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Stephen Harding
December 10th 03, 12:50 PM
Michael Petukhov wrote:

> So perhaps you mean only yours version of oppression will
> be exported (iraq for instance)? Do not worry we can find
> means to export anything we want and without any permissions.

And all this time I thought you were a multilateralist Michael!

You know, UN defining your national interests for you. Going
by majority vote, etc.

You sound like those damned imperialist Americans!


SMH

Alan Minyard
December 12th 03, 03:17 PM
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:59:05 -0500, "Prof. Vincent Brannigan" > wrote:

>
>
>Jarg wrote:
>
>> Well there is a valid point or two in there. Execution is a stretch (though
>> not unheard of in Iran) but she probably wouldn't think to go out in public
>> with her hair uncovered as she might be whipped or beaten. And it is
>> interesting that she chose to use the award ceremony as a platform to
>> criticize the west rather than focusing on the real source of so much misery
>> in Iran, mainly the Iranian theocracy.
>
> "This award will allow women, in Iran and beyond the borders of Iran, to
>believe in themselves. The patriarchal structure and discrimination against
>women, particularly in the Islamic countries, cannot continue forever," she
>said.
>Ebadi also defended the Islamic religion, saying it does not inherently
>conflict with human rights and democratic principles. Instead, she said, it is
>repressive regimes in Islamic countries that have used the religion to spread
>messages of
> prejudice and hatred. "Some Muslims, under the pretext that democracy and
>human rights are not compatible with Islamic teachings and the traditional
>structure of Islamic societies, have justified despotic governments and
>continue to do so. In fact, it
> is not so easy to rule over a people who are aware of their rights using
>traditional patriarchal and paternalistic methods," Ebadi said. The Nobel
>laureate, who has received death threats since the award was
> announced, says she will continue her fight for human rights in
>Iran. The head
> of the Nobel Committee, Ole Mjoes, said today that Ebadi's
>prize may have led
> to greater hostility in the short term, but that repression, in
>the long term, cannot
> persist.
>
>
>Sounds pretty clear to me
>
>Vince

The Nobel committees have become so politically motivated that the
awards no longer have any meaning. They are simply given to the
"most politically correct". It is a sad commentary on international relations.

Al Minyard

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