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Mark
November 27th 03, 10:18 PM
I was looking at purchasing a Topo Atlas from airchart.com It says its
based on WAC charts and they don't have alot of airport frequencies
listed. When traveling with these atlases, how do you find frequencies
if you have to deviate around weather or something else? Do you also
have to carry around facility directories for the country?

Please email replies if possible as well.

Thanks

Mark

Mark
November 27th 03, 11:52 PM
In article >, "Jim Weir"
> wrote:

> I've been using Keefe's Atlas for three years now and wouldn't go back
> to WACs if you gave them to me. I don't know what frequencies you are
> referring to; all the places I go have the frequencies well defined on
> the charts.

I checked some smaller airports and they didn't have freq. listed. One
would be ljf (litchfield) about 50 mi W of Minneapolis class B

Jim Weir
November 28th 03, 12:28 AM
I've been using Keefe's Atlas for three years now and wouldn't go back to WACs
if you gave them to me. I don't know what frequencies you are referring to;
all the places I go have the frequencies well defined on the charts.


"Mark" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->I was looking at purchasing a Topo Atlas from airchart.com It says its
->based on WAC charts and they don't have alot of airport frequencies
->listed. When traveling with these atlases, how do you find frequencies
->if you have to deviate around weather or something else? Do you also
->have to carry around facility directories for the country?



If you don't want to bother reading your usenet posts for a reply, why use
usenet in the first place?

->
->Please email replies if possible as well.
->
->Thanks
->
->Mark


Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Mark
November 28th 03, 12:43 AM
In article >, "Jim Weir"
> wrote:

> That's because Litchfield doesn't HAVE any frequencies, not even a
> Unicom. No little "U" at the end of the airport info block on the
> chart. The AOPA airport directory says that 122.9 is monitored, but
> this is strictly unofficial.

well, it does have a CTAF.. but I suppose that's not an official freq..

> However, the advantage of having the entire USA in one relatively small
> book far outweighs the disadvantage of not knowing the unicom frequency
> from the chart. For that and a dozen other reasons (phone numbers,
> fuel, etc.) I carry the AOPA Airport Directory right next to the Topo
> Atlas. That and I do check the airport I'm flying to on Airnav to get
> the up to date info.

oh yeah.. I had forgotten about that.. the paper AOPA directory :)
Thanks for that tip. The updates for the atlas, are they a pdf or
something you print out? I wish they had a sample update you could look
at.

Jim Weir
November 28th 03, 01:35 AM
That's because Litchfield doesn't HAVE any frequencies, not even a Unicom. No
little "U" at the end of the airport info block on the chart. The AOPA airport
directory says that 122.9 is monitored, but this is strictly unofficial.

However, one of the big deficiences (IMHO) of the WAC charts is that they simply
say "U" without specifying WHICH unicom frequency it is. This was fine back in
the good old days when 122.8 was *it*, but is lacking in the current airspace.

However, the advantage of having the entire USA in one relatively small book
far outweighs the disadvantage of not knowing the unicom frequency from the
chart. For that and a dozen other reasons (phone numbers, fuel, etc.) I carry
the AOPA Airport Directory right next to the Topo Atlas. That and I do check
the airport I'm flying to on Airnav to get the up to date info.

Jim


"Mark" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->In article >, "Jim Weir"
> wrote:
->
->> I've been using Keefe's Atlas for three years now and wouldn't go back
->> to WACs if you gave them to me. I don't know what frequencies you are
->> referring to; all the places I go have the frequencies well defined on
->> the charts.
->
->I checked some smaller airports and they didn't have freq. listed. One
->would be ljf (litchfield) about 50 mi W of Minneapolis class B

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Jim Weir
November 28th 03, 03:31 AM
The minor updates are just information lines that you can pencil-write on the
charts. Major updates are color printed page parts that you scotch-tape over
the old information.

Jim


"Mark" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->oh yeah.. I had forgotten about that.. the paper AOPA directory :)
->Thanks for that tip. The updates for the atlas, are they a pdf or
->something you print out? I wish they had a sample update you could look
->at.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

David Johnson
November 28th 03, 03:42 AM
I have used the Topo Atlas for several coast-to-coast trips, and
found it a whole lot easier to use than a stack of sectionals.
For frequency info I always carry the AOPA Airport Directory -
and this info is also on my GPS North America Database.

David Johnson

ArtP
November 28th 03, 04:01 AM
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:18:38 -0600, "Mark" > wrote:

>I was looking at purchasing a Topo Atlas from airchart.com It says its
>based on WAC charts and they don't have alot of airport frequencies
>listed.

I used to use the WACs from Aircharts. But now that I tried the
Sectionals from Aircharts (2 books, one east and one west) I will use
them instead.

Mark
November 28th 03, 04:13 AM
In article >, "ArtP"
> wrote:

> I used to use the WACs from Aircharts. But now that I tried the
> Sectionals from Aircharts (2 books, one east and one west) I will use
> them instead.

They released both sectional charts? are they giving a break on it if
you order both? I saw the price for one was $100

ArtP
November 28th 03, 12:45 PM
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:13:13 -0600, "Mark" > wrote:


>They released both sectional charts? are they giving a break on it if
>you order both? I saw the price for one was $100

Can't answer that since I only need the east.

Ron Natalie
December 1st 03, 02:36 PM
"Mark" > wrote in message . ..
> I was looking at purchasing a Topo Atlas from airchart.com It says its
> based on WAC charts and they don't have alot of airport frequencies

He now has a sectional based product as well I believe.

I used the WAC based topo book as a back up. I'd cheat and use the freqs from the
GPS database on the one time I flew off the sectional and had to use the wac book.

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