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Bob Gardner
June 25th 06, 09:03 PM
Please understand that I am a geezer, and getting crotchety in my old age.

I have Summit Aviation's CD-ROM that includes just about every piece of
paper issued by the FAA...regulations, AIM, PTS, ACs, etc etc etc. I have
searched this resource for two words: flair and flair. My Webster's Ninth
had already told me that "flair" meant "a skill or ability to appreciate or
make good use of something," as in "a flair for the dramatic," or "a
uniquely attractive quality," as in "fashionable dresses with a flair all
their own." I got nine hits from the search engine; the Glider Pilot's
Handbook uses both spellings in succeeding paragraphs, believe it or not.
The Sport Pilot PTS for powered parachutes also uses flair. The rest of the
hits were in reports of incidents or maintenance written by pilots or
mechanics where mis-spellings can be kind of forgiving.

I got 427 hits on "flare," including Parts 61, 91, and 121. Some of the
hits were in the context of flare pots to outline landing surfaces or
flaring the end of a tube such as a fuel line, but most dealt with the
process of landing.

To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
"flair" when discussing landings.

Thanks.

Bob Gardner

June 25th 06, 09:22 PM
Bob Gardner wrote:
> I have
> searched this resource for two words: flair and flair.

Hey! You did it too.

> please stop using the word
> "flair" when discussing landings.

How about this:
So if one is good at smooth landings, then that person has a flair for
the flare?

:-)

I do enjoy your books, though, and have recommended them to many
people. (BTW, did you search through them, just in case?)

Peter

Matt Whiting
June 25th 06, 09:43 PM
Bob Gardner wrote:
> Please understand that I am a geezer, and getting crotchety in my old age.
>
> I have Summit Aviation's CD-ROM that includes just about every piece of
> paper issued by the FAA...regulations, AIM, PTS, ACs, etc etc etc. I have
> searched this resource for two words: flair and flair. My Webster's Ninth
^^^^^ ^^^^^
Bob, flair and flair look the same to me. :-) I do believe that most
times I flare with flair, but that is just my opinion.

Matt

Bob Gardner
June 25th 06, 10:01 PM
It's hot in Seattle today, and my brain is not used to it.

Bob

> wrote in message
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>
> Bob Gardner wrote:
>> I have
>> searched this resource for two words: flair and flair.
>
> Hey! You did it too.
>
>> please stop using the word
>> "flair" when discussing landings.
>
> How about this:
> So if one is good at smooth landings, then that person has a flair for
> the flare?
>
> :-)
>
> I do enjoy your books, though, and have recommended them to many
> people. (BTW, did you search through them, just in case?)
>
> Peter
>

Jim Macklin
June 26th 06, 01:10 AM
I get more upset about the misuse of the word prostrate when
they mean prostate.




"Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
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| It's hot in Seattle today, and my brain is not used to it.
|
| Bob
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| > wrote in message
|
oups.com...
| >
| > Bob Gardner wrote:
| >> I have
| >> searched this resource for two words: flair and flair.
| >
| > Hey! You did it too.
| >
| >> please stop using the word
| >> "flair" when discussing landings.
| >
| > How about this:
| > So if one is good at smooth landings, then that person
has a flair for
| > the flare?
| >
| > :-)
| >
| > I do enjoy your books, though, and have recommended them
to many
| > people. (BTW, did you search through them, just in
case?)
| >
| > Peter
| >
|
|

Wizard of Draws
June 26th 06, 02:04 AM
On 6/25/06 4:03 PM, in article ,
"Bob Gardner" > wrote:
>
> To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
> "flair" when discussing landings.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob Gardner
>

Not a problem, I flare with savoir-faire. And panache. Lots of panache.
--
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Jose
June 26th 06, 02:37 AM
> Not a problem, I flare with savoir-faire. And panache. Lots of panache.

I used to flare with panache, but the syrup got all over the place.

Jose
--
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vincent p. norris
June 26th 06, 03:12 AM
>To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
>"flair" when discussing landings.

