I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation Magazine -
September/October 1987.
And came across an article about the development of the Mustang.

The picture of the Dart powered Mustang had this caption....

Quote
Well known to Canberra residents for many years this Dart powered Mustang
never got airborne under its turboprop power and is now being rebuilt to
standard D specs.
Un-quote

(Just for the record Canberra Australia is located in our state of New South
Wales and bears the international code YSCB)

The Dart engine looks like it was lifted straight out of a Vickers Viscount
or similar.

**************
The caption for the Piper Enforcer reads....

Quote
The final version of the long lived Mustang was the Piper Enforcer. This
Counter Insurgency aircraft was powered by a 2445shp Lycoming turboprop and
was optimised to deliver up to 5600 Lb of underwing stores while operating
out of remote and semi prepared strips.
For a variety of political and and technical reasons the aircraft never got
past initial developmental funding and the two Enforcer prototypes presently
remain in storage.
Un-quote

Does anyone have any further information on these two interesting types.

With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
smaller.

Graham

"TacAN" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> The picture of the Dart powered Mustang had this caption....
>
> Quote
> Well known to Canberra residents for many years this Dart powered Mustang
> never got airborne under its turboprop power and is now being rebuilt to
> standard D specs.
> Un-quote
>
> (Just for the record Canberra Australia is located in our state of New
> South
> Wales and bears the international code YSCB)
>
> The Dart engine looks like it was lifted straight out of a Vickers
> Viscount
> or similar.

Personally, I think the "Dart" is a giveaway to the Dornier Do 335 "Pfeil"
(meaning arrow or dart in English):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_335
(all pics from the article included in the post)

The "long nose" engine part certainly does look somewhat similar (to me at
least).

Just wondering why the went with a four-blade propeller instead of the
second aft-mounted three-blade one (ok, obviously saves one engine ;))...

Re the Enforcer, I dug out our copy of Piper Aircraft by Roger W.
Peperell, published by www.airbritain.com . Roger is the official Piper
historian and has complete access to all company records.

Anyway, Roger says there were four Enforcers in two distinct programs.

The first two airframes were purchased from Cavalier Aircraft Corp in
1970 as incomplete turbo-prop conversions. The conversions were
completed at Vero Beach, powered by Lycoming's 2445 SHP T55-L-9 engine.
These airplanes had a 10,500 lb gross weight and were capable of 397 kts
with a 2550 ft-min rate of climb. Service ceiling was 42,000 ft.

The first aircraft was a two-seat dual control version designated PE2
which first flew April 28, 1971. PE2 was lost July 12, 1971 when the
tail separated from the airplane due to flutter. The test pilot safely
ejected and was rescued by a surfer just off the beach.

The second aircraft was a single-seat version designated PE1 which
first flew later in July 1971. These airplanes were equipped with six
..50-caliber machine guns and up to 10 bombs under the wings. They had
extended fuel capacity in wing tip tanks and more than twice the armor
carried by the original Mustang.

This design was submitted by Piper as the "Enforcer" in response to
the Air Force's A-X requirement, but Piper was unsuccessful and Northrup
and Fairchild were awarded contracts to produce prototypes for a fly-off
which evently yielded the A-10.

The second program was the PA-48 Enforcer. Two airplanes were built at
Piper's Lakeland facility using the PE1 as a pattern aircraft. Major
design changes included: lengthening the aft fuselage 19-inches,
stregthening the wing to support a 14,000 lb. gross weight, new
ailerons, raising the canopy and seat 1.5 inches to improve over the
nose visibility, a new rudder, tail-plane and tail cone. These
airplanes were also powered by Lycoming's 2445 SHP T55-L-9 engine and
used a cut-down A-1E Skyraider four-bladed propeller. They were capable
of 350 kts with a 4790 ft-min rate of climb. Service ceiling was 37,600
ft.

The first airplane, EN-1, first flew April 9, 1983 and was used to
test performance, stability and control systems.

The second airplane, EN-2, first flew July 8, 1983 and was to be the
weapons testbed. It was equipped with six under-wing pylons and was to
carry the G.E. Gepod 30mm 4-barrel rotary cannon.

These airplanes were delivered to the Air Force in late 1984 for
trials. There is no evidence the trials were ever conducted. Both
airplanes were in U.S.A.F. museums in the 1990's: one at Dayton and the
other at Edwards.

