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August 23rd 06, 07:57 PM
I am thinking about relocating from Illinois to Ohio with my plane.
Are there any suprises I need to be aware of like hidden taxes, state
fees, etc regarding aircraft ownership?

Bob

john smith
August 23rd 06, 08:12 PM
In article om>,
wrote:

> I am thinking about relocating from Illinois to Ohio with my plane.
> Are there any suprises I need to be aware of like hidden taxes, state
> fees, etc regarding aircraft ownership?

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/aviation/

Aircraft



Attention Ohio Aircraft Owners:

Earlier this year the Ohio 126th General Assembly passed the FY
2006-2007 General Revenue Budget Bill. That legislation changed the
aircraft registration license tax. The annual aircraft registration
license tax is now $15 for gliders and balloons and $15 per seat for all
other aircraft based on the manufacturer's maximum listed seating
capacity. The tax is in lieu of all other taxes on or with respect to
ownership of aircraft.

The legislation directed that aircraft registration license taxes are to
be deposited in the newly created Airport Assistance Fund for airport
maintenance and capital improvements to publicly owned airports.

The calendar year 2006 aircraft registration license tax revenues are
expected to fund three or four paving and obstruction removal projects
at county airports in Ohio. For a list of ongoing airport improvements
as well as other information about aviation in Ohio, check out our
website at www.dot.state.oh.us/aviation.

Yours in Aviation,

James Bryant, Administrator

ODOT Office of Aviation



Ohio Aircraft Registration

If you own an aircraft that is based in Ohio, regardless of flying
condition, it must be registered with the Ohio Office of Aviation
annually. Aircraft registration forms can be obtained below or from
your local airport manager or by calling the Ohio Office of Aviation,
Aircraft Registration coordinator, Carol Johnson, at (614) 387-2354.

2006 Ohio Aircraft Registration - Registration Form and Instructions

Ohio Laws on Aeronautics - Ohio Revised Code (ORC 4561)

Roy N5804F[_1_]
August 25th 06, 01:55 AM
The Ohio state tax is $15 per aircraft seat per year, based on makers
published # of seats for your aircraft.
As far as I know there are no other taxes that apply to aircraft in Ohio.
Where would you be based ?

--
Roy
Piper Archer N5804F
Beloit, North East OH


> wrote in message
ups.com...
>I am thinking about relocating from Illinois to Ohio with my plane.
> Are there any suprises I need to be aware of like hidden taxes, state
> fees, etc regarding aircraft ownership?
>
> Bob
>

Guy Byars
August 30th 06, 01:42 AM
There *IS* a state sales tax on your plane... roughly 6%. If you can
document you already paid it elsewhere, then you get a pass on that.

Guy

"Roy N5804F" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> The Ohio state tax is $15 per aircraft seat per year, based on makers
> published # of seats for your aircraft.
> As far as I know there are no other taxes that apply to aircraft in Ohio.
> Where would you be based ?
>
> --
> Roy
> Piper Archer N5804F
> Beloit, North East OH
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >I am thinking about relocating from Illinois to Ohio with my plane.
> > Are there any suprises I need to be aware of like hidden taxes, state
> > fees, etc regarding aircraft ownership?
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
>

September 5th 06, 07:44 PM
> Where would you be based ?
>
I might be at KCGF (Cuyahoga County) or LNN (Lost Nation, Willoughby).
LNN has no space right now. Anyone know much about Concord Air Park?

Bob

TxSrv
September 5th 06, 08:16 PM
wrote:
>> Where would you be based ?
>>
> I might be at KCGF (Cuyahoga County) or LNN (Lost Nation, Willoughby).
> LNN has no space right now. Anyone know much about Concord Air Park?
>

Concord Airpark is a quiet place, no services except for
self-serve fuel on the honor system. Narrow rwy is short
depending upon airplane and pilot skill. Due to rather tall
trees one end, even then folks land to the south even if a modest
tailwind. There is decent community hangar space available at a
good price. But you open/close the big doors yourself if need
be. Helped someone do that once; never again at my age now.

