simulated instrument conditions, using only the cockpit
instruments for navigation and control. The method of approaching an
airport under these conditions is carefully planned in advance and
published (these are called "Standard instrument approach procedures"),
and following the procedure will ensure a successful approach to the runway.

Jose
--
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Henning DE wrote:
> Hello !
> I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
> "The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
> In the book, i came across the term
> "to shoot an aproach"
>
> What does that mean ?
> Can anybody please explain ?

Hi Henning,

Yes, an approach is an IFR procedure for descending to within a few hundred feet
of the runway, so that a landing can be made visually.

To "shoot" an approach is to perform the approach procedure.

Dave

It is just a phrase. It means fly an approach. I always
think that if you shoot and approach you should also clean
and eat it.

It is like shooting the rapids, which just means taking a
canoe, kayak or boat down a turbulent river.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
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"Henning DE" > wrote in message
...
| Hello !
| I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
| "The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
| In the book, i came across the term
| "to shoot an aproach"
|
| What does that mean ?
| Can anybody please explain ?
|
|
|
| keep the greasy side down,
|
| Henning Dammann-Emden
| Bremen/Germany
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
> It is just a phrase. It means fly an approach. I always
> think that if you shoot and approach you should also clean
> and eat it.
>
> It is like shooting the rapids, which just means taking a
> canoe, kayak or boat down a turbulent river.
>
>
How about shooting a game of pool?

In article <em_if.30506$4l5.18597@dukeread05>,
"Jim Macklin" > wrote:

> It is just a phrase. It means fly an approach. I always
> think that if you shoot and approach you should also clean
> and eat it.
>
> It is like shooting the rapids, which just means taking a
> canoe, kayak or boat down a turbulent river.
>
>
> --
> James H. Macklin
> ATP,CFI,A&P
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
> "Henning DE" > wrote in message
> ...
> | Hello !
> | I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
> | "The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
> | In the book, i came across the term
> | "to shoot an aproach"
> |
> | What does that mean ?
> | Can anybody please explain ?

Possible origin is the Instrument Landing System.
When flown correctly the vertical and horizontal guidance indicators are
centered in the face of the display. These crossed indicators have the
appearance of the crosshairs of a telescopic sight.
Hence, you shoot the approach. Keeping the crosshairs centered generally
assures that you will hit what you are aiming for... the runway.

My bad. I'll provide an explanation in the next edition.

Bob Gardner

"Henning DE" > wrote in message
...
> Hello !
> I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
> "The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
> In the book, i came across the term
> "to shoot an aproach"
>
> What does that mean ?
> Can anybody please explain ?
>
>
>
> keep the greasy side down,
>
> Henning Dammann-Emden
> Bremen/Germany
>
>

How about sitting around on a Sunday BBQ and shooting the **** with
some good friends?

Usenet just doesn't get any better than that!

Bob Gardner wrote:
> My bad. I'll provide an explanation in the next edition.
>
> Bob Gardner
>
> "Henning DE" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Hello !
>>I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
>>"The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
>>In the book, i came across the term
>>"to shoot an aproach"
>>
>>What does that mean ?
>>Can anybody please explain ?
>>
>>
>>
>>keep the greasy side down,
>>
>>Henning Dammann-Emden
>>Bremen/Germany
>>
>>
>
>
>

three-eight-hotel wrote:

> How about sitting around on a Sunday BBQ and shooting the **** with
> some good friends?

It's very similar to shooting groundhogs.


-m
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## Mark T. Dame >
## VP, Product Development
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Never mind Bob.
It is still a good book.
Good value for money and easy to understand.
We have different airspace and authorities here,
but one can still draw a lot of valuable informations from your book.

Regards,

Henning Dammann-Emden
Bremen/Germany

"Bob Gardner" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> My bad. I'll provide an explanation in the next edition.
>
> Bob Gardner
>
> "Henning DE" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hello !
>> I am currently reading a book about IFR flying.
>> "The complete advanced pilot" by Bob Gardner.
>> In the book, i came across the term
>> "to shoot an aproach"
>>
>> What does that mean ?
>> Can anybody please explain ?
>>
>>
>>
>> keep the greasy side down,
>>
>> Henning Dammann-Emden
>> Bremen/Germany
>>
>>
>
>

Henning Dammann-Emden asked what "shoot an approach" means and John Smith
answered, "Possible origin is the Instrument Landing System. When flown
correctly the vertical and horizontal guidance indicators are centered in
the face of the display. These crossed indicators have the appearance of the
crosshairs of a telescopic sight. Hence, you shoot the approach. Keeping the
crosshairs centered generally assures that you will hit what you are aiming
for... the runway."

Good explanation, John! I've heard the expression for years and always
wondered about its origin, but never thought to ask.

Thanks,

Jon

Jed had Granny cook the billyard eggs.



> wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > It is just a phrase. It means fly an approach. I
always
| > think that if you shoot and approach you should also
clean
| > and eat it.
| >
| > It is like shooting the rapids, which just means taking
a
| > canoe, kayak or boat down a turbulent river.
| >
| >
| How about shooting a game of pool?

Really do shoot groundhogs with a rifle. But shooting the
bull is talking.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Mark T. Dame" > wrote in message
...
| three-eight-hotel wrote:
|
| > How about sitting around on a Sunday BBQ and shooting
the **** with
| > some good friends?
|
| It's very similar to shooting groundhogs.
|
|
| -m
| --
| ## Mark T. Dame >
| ## VP, Product Development
| ## MFM Software, Inc. (http://www.mfm.com/)
| "This message represents the official view of the voices
in my head"
| -- Bill Cole (wkc at mail-abuse.org)

"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
news:1133276380.604607@sj-nntpcache-3...
> Henning DE wrote:
> Hi Henning,
>
> Yes, an approach is an IFR procedure for descending to within a few
> hundred feet of the runway, so that a landing can be made visually.
>
> To "shoot" an approach is to perform the approach procedure.

But you only do it when it's in season.

Matt B.
--
"The Pessimist complains about the wind,
the Optimist hopes it will change,
the Realist adjusts the sails."

"three-eight-hotel" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> How about sitting around on a Sunday BBQ and shooting the **** with
> some good friends?
>

"Some people say "shoot", but you can't fool me; 'Shoot' is "****" with two
O's" - George Carlin

Matt B.
--
POLITICS, n.
A strife of interests masquerading as
a contest of principles.
The conduct of public affairs for private
advantage. - Ambrose Bierce

Etymology of "shooting an approach".
Fighter pilots might shoot up a column, shoot at a tank, shoot an enemy
airplane... or
shoot an approach.

> Possible origin is the Instrument Landing System.
> When flown correctly the vertical and horizontal guidance indicators are
> centered in the face of the display. These crossed indicators have the
> appearance of the crosshairs of a telescopic sight.
> Hence, you shoot the approach. Keeping the crosshairs centered generally
> assures that you will hit what you are aiming for... the runway.

Hmmm...I always thought that when you guide an object in some way down a
narrow corridor of space to a specific place to attain a goal or objective
that that was "shooting". i.e. shooting pool, shooting some hoops, shoot a
goal in hockey. Now, I just wonder why they don't call it "Shooting a
strike" (in bowling).

Kobra

On 12/1/2005 13:49, Kobra wrote:

>> Possible origin is the Instrument Landing System.
>> When flown correctly the vertical and horizontal guidance indicators are
>> centered in the face of the display. These crossed indicators have the
>> appearance of the crosshairs of a telescopic sight.
>> Hence, you shoot the approach. Keeping the crosshairs centered generally
>> assures that you will hit what you are aiming for... the runway.
>
> Hmmm...I always thought that when you guide an object in some way down a
> narrow corridor of space to a specific place to attain a goal or objective
> that that was "shooting". i.e. shooting pool, shooting some hoops, shoot a
> goal in hockey. Now, I just wonder why they don't call it "Shooting a
> strike" (in bowling).

Perhaps because most people don't really guide it? ;-)

>
> Kobra
>
>


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA

You roll a strike.


"Mark Hansen" > wrote in message
...
| On 12/1/2005 13:49, Kobra wrote:
|
| >> Possible origin is the Instrument Landing System.
| >> When flown correctly the vertical and horizontal
guidance indicators are
| >> centered in the face of the display. These crossed
indicators have the
| >> appearance of the crosshairs of a telescopic sight.
| >> Hence, you shoot the approach. Keeping the crosshairs
centered generally
| >> assures that you will hit what you are aiming for...
the runway.
| >
| > Hmmm...I always thought that when you guide an object in
some way down a
| > narrow corridor of space to a specific place to attain a
goal or objective
| > that that was "shooting". i.e. shooting pool, shooting
some hoops, shoot a
| > goal in hockey. Now, I just wonder why they don't call
it "Shooting a
| > strike" (in bowling).
|
| Perhaps because most people don't really guide it? ;-)
|
| >
| > Kobra
| >
| >
|
|
| --
| Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
| Sacramento, CA

Kobra wrote:
>>Possible origin is the Instrument Landing System.
>>When flown correctly the vertical and horizontal guidance indicators are
>>centered in the face of the display. These crossed indicators have the
>>appearance of the crosshairs of a telescopic sight.
>>Hence, you shoot the approach. Keeping the crosshairs centered generally
>>assures that you will hit what you are aiming for... the runway.
>
>
> Hmmm...I always thought that when you guide an object in some way down a
> narrow corridor of space to a specific place to attain a goal or objective
> that that was "shooting". i.e. shooting pool, shooting some hoops, shoot a
> goal in hockey. Now, I just wonder why they don't call it "Shooting a
> strike" (in bowling).

I've often wondered if the origin wasn't in fact "chuting" rather than
"shooting" as it seems to fit the situations of use better.

Matt