Enjoy, Bob
"TacAN" > wrote in message
...
>I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation Magazine -
>September/October 1987.
> And came across an article about the development of the Mustang.
>
> The picture of the Dart powered Mustang had this caption....
>
> Quote
> Well known to Canberra residents for many years this Dart powered Mustang
> never got airborne under its turboprop power and is now being rebuilt to
> standard D specs.
> Un-quote
>
> (Just for the record Canberra Australia is located in our state of New
> South Wales and bears the international code YSCB)
>
> The Dart engine looks like it was lifted straight out of a Vickers
> Viscount or similar.
>
> **************
> The caption for the Piper Enforcer reads....
>
> Quote
> The final version of the long lived Mustang was the Piper Enforcer. This
> Counter Insurgency aircraft was powered by a 2445shp Lycoming turboprop
> and was optimised to deliver up to 5600 Lb of underwing stores while
> operating out of remote and semi prepared strips.
> For a variety of political and and technical reasons the aircraft never
> got past initial developmental funding and the two Enforcer prototypes
> presently remain in storage.
> Un-quote
>
> Does anyone have any further information on these two interesting types.
>
> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
> smaller.
>
> Graham
>
>
>
>

at one point one was in Canberra in Australia.

I missed it :-( And at that time, I even lived at the airport.

http://www.warbirdz.net/phpBB2/showthread.php?t=2582&highlight=turbo


"Bob Walter" > wrote in message
. ..
> Re the Enforcer, I dug out our copy of Piper Aircraft by Roger W.
> Peperell, published by www.airbritain.com . Roger is the official Piper
> historian and has complete access to all company records.
>
> Anyway, Roger says there were four Enforcers in two distinct programs.
>
> The first two airframes were purchased from Cavalier Aircraft Corp in
> 1970 as incomplete turbo-prop conversions. The conversions were
> completed at Vero Beach, powered by Lycoming's 2445 SHP T55-L-9 engine.
> These airplanes had a 10,500 lb gross weight and were capable of 397 kts
> with a 2550 ft-min rate of climb. Service ceiling was 42,000 ft.
>
> The first aircraft was a two-seat dual control version designated PE2
> which first flew April 28, 1971. PE2 was lost July 12, 1971 when the
> tail separated from the airplane due to flutter. The test pilot safely
> ejected and was rescued by a surfer just off the beach.
>
> The second aircraft was a single-seat version designated PE1 which
> first flew later in July 1971. These airplanes were equipped with six
> .50-caliber machine guns and up to 10 bombs under the wings. They had
> extended fuel capacity in wing tip tanks and more than twice the armor
> carried by the original Mustang.
>
> This design was submitted by Piper as the "Enforcer" in response to
> the Air Force's A-X requirement, but Piper was unsuccessful and Northrup
> and Fairchild were awarded contracts to produce prototypes for a fly-off
> which evently yielded the A-10.
>
> The second program was the PA-48 Enforcer. Two airplanes were built at
> Piper's Lakeland facility using the PE1 as a pattern aircraft. Major
> design changes included: lengthening the aft fuselage 19-inches,
> stregthening the wing to support a 14,000 lb. gross weight, new
> ailerons, raising the canopy and seat 1.5 inches to improve over the
> nose visibility, a new rudder, tail-plane and tail cone. These
> airplanes were also powered by Lycoming's 2445 SHP T55-L-9 engine and
> used a cut-down A-1E Skyraider four-bladed propeller. They were capable
> of 350 kts with a 4790 ft-min rate of climb. Service ceiling was 37,600
> ft.
>
> The first airplane, EN-1, first flew April 9, 1983 and was used to
> test performance, stability and control systems.
>
> The second airplane, EN-2, first flew July 8, 1983 and was to be the
> weapons testbed. It was equipped with six under-wing pylons and was to
> carry the G.E. Gepod 30mm 4-barrel rotary cannon.
>
> These airplanes were delivered to the Air Force in late 1984 for
> trials. There is no evidence the trials were ever conducted. Both
> airplanes were in U.S.A.F. museums in the 1990's: one at Dayton and the
> other at Edwards.
>
> Enjoy, Bob
> "TacAN" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation Magazine -
>>September/October 1987.
>> And came across an article about the development of the Mustang.
>>
>> The picture of the Dart powered Mustang had this caption....
>>
>> Quote
>> Well known to Canberra residents for many years this Dart powered Mustang
>> never got airborne under its turboprop power and is now being rebuilt to
>> standard D specs.
>> Un-quote
>>
>> (Just for the record Canberra Australia is located in our state of New
>> South Wales and bears the international code YSCB)
>>
>> The Dart engine looks like it was lifted straight out of a Vickers
>> Viscount or similar.
>>
>> **************
>> The caption for the Piper Enforcer reads....
>>
>> Quote
>> The final version of the long lived Mustang was the Piper Enforcer. This
>> Counter Insurgency aircraft was powered by a 2445shp Lycoming turboprop
>> and was optimised to deliver up to 5600 Lb of underwing stores while
>> operating out of remote and semi prepared strips.
>> For a variety of political and and technical reasons the aircraft never
>> got past initial developmental funding and the two Enforcer prototypes
>> presently remain in storage.
>> Un-quote
>>
>> Does anyone have any further information on these two interesting types.
>>
>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
>> smaller.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hi Bob