I share your annoyance at such boo-boos, but I can't resist asking if
you're bedridden, or perhaps you mean "declining" years. ((:-))

Probably as ancient as you, I "decline" to do a number of things I
used to do. And now I can get away with it!

vince norris

Wizard of Draws
June 26th 06, 03:56 AM
On 6/25/06 9:37 PM, in article
, "Jose"
> wrote:

>> Not a problem, I flare with savoir-faire. And panache. Lots of panache.
>
> I used to flare with panache, but the syrup got all over the place.
>
> Jose

It sounds as if you were waffling about landing.
--
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Jose
June 26th 06, 04:22 AM
>>>Not a problem, I flare with savoir-faire. And panache. Lots of panache.
>> I used to flare with panache, but the syrup got all over the place.
> It sounds as if you were waffling about landing.

Nah, I was just buttering him up.

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Matt Barrow
June 26th 06, 01:45 PM
"Wizard of Draws" > wrote in
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> On 6/25/06 4:03 PM, in article
> ,
> "Bob Gardner" > wrote:
>>
>> To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
>> "flair" when discussing landings.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob Gardner
>>
>
> Not a problem, I flare with savoir-faire. And panache. Lots of panache.

I like pancakes, too!

Dave Butler
June 26th 06, 01:56 PM
Bob Gardner wrote:

> To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
> "flair" when discussing landings.

I always fear loosing an engine during the flair.

Everett M. Greene
June 26th 06, 04:25 PM
"Bob Gardner" > writes:
> It's hot in Seattle today, and my brain is not used to it.

You people don't know hot. It was 110+ here yesterday.

John Clonts
June 26th 06, 04:27 PM
Dave Butler wrote:
> Bob Gardner wrote:
>
> > To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
> > "flair" when discussing landings.
>
> I always fear loosing an engine during the flair.

If you loose your engine during your flair, just pull back harder on
your yolk, or you will pancake your landing gear!

Dave Butler
June 26th 06, 04:30 PM
John Clonts wrote:
> Dave Butler wrote:
>
>>Bob Gardner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
>>>"flair" when discussing landings.
>>
>>I always fear loosing an engine during the flair.
>
>
> If you loose your engine during your flair, just pull back harder on
> your yolk, or you will pancake your landing gear!

.... probably damage your breaks.

Brengsek!
June 26th 06, 04:49 PM
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:25:03 PST,
(Everett M. Greene) wrote:

>> It's hot in Seattle today, and my brain is not used to it.
>You people don't know hot. It was 110+ here yesterday.

Wow, that's hot. In my country, water boils at 100 degrees ;-)

--
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Jon Woellhaf
June 26th 06, 05:01 PM
Shouldn't that be "... you're yolk ... ?"

"John Clonts" > wrote in message
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>
> Dave Butler wrote:
>> Bob Gardner wrote:
>>
>> > To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
>> > "flair" when discussing landings.
>>
>> I always fear loosing an engine during the flair.
>
> If you loose your engine during your flair, just pull back harder on
> your yolk, or you will pancake your landing gear!
>

Bob Gardner
June 26th 06, 05:08 PM
I grew up in the Chicago area and have lived on the Gulf Coast, in Norfolk,
Washington DC and Okinawa. I know what hot is, and I'm delighted to consider
90 in this area as headline-making.

Bob Gardner

"Everett M. Greene" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Bob Gardner" > writes:
>> It's hot in Seattle today, and my brain is not used to it.
>
> You people don't know hot. It was 110+ here yesterday.

Bob Moore
June 26th 06, 05:22 PM
Bob Gardner wrote
> I grew up in the Chicago area and have lived on the Gulf Coast, in
> Norfolk, Washington DC and Okinawa. I know what hot is, and I'm
> delighted to consider 90 in this area as headline-making.

Hmmm...I spent 6 months flying P-3s out of Naha, Okinawa...were
you in the Navy/Marines?

Bob Moore

Bob Gardner
June 26th 06, 07:36 PM
I "built" (was first CO of) the USCG loran station at Gesashi on the north
end of the island 1963-64, and belonged to the Kadena Flying Club. Lived
with the Marines (Camp Schwab) while the station was under construction.

Bob

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 122...
> Bob Gardner wrote
>> I grew up in the Chicago area and have lived on the Gulf Coast, in
>> Norfolk, Washington DC and Okinawa. I know what hot is, and I'm
>> delighted to consider 90 in this area as headline-making.
>
> Hmmm...I spent 6 months flying P-3s out of Naha, Okinawa...were
> you in the Navy/Marines?
>
> Bob Moore

Bob Moore
June 26th 06, 08:05 PM
Bob Gardner wrote
> I "built" (was first CO of) the USCG loran station at Gesashi on the
> north end of the island 1963-64, and belonged to the Kadena Flying
> Club. Lived with the Marines (Camp Schwab) while the station was under
> construction.

