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Bill Brown
December 1st 06, 03:49 AM
I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am presenting.
All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July of
'06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken with
a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies for
the lack of quality.
I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro
Ray O'Hara
December 1st 06, 04:16 AM
"Bill Brown" > wrote in message
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> I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am presenting.
> All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July of
> '06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken
with
> a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies
for
> the lack of quality.
> I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
>
>
>
>
yup
Andrew Chaplin
December 1st 06, 10:47 AM
"Bill Brown" > wrote in message
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>I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am presenting.
> All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July of
> '06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken with
> a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies for
> the lack of quality.
> I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
F-5E has larger leading edge fillets. This is an earlier variant.
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Andrew Chaplin
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Ron Monroe
December 1st 06, 05:26 PM
The F-5E also has larger inlets. And, the F-5A dorsal fairs into the
vertical tail. On the F-5E, the dorsal was enlarged, so that the vertical
sits on top, rather than fairing in.
Ron
"Andrew Chaplin" > wrote in message
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> "Bill Brown" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am presenting.
>> All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July of
>> '06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken
>> with
>> a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies
>> for
>> the lack of quality.
>> I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
>> William M. (Bill) Brown
>> seneo-pro
>
> F-5E has larger leading edge fillets. This is an earlier variant.
> --
> Andrew Chaplin
> SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
> (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
>
Bill Brown
December 1st 06, 05:55 PM
"Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> The F-5E also has larger inlets. And, the F-5A dorsal fairs into the
> vertical tail. On the F-5E, the dorsal was enlarged, so that the vertical
> sits on top, rather than fairing in.
> Ron
>
> "Andrew Chaplin" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Bill Brown" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>>I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am presenting.
>>> All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July of
>>> '06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken
>>> with
>>> a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies
>>> for
>>> the lack of quality.
>>> I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
>>> William M. (Bill) Brown
>>> seneo-pro
>>
>> F-5E has larger leading edge fillets. This is an earlier variant.
>> --
>> Andrew Chaplin
>> SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
>> (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
>>
>
So now you guys have really got me confused (easy to do..)... Can *you*
make out which F-5 mark it is??
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro
Ron Monroe
December 1st 06, 07:09 PM
I could, but, unfortunately, I received the reply, but not the picture. So,
I have enclosed a picture of an F-5E. The dorsal area is the part of the
fuselage behind the cockpit. On the E, it just fairs back, and it looks like
the verticle just sits on top of it.There is a crease at the back of the
canopy that just fades away. This is a remanent of the F-5A dorsal. I will
check to see if I have an F-5A picture to compare with. You can 't see it on
this picture, but the LEX (Leading Edge Extension) is where the wing leading
edge meets the inlet. On the F-5A, it is triangular in shape. On an F-5E,
there are two different shapes, but they were both trapezoidal in shape.
Ron
"Bill Brown" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> The F-5E also has larger inlets. And, the F-5A dorsal fairs into the
>> vertical tail. On the F-5E, the dorsal was enlarged, so that the vertical
>> sits on top, rather than fairing in.
>> Ron
>>
>> "Andrew Chaplin" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Bill Brown" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>>I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am
>>>>presenting.
>>>> All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July
>>>> of
>>>> '06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken
>>>> with
>>>> a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies
>>>> for
>>>> the lack of quality.
>>>> I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
>>>> William M. (Bill) Brown
>>>> seneo-pro
>>>
>>> F-5E has larger leading edge fillets. This is an earlier variant.
>>> --
>>> Andrew Chaplin
>>> SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
>>> (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
>>>
>>
> So now you guys have really got me confused (easy to do..)... Can *you*
> make out which F-5 mark it is??
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
>
>
C Charland
December 1st 06, 07:30 PM
Northrop F-5A
Ron
December 1st 06, 08:04 PM
"Bill Brown" > wrote in message
. ..
>I am not certain of the identification of the next group I am presenting.
> All are photographs I took at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio in July of
> '06. Help will be appreciated. Once again, the photographs were taken
> with
> a hand held digital camera in usually atrocious lighting. My apologies
> for
> the lack of quality.
> I believe this is the twin-engined F-5E.
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
>
It's a twin engined F-5A Freedom Fighter, as used during the Skoshi Tiger
program. First of all: the Paint job gives it away, this was the camouflage
used in SE Asia. Second: the wingtip fueltanks are a give away: they were
(almost?) exlusively used on A, B, C and D model F-5s, whereas the F-5E/F
models had AIM-9 Sidewinder missile rails mounted. Sidewinder rails were
used on A- and B-model F-5s, I know that the (ex-)RNLAF (KLU) Canadair NF-5s
used them.
NF-5A http://www.nf5.nl/images/f5sdd3.jpg
NF-5B http://www.nf5.nl/NIEUWEPICS/nf5b_haf4027_nf5bnu.JPG
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-5_Freedom_Fighter
Ron
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