Thanks so much for all the additional.

Cheers
Graham

"Bob Walter" > wrote in message
. ..

The one pictured apparently is the same one that was based at Canberra.
Certainly pre-1987 - if someone could "date" the "xxxxxx Aviation Terminal"
in the background, it might give a better idea when this picture was taken.
Unfortunately the article in the October 1987 Australian Aviation magazine
mentioned no time frame for the Dart powered Mustang.

Cheers

Graham

"Glenn" > wrote in message
...
> at one point one was in Canberra in Australia.
>
> I missed it :-( And at that time, I even lived at the airport.
>
> http://www.warbirdz.net/phpBB2/showthread.php?t=2582&highlight=turbo
>

For a few years it was near the south fence at Canberra with a tarp covering
it. I remember seeing it from the road.

"Glenn" > wrote in message
...
> at one point one was in Canberra in Australia.
>
> I missed it :-( And at that time, I even lived at the airport.
>
> http://www.warbirdz.net/phpBB2/showthread.php?t=2582&highlight=turbo
>
>
> "Bob Walter" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Re the Enforcer, I dug out our copy of Piper Aircraft by Roger W.
>> Peperell, published by www.airbritain.com . Roger is the official Piper
>> historian and has complete access to all company records.
>>
>> Anyway, Roger says there were four Enforcers in two distinct programs.
>>
>> The first two airframes were purchased from Cavalier Aircraft Corp in
>> 1970 as incomplete turbo-prop conversions. The conversions were
>> completed at Vero Beach, powered by Lycoming's 2445 SHP T55-L-9 engine.
>> These airplanes had a 10,500 lb gross weight and were capable of 397 kts
>> with a 2550 ft-min rate of climb. Service ceiling was 42,000 ft.
>>
>> The first aircraft was a two-seat dual control version designated PE2
>> which first flew April 28, 1971. PE2 was lost July 12, 1971 when the
>> tail separated from the airplane due to flutter. The test pilot safely
>> ejected and was rescued by a surfer just off the beach.
>>
>> The second aircraft was a single-seat version designated PE1 which
>> first flew later in July 1971. These airplanes were equipped with six
>> .50-caliber machine guns and up to 10 bombs under the wings. They had
>> extended fuel capacity in wing tip tanks and more than twice the armor
>> carried by the original Mustang.
>>
>> This design was submitted by Piper as the "Enforcer" in response to
>> the Air Force's A-X requirement, but Piper was unsuccessful and Northrup
>> and Fairchild were awarded contracts to produce prototypes for a fly-off
>> which evently yielded the A-10.
>>
>> The second program was the PA-48 Enforcer. Two airplanes were built at
>> Piper's Lakeland facility using the PE1 as a pattern aircraft. Major
>> design changes included: lengthening the aft fuselage 19-inches,
>> stregthening the wing to support a 14,000 lb. gross weight, new
>> ailerons, raising the canopy and seat 1.5 inches to improve over the
>> nose visibility, a new rudder, tail-plane and tail cone. These
>> airplanes were also powered by Lycoming's 2445 SHP T55-L-9 engine and
>> used a cut-down A-1E Skyraider four-bladed propeller. They were capable
>> of 350 kts with a 4790 ft-min rate of climb. Service ceiling was 37,600
>> ft.
>>
>> The first airplane, EN-1, first flew April 9, 1983 and was used to
>> test performance, stability and control systems.
>>
>> The second airplane, EN-2, first flew July 8, 1983 and was to be the
>> weapons testbed. It was equipped with six under-wing pylons and was to
>> carry the G.E. Gepod 30mm 4-barrel rotary cannon.
>>
>> These airplanes were delivered to the Air Force in late 1984 for
>> trials. There is no evidence the trials were ever conducted. Both
>> airplanes were in U.S.A.F. museums in the 1990's: one at Dayton and the
>> other at Edwards.
>>
>> Enjoy, Bob
>> "TacAN" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation Magazine -
>>>September/October 1987.
>>> And came across an article about the development of the Mustang.
>>>
>>> The picture of the Dart powered Mustang had this caption....
>>>
>>> Quote
>>> Well known to Canberra residents for many years this Dart powered
>>> Mustang never got airborne under its turboprop power and is now being
>>> rebuilt to standard D specs.
>>> Un-quote
>>>
>>> (Just for the record Canberra Australia is located in our state of New
>>> South Wales and bears the international code YSCB)
>>>
>>> The Dart engine looks like it was lifted straight out of a Vickers
>>> Viscount or similar.
>>>
>>> **************
>>> The caption for the Piper Enforcer reads....
>>>
>>> Quote
>>> The final version of the long lived Mustang was the Piper Enforcer. This
>>> Counter Insurgency aircraft was powered by a 2445shp Lycoming turboprop
>>> and was optimised to deliver up to 5600 Lb of underwing stores while
>>> operating out of remote and semi prepared strips.
>>> For a variety of political and and technical reasons the aircraft never
>>> got past initial developmental funding and the two Enforcer prototypes
>>> presently remain in storage.
>>> Un-quote
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any further information on these two interesting types.
>>>
>>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
>>> smaller.
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