September 5th 06, 10:36 PM
TxSrv,
Thanks. I have not accepted the position up there yet. Last offewr
was good but not enough to cover the higher taxes and living cost. I
am supposed to hear something this week. Of course a home for my
Bonanza is a given. I am based at a great place now an a very
affordable hangar rent. NE ohio is quite a sticker shock, from every
aspect.

Bob


> Concord Airpark is a quiet place, no services except for
> self-serve fuel on the honor system.

~^ beancounter ~^
September 5th 06, 11:32 PM
"self-serve fuel on the honor system"

whats that? and how does it work?





TxSrv wrote:
> wrote:
> >> Where would you be based ?
> >>
> > I might be at KCGF (Cuyahoga County) or LNN (Lost Nation, Willoughby).
> > LNN has no space right now. Anyone know much about Concord Air Park?
> >
>
> Concord Airpark is a quiet place, no services except for
> self-serve fuel on the honor system. Narrow rwy is short
> depending upon airplane and pilot skill. Due to rather tall
> trees one end, even then folks land to the south even if a modest
> tailwind. There is decent community hangar space available at a
> good price. But you open/close the big doors yourself if need
> be. Helped someone do that once; never again at my age now.

TxSrv
September 6th 06, 12:32 AM
wrote:
> TxSrv,
> Thanks. I have not accepted the position up there yet. Last offer
> was good but not enough to cover the higher taxes and living cost....
> NE Ohio is quite a sticker shock, from every aspect.

Excuse me?? This is "the rust" belt up here, ya' know. Where
all is a Bonanza owner comin' from where there'll be sticker
shock, re COL other big midwest cities. Just kidding, but
there's other intangibles here. Freeways to get to work are
still reasonably uncongested, more so NE, E, and SE of Cleveland.
Fellow drivers are reasonably courteous, if not more so than
avg. Retail workers are rather friendly if you engage a little
bit. Schools are variable but good in the burbs. Crime rates
low; overall taxes avg for big metro areas.

As to flying, the sight of Lake Erie, post-frontal passage in
viz-20 partial clouds/sun is a sight for sore eyes no matter how
long you've been flying! But if you do IFR, and need the Bo for
"must trips," you learn how to evaluate WX forecasts to deal with
it. Have an out above and below.

If the concern is the costs/intangibles of hangaring one's
Bonanza, I do caution. Cuyahoga County (CGF) has long gone
really upscale with bizjets. Lost Nation (LNN) may/may not have
[affordable] community hangar space, but the FBO managing that
operation [my field in tie-down] I'd personally elect not. And
anybody who intends to fly hard IFR out of Concord Airpark needs
counseling. By whom, I really don't know, but a cool place
otherwise. The elderly lady who owns the place is still an
active CFI, an elected Concord Township Trustee, and she
effectively runs an aviation nonprofit, International Womens Air
& Space Museum at Cleveland downtown, KBKL. See www.iwasm.org.

Just thought I'd pass along the nuances here at least of living,
working, raising family, flying, and basing one's Bonanza. ;-) Or
any plane, or any place in the US, for that matter. Best of luck.

Fred F.

TxSrv
September 6th 06, 01:01 AM
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
> "self-serve fuel on the honor system"
>
> whats that? and how does it work?

This is a very small field, though rather near the Big City.
Everybody based there -- plus any local friends of the airport
owner based elsewhere -- gets a key to the little FBO house. You
unlock the door, turn the pump on, gas your plane. Back in the
FBO, note the gallons you took in the log, turn pump off, lock
the door, and go fly. Given this woman's [apt owner]
respectable/potentially stern personality, I never heard of a
tale from her in 20 years the system didn't work. Just what's
wrong with Norman Rockwell's America and small airports, and
selected users thereof which is inconsistent? :-)

Fred F.

