The avionics on a Piper Turbo Arrow (PA28RT201T) are approaching
retirement age.

Does anybody know if there's a glass panel upgrade (a la G1000)
for the Turbo Arrow? Any STC's needed?

--

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

Right now your only option is the Chelton system. The G1000 and the Avidyne
PFDs do not have any STCs for production aircraft.

You can, of course, convert the Arrow to an experimental certificate...

Marco

"Tauno Voipio" > wrote in message
...
> The avionics on a Piper Turbo Arrow (PA28RT201T) are approaching
> retirement age.
>
> Does anybody know if there's a glass panel upgrade (a la G1000)
> for the Turbo Arrow? Any STC's needed?
>
> --
>
> Tauno Voipio
> tauno voipio (at) iki fi



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"Marco Leon" <mmleon(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
...
> Right now your only option is the Chelton system. The G1000 and the
> Avidyne
> PFDs do not have any STCs for production aircraft.

Do you mean "older" production aircraft??
http://www.avidyne.com/oems/piper.shtm

>
> You can, of course, convert the Arrow to an experimental certificate...
>
> Marco
>

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Do you mean "older" production aircraft??
> http://www.avidyne.com/oems/piper.shtm
>
Yes, but technically I'm still accurate because even the "new" aircraft will
not have an STC. One can't put an Avidyne into a 2005 that had steam gauges
as original equipment.

Marco




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"Marco Leon" <mmleon(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
...
> Right now your only option is the Chelton system. The G1000 and the
Avidyne
> PFDs do not have any STCs for production aircraft.
>
> You can, of course, convert the Arrow to an experimental certificate...
>
> Marco


And how would you go about converting it to an experimental certificate? I
asked how to do it before & people said cannot be done or very hard to do.
There is a nice twin I would like to put on an experimental certificate.

Steven L. Rhine
CP ASEL & AMEL Instrument Airplane
CFI (Student)

NW_PILOT wrote:
> "Marco Leon" <mmleon(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Right now your only option is the Chelton system. The G1000 and the
>
> Avidyne
>
>>PFDs do not have any STCs for production aircraft.
>>
>>You can, of course, convert the Arrow to an experimental certificate...
>>
>>Marco
>
>
>
> And how would you go about converting it to an experimental certificate? I
> asked how to do it before & people said cannot be done or very hard to do.
> There is a nice twin I would like to put on an experimental certificate.
>
> Steven L. Rhine
> CP ASEL & AMEL Instrument Airplane
> CFI (Student)

Thank you.

At least here (Finland) it will void the capability
to fly IFR, and what good is the IFR upgrade without
permission to fly IFR?

--

Tauno Voipio, CPL(A) ME-IR
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
>
> And how would you go about converting it to an experimental certificate? I
> asked how to do it before & people said cannot be done or very hard to do.
> There is a nice twin I would like to put on an experimental certificate.
>
> Steven L. Rhine
> CP ASEL & AMEL Instrument Airplane

I read that thread Steven and if I remember correctly, the only way you can
put a certified aircraft on an experimental certificate would be for
purposes of research and development. It would also require yearly
justifications on why it can remain on that certificate.

Marco



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I would guess that the cost of installing a full Chelton system in an
older Arrow would exceed the value of the airplane. Let me know when
you have it done, though - there's about a 50% return on avionics
upgrades at time of resale so sounds like a great deal for the next
owner... :-)

Paul kgyy wrote:
> I would guess that the cost of installing a full Chelton system in an
> older Arrow would exceed the value of the airplane. Let me know when
> you have it done, though - there's about a 50% return on avionics
> upgrades at time of resale so sounds like a great deal for the next
> owner... :-)
>

Have not decided yet what to do - just charting
the terrain ...

Maybe I just rebuild the radio stack and let the
rest be just a dream.

--

Tauno Voipio (PA28RT201T, OH-PYM)
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

On 10-Mar-2006, "Paul kgyy" > wrote:

> I would guess that the cost of installing a full Chelton system in an
> older Arrow would exceed the value of the airplane.


A good PA28RT-201T (Turbo Arrow IV) with mid-time engine is probably worth
about $90K or more these days. Not sure what the full Chelton treatment
runs, but I suspect it's well below $45K. At any rate, if you are planning
to keep the airplane for a number of years the resale value of your avionics
investment is not a big deal. Get what you want and can afford.

-Elliott Drucker