TacAN wrote:
>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation
>> Magazine - September/October 1987.
>>
>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
>> smaller.
>>
>> Graham




Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
Canberra.








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Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> TacAN wrote:
>>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation
>>> Magazine - September/October 1987.
>>>
>>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
>>> smaller.
>>>
>>> Graham
>
>
>
>
> Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
> Canberra.

> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>
>

Good one, Dave. :-))
Thanks

Graham

"TacAN" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
| ...
| > TacAN wrote:
| >>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation
| >>> Magazine - September/October 1987.
| >>>
| >>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
| >>> smaller.
| >>>
| >>> Graham
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
| > Canberra.
|
| > Cheers
| >
| > Dave Kearton
| >
| >
| >
|
| Good one, Dave. :-))
| Thanks
|
| Graham
|
|


Well, cover me with honey and throw me to the lesbians .....




Here's the second photo I took that day, found by the wife, under an
ancient pile of books in the 'spare' room.





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Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> "TacAN" > wrote in message
> ...
> |
> | "Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > TacAN wrote:
> | >>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation

> | > Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
> | > Canberra.
> |
> | > Cheers
> | >
> | > Dave Kearton
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
> | Good one, Dave. :-))
> | Thanks
> |
> | Graham
> |
> |
>
>
> Well, cover me with honey and throw me to the lesbians .....
>

lol
Include me in!! :-))

>
>
>
> Here's the second photo I took that day, found by the wife, under an
> ancient pile of books in the 'spare' room.
>

You will have to suitably "reward" your dear lady. ;-)

I keep wondering if the critter ever actually flew with the Dart engine. So
far haven't any further info.
Daresay something will turn up one day.

Thanks again, Dave

Graham


>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>
>

TacAN wrote:
>> "Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, cover me with honey and throw me to the lesbians .....
>>>
>>
>> lol
>> Include me in!! :-))
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's the second photo I took that day, found by the wife, under
>>> an ancient pile of books in the 'spare' room.
>>>
>>
>> You will have to suitably "reward" your dear lady. ;-)




Oh well, if you insist....



We're doing the big clean-up. It's amazing the things that you find when
piling crap into the trailer for the trip to the dump.
Unfortunately, I've also found a lot of stuff I've replaced, believing them
to be lost.






>>
>> I keep wondering if the critter ever actually flew with the Dart
>> engine. So far haven't any further info.
>> Daresay something will turn up one day.



It never flew Dart-wise, according to what I've heard. One would
imagine if it had flown, it would have been all over the mainstream media.


