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September 29th 07, 07:10 PM

Zomby Woof
September 30th 07, 01:43 AM
Is one wing leading edge straight (a la B.1), and the other kinked (a la
B.2)?

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Dave Kearton
September 30th 07, 02:50 AM
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I think that's actually a B.1a with a slightly kinked wing (on both sides),
the B.2 has a much more pronounced shape.

It looks like it's testing a pair of engines, or air-sampling gear of some
kind.


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Herman
September 30th 07, 01:28 PM
The Vulcan was used as a testbed for a number of engines and intake
configurations.
I don't know which engine was being tested in the picture (presumably for an
aircraft with side intakes), but amongst the engines tested were the
Concorde's Olympus (reheated versions of the Vulcan's Olympus), the Pegasus
engine (of Harrier fame) and the Tornado engines (RB199).

Regards,
Herman

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> I think that's actually a B.1a with a slightly kinked wing (on both
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> the B.2 has a much more pronounced shape.
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> It looks like it's testing a pair of engines, or air-sampling gear of some
> kind.
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Tom Inglima
October 1st 07, 05:41 AM
Regarding the Vulcan B-1 photo. I would prsume that this airplane was being
used as a test bed for testing the engines hung under the fuslage. Does
anyone know what type of engines they were. This is the first picture of a
Vulcan I have seen in this configuation.

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Dave Kearton
October 2nd 07, 01:39 AM
Mike Henley wrote:
>> "Tom Inglima" > wrote in message
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>>> Regarding the Vulcan B-1 photo. I would prsume that this airplane
>>> was being used as a test bed for testing the engines hung under the
>>> fuslage. Does anyone know what type of engines they were. This is
>>> the first picture of a Vulcan I have seen in this configuation.
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>>> Tom Inglima
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>> I found this in Wikipedia
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>> Avro Vulcan B1 with underslung Olympus 593 Concorde engine
>> In June 1966 a complete Olympus 593 engine and variable geometry
>> exhaust assembly was first run at Melun-Villaroche, Īle-de-France,
>> France. At Bristol, flight tests began using a RAF Vulcan bomber
>> with the engine attached to its underside. Due to the Vulcan's
>> aerodynamic limitations the tests were limited to a speed of Mach
>> 0.98 (1,200 km/h). During these tests the 593 achieved 35,190 lbf
>> (157 kN) thrust, which exceeded the requirements of the engine.[2]
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Olympus



Close - but no cigar


http://www.thevulcancollection.co.uk/xa903oly593.htm


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Herman
October 3rd 07, 06:39 PM
I gleaned the following information from "Avro Vulcan" by Andrew Brookes,
Ian Allan Ltd.. Descriptions occasionally shortened where appropriate.

Engine testbeds were:
XA894: Bristol Siddeley engine testbed. Modified to carry TSR.2 engine in
ventral pod. Burnt out when engine exploded during ground runs on 3 December
1962.

XA896: Transferred from 230 OCU to Ministry of aviation June 1964 for trials
with underslung vectored-thrust engine intended for Hawker P.1154. When
fighter was scrapped, XA896 quickly followed suit.

XA903: Concorde Olympus test bed; Tornado RB.199 test bed. Landed as last
airworthy B.1 on 22 February 1979. Farnborough fire dump.

Since the air intakes in the picture are simple pitot type, my money is on
XA894.

Regards,
Herman

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> "Tom Inglima" > wrote in message
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>> Regarding the Vulcan B-1 photo. I would prsume that this airplane was
>> being used as a test bed for testing the engines hung under the fuslage.
>> Does anyone know what type of engines they were. This is the first
>> picture of a Vulcan I have seen in this configuation.
>>
>> Tom Inglima
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> I found this in Wikipedia
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> Avro Vulcan B1 with underslung Olympus 593 Concorde engine
> In June 1966 a complete Olympus 593 engine and variable geometry exhaust
> assembly was first run at Melun-Villaroche, Īle-de-France, France. At
> Bristol, flight tests began using a RAF Vulcan bomber with the engine
> attached to its underside. Due to the Vulcan's aerodynamic limitations the
> tests were limited to a speed of Mach 0.98 (1,200 km/h). During these
> tests the 593 achieved 35,190 lbf (157 kN) thrust, which exceeded the
> requirements of the engine.[2]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Olympus
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