Drew Dalgleish
September 6th 06, 01:24 AM
On 5 Sep 2006 15:32:08 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
> wrote:

>"self-serve fuel on the honor system"
>
>whats that? and how does it work?
>
>
At the airport where I get my fuel I have a key to the pump and to a
cabinet in the closest hangar. I pump my fuel then write down the
amount in a book in the cabinet that has a special page for my use
only. There's also a box I can put my cheque in when I buy fuel or
before the end of the month if I'm filling up several times. It's a
great system and I'm able to buy gas there for at least $0.25 per
litre less than anywhere else around here.

David Lesher
September 6th 06, 02:26 AM
writes:


>TxSrv,
>Thanks. I have not accepted the position up there yet. Last offewr
>was good but not enough to cover the higher taxes and living cost. I
>am supposed to hear something this week. Of course a home for my
>Bonanza is a given. I am based at a great place now an a very
>affordable hangar rent. NE ohio is quite a sticker shock, from every
>aspect.


Wait until you get a snowstorm or two..... no sticker needed for a shock.
And the cost of living there is a fraction of anywhere I've been since...

--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

~^ beancounter ~^
September 6th 06, 02:47 AM
Drew....got it....thanx.....


Drew Dalgleish wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2006 15:32:08 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
> > wrote:
>
> >"self-serve fuel on the honor system"
> >
> >whats that? and how does it work?
> >
> >
> At the airport where I get my fuel I have a key to the pump and to a
> cabinet in the closest hangar. I pump my fuel then write down the
> amount in a book in the cabinet that has a special page for my use
> only. There's also a box I can put my cheque in when I buy fuel or
> before the end of the month if I'm filling up several times. It's a
> great system and I'm able to buy gas there for at least $0.25 per
> litre less than anywhere else around here.

TxSrv
September 6th 06, 07:58 AM
David Lesher wrote:
>
> Wait until you get a snowstorm or two..... no sticker needed for a shock.
> And the cost of living there is a fraction of anywhere I've been since...

On the snowstorms part here, I don't agree. For 10 years we've
have mostly "wussy" winters. It is true that the "snow capital"
of Ohio, or about anywhere else in the region, is higher terrain
around Chardon, OH, dead east of Cleveland. Who lives there
anyway. Where I live, adjacent to Lost Nation Airport, too near
Lake Erie for serious lake-effect snows. Untypical of much of
Mentor, OH except for pricey parts, an idyllic, great neighbors,
quiet cul-de-sac street, homes about nestled in the woods. New
3-BDR split $73K in 1983, maybe $150K today if lucky. It's like
about anywhere else in moderate cost areas you choose to live.
Locally shop.

Happenstance home purchase location in 1983, what with the annual
warbird airshow lately at KLNN. This year a B-17, B-24, a
Lancaster, and assorted old cargo aircraft flying short final in
low fly-bys for Rwy 23 atop my house. Neighbors find it cool too.

Fred F.

David Lesher
September 6th 06, 03:04 PM
TxSrv > writes:


>On the snowstorms part here, I don't agree. For 10 years we've
>have mostly "wussy" winters. It is true that the "snow capital"
>of Ohio, or about anywhere else in the region, is higher terrain
>around Chardon, OH, dead east of Cleveland. Who lives there
>anyway.

Some guy with his own B-36, but that does not count.....
(Actually; it's in Newbury, but.....)

--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

September 8th 06, 02:26 PM
Great replies guys. I grew up in the area but have been gone for the
last 20 years. I had a house in Chardon and really liked that area. I
was back for a short visit to that area and it has changed with the new
Wall mart and Home Depot and all the houses. Saw that they finally
tore down the old Broadlawn place on Rt 20 next to Ed Pike. I could
tell some stories about that place.

My Dad ran a power equipment shop on Rt 20 close to the
Mentor-Painesville line for 55 years until I lost him 3 1/2 years ago.
I grew up in that shop. Learned some great lessons from my dad.

There have been periodic returns to the area but not for a relocation
investigation. Last trip was for that purpose.

Still no final decision.

Bob

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