I can imagine 60 Minutes doing another 'Wings of Death' piece over it.






>>
>> Thanks again, Dave
>>
>> Graham
>>



No probs.



--

Cheers

Dave Kearton

Thanks Dave. That brings back memories on my many trips to the Bush Capital.
There was a Beech Twin Bonanza parked nearby on the GA apron. Do you happen
to have a photo of it as well? Can't remember the rego.

Avsec

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> "TacAN" > wrote in message
> ...
> |
> | "Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > TacAN wrote:
> | >>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation
> | >>> Magazine - September/October 1987.
> | >>>
> | >>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images
> much
> | >>> smaller.
> | >>>
> | >>> Graham
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
> | > Canberra.
> |
> | > Cheers
> | >
> | > Dave Kearton

Avsec wrote:
>> Thanks Dave. That brings back memories on my many trips to the Bush
>> Capital.


LOL - that reminds me of my trip there. I went north from Wangaratta,
through Adminaby, (hey, it's only an inch on the map as opposed to 2-3
inches through Cooma)


I was blown away, at 24Km south of the capital, that I was on a dirt road,
crossing cattle grids and I think I even had to go through a gate as well.



"The PM ? he's not around, he's shearin' this week in the south 40"






>> There was a Beech Twin Bonanza parked nearby on the GA
>> apron. Do you happen to have a photo of it as well? Can't remember
>> the rego.
>>
>> Avsec
>>


No, sorry, I can't remember what exactly drew me to the airport and
stumbled across the Mustang by accident. The original print doesn't
help much either.



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gee dave, that sort of Photo needs to be on a certain australian website.
:-)
"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> TacAN wrote:
>>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation
>>> Magazine - September/October 1987.
>>>
>>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
>>> smaller.
>>>
>>> Graham
>
>
>
>
> Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
> Canberra.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>
>

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> TacAN wrote:
>>> "Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, cover me with honey and throw me to the lesbians .....
>>>>
>>>
>>> lol
>>> Include me in!! :-))
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the second photo I took that day, found by the wife, under
>>>> an ancient pile of books in the 'spare' room.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You will have to suitably "reward" your dear lady. ;-)
>
>
>
>
> Oh well, if you insist....
>
>
>
> We're doing the big clean-up. It's amazing the things that you find
> when
> piling crap into the trailer for the trip to the dump.
> Unfortunately, I've also found a lot of stuff I've replaced, believing
> them
> to be lost.
>
>
Ditto, I now finally after many years have access to all my books, magazines
photos and paraphenalia.
I'm in heaven :-)

Only took about 5 grand worth of TV and Display cabinet to allow me to get
extra space to move things around clearing a path to my long lost (behind
crap) bookshelves.


>

Glenn wrote:
>> gee dave, that sort of Photo needs to be on a certain australian
>> website. :-)


Hmmmm, I wonder which one that is .....



Be my guest, it'll be in good company.





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Cheers

Dave Kearton

"TacAN" > wrote (in part):

<Big snip>
>
>I keep wondering if the critter ever actually flew with the Dart engine. So
>far haven't any further info.
>Daresay something will turn up one day.

IIRC the owner/builder did not any progressive DOT (or whatever it was
then) checks, so it never got any kind of C of A.

Cheers,
Mike

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Remove "XYZ" from the "Reply to" address when responding by email.

thats the one I remember. Its got Saber drop tanks too. I remember them as
well.

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> TacAN wrote:
>>> I had been reading through a back issue of Australian Aviation
>>> Magazine - September/October 1987.
>>>
>>> With apologies to the folk on dialup - I couldn't get the images much
>>> smaller.
>>>
>>> Graham
>
>
>
>
> Hey cool, I found my picture. I took this on holiday in '78 in
> Canberra.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>
>

Love to but it's no longer on this server.

I don't normally upload for other people but I would gladly in this case :-)
Can you email me it directly.

Thanks


"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> Glenn wrote:
>>> gee dave, that sort of Photo needs to be on a certain australian
>>> website. :-)
>
>
> Hmmmm, I wonder which one that is .....
>
>
>
> Be my guest, it'll be in good company.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>

Glenn wrote:
>> Love to but it's no longer on this server.
>>
>> I don't normally upload for other people but I would gladly in this
>> case :-) Can you email me it directly.
>>
>> Thanks
>>



Standby the inbox, prepare to accept boarders....




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Cheers

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