That would have been LORAN A....right? :-)
We were blessed with coupled INS/DOPPLER, quite a change from the LORAN A
sets that we had in the P-2s.

Bob

Bob Gardner
June 27th 06, 01:21 AM
It was a loran C station. In 1959-60 I had done the same thing on St. Paul
Island in the Pribilofs...that one was a combined loran A/C station.

Bob

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
> Bob Gardner wrote
>> I "built" (was first CO of) the USCG loran station at Gesashi on the
>> north end of the island 1963-64, and belonged to the Kadena Flying
>> Club. Lived with the Marines (Camp Schwab) while the station was under
>> construction.
>
> That would have been LORAN A....right? :-)
> We were blessed with coupled INS/DOPPLER, quite a change from the LORAN A
> sets that we had in the P-2s.
>
> Bob

Bob Moore
June 27th 06, 01:25 AM
Bob Gardner wrote
> It was a loran C station. In 1959-60 I had done the same thing on St.
> Paul Island in the Pribilofs...that one was a combined loran A/C
> station.

Interesting....I didn't think that "C" went that far back.

Bob

Bob Gardner
June 27th 06, 05:36 PM
When I was in the communications division at USCG HQ in 1957-58, we handled
tons of messages about loran-C installations from Europe and the Middle
East. I remember Wheelus AFB in Libya specifically, but there were lots of
others.

Bob Gardner

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
> Bob Gardner wrote
>> It was a loran C station. In 1959-60 I had done the same thing on St.
>> Paul Island in the Pribilofs...that one was a combined loran A/C
>> station.
>
> Interesting....I didn't think that "C" went that far back.
>
> Bob

Gus Cabre
June 27th 06, 09:16 PM
Or when they say "criminality" instead of "crime" .

Gus
EGYC
"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
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>I get more upset about the misuse of the word prostrate when
> they mean prostate.
>
>
>
>
> "Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
> . ..
> | It's hot in Seattle today, and my brain is not used to it.
> |
> | Bob
> |
> | > wrote in message
> |
> oups.com...
> | >
> | > Bob Gardner wrote:
> | >> I have
> | >> searched this resource for two words: flair and flair.
> | >
> | > Hey! You did it too.
> | >
> | >> please stop using the word
> | >> "flair" when discussing landings.
> | >
> | > How about this:
> | > So if one is good at smooth landings, then that person
> has a flair for
> | > the flare?
> | >
> | > :-)
> | >
> | > I do enjoy your books, though, and have recommended them
> to many
> | > people. (BTW, did you search through them, just in
> case?)
> | >
> | > Peter
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

July 4th 06, 06:24 AM
The worst is "few" when actually "a few" is intended. Nothing turns the
meaning on its head more :)

Ramapriya


Jim Macklin wrote:
> I get more upset about the misuse of the word prostrate when
> they mean prostate.

Roger[_2_]
July 5th 06, 08:09 AM
On 3 Jul 2006 22:24:10 -0700, wrote:

>The worst is "few" when actually "a few" is intended. Nothing turns the
>meaning on its head more :)

I thought that was what the old horse said when asked if he'd like
some oats. The horse replied, "A few."

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>Ramapriya
>
>
>Jim Macklin wrote:
>> I get more upset about the misuse of the word prostrate when
>> they mean prostate.

July 26th 06, 03:21 PM
John Clonts wrote:
> Dave Butler wrote:
> > Bob Gardner wrote:
> >
> > > To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
> > > "flair" when discussing landings.
> >
*** Proper flair involves good use of the yolk and rudder peddles. And
if you do it
right, you get to taxi back to your hanger :).

- Jerry Kaidor

Robert Chambers
July 26th 06, 11:11 PM
wrote:
> John Clonts wrote:
>
>>Dave Butler wrote:
>>
>>>Bob Gardner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To make my reclining years more comfortable, please stop using the word
>>>>"flair" when discussing landings.
>>>
> *** Proper flair involves good use of the yolk and rudder peddles. And
> if you do it
> right, you get to taxi back to your hanger :).
>
> - Jerry Kaidor
>
Yolk? are we making ommeletes? :) and who is selling a rudder?

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