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Andrew Sarangan
October 21st 04, 03:14 AM
AOPA has also set up a special e-mail address for member questions to Adm.
Stone about the flight training rules. Here are the two questions I sent
in:

Except for voting rights, resident aliens are offered the same
priviledges as US citizens in this country. Some are serving in the US
military and are fighting for our freedom in Iraq right now. Under the
new TSA rule, they will be treated like terrorists. If they are safe
enough for military service, why are they unsafe for taking flying
lessons in a small aircraft?

Currently, TSA prohibits anyone other than a citizen or resident alien
from driving trucks containing explosive materials. If resident
aliens are deemed safe to drive trucks loaded with explosives (which
are far more dangerous than single engine airplanes), why are they not
given the same priviledges in the new TSA rule on flight training?



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Roger Long
October 21st 04, 02:07 PM
> Except for voting rights, resident aliens are offered the same
> privileges as US citizens in this country. Some are serving in the US
> military and are fighting for our freedom in Iraq right now. Under the
> new TSA rule, they will be treated like terrorists. If they are safe
> enough for military service, why are they unsafe for taking flying
> lessons in a small aircraft?
>

Same reason airline pilots are searched for weapons before being allowed to
put their hands on the trigger of the same weapon used to take down the WTC,
public perception. It's all about distracting the public from the fact that
the government is too gutless and inefficient to do anything real about
making us safe.


--

Roger Long

John Galban
October 21st 04, 10:40 PM
Andrew Sarangan > wrote in message >...
>
> Currently, TSA prohibits anyone other than a citizen or resident alien
> from driving trucks containing explosive materials. If resident
> aliens are deemed safe to drive trucks loaded with explosives (which
> are far more dangerous than single engine airplanes), why are they not
> given the same priviledges in the new TSA rule on flight training?
>

I long ago quit trying to find logic in government "security
measures". You won't find it, and it's just frustrating to keep
trying.

I saw a program the other night where someone at an airport security
checkpoint had their nail clippers confiscated. The man pointed out
that the same nail clippers were available in the gift shop on the
secure side of the checkpoint. Didn't matter.

If you ask the average traveller, they'll tell you that these
pointless exercises make the feel "safer". We have turned into a
nation of hysterical morons. As far as I'm concerned, Osama has won a
victory on a larger scale than he ever imagined.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Chris
October 21st 04, 11:00 PM
"John Galban" > wrote in message
om...
> Andrew Sarangan > wrote in message
> >...
>>
>> Currently, TSA prohibits anyone other than a citizen or resident alien
>> from driving trucks containing explosive materials. If resident
>> aliens are deemed safe to drive trucks loaded with explosives (which
>> are far more dangerous than single engine airplanes), why are they not
>> given the same priviledges in the new TSA rule on flight training?
>>
>
> I long ago quit trying to find logic in government "security
> measures". You won't find it, and it's just frustrating to keep
> trying.
>
> I saw a program the other night where someone at an airport security
> checkpoint had their nail clippers confiscated. The man pointed out
> that the same nail clippers were available in the gift shop on the
> secure side of the checkpoint. Didn't matter.
>
> If you ask the average traveller, they'll tell you that these
> pointless exercises make the feel "safer". We have turned into a
> nation of hysterical morons. As far as I'm concerned, Osama has won a
> victory on a larger scale than he ever imagined.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

I had another similar thing happen to me today.

I had to check my hand luggage because it had a razor in it. The razor was
in a kit I had been given by Qantas a couple of weeks ago when travelling in
business class. I had assumed that because this was given out by an airline
it was safe.

Rosspilot
October 22nd 04, 12:18 AM
> We have turned into a
>nation of hysterical morons.


On the money. It's damn disheartening to see the decline from the America I
grew up in.



www.Rosspilot.com

Dave Stadt
October 22nd 04, 12:22 AM
"John Galban" > wrote in message
om...
> Andrew Sarangan > wrote in message
>...
> >
> > Currently, TSA prohibits anyone other than a citizen or resident alien
> > from driving trucks containing explosive materials. If resident
> > aliens are deemed safe to drive trucks loaded with explosives (which
> > are far more dangerous than single engine airplanes), why are they not
> > given the same priviledges in the new TSA rule on flight training?
> >
>
> I long ago quit trying to find logic in government "security
> measures". You won't find it, and it's just frustrating to keep
> trying.
>
> I saw a program the other night where someone at an airport security
> checkpoint had their nail clippers confiscated. The man pointed out
> that the same nail clippers were available in the gift shop on the
> secure side of the checkpoint. Didn't matter.
>
> If you ask the average traveller, they'll tell you that these
> pointless exercises make the feel "safer". We have turned into a
> nation of hysterical morons. As far as I'm concerned, Osama has won a
> victory on a larger scale than he ever imagined.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

The governments first reaction has always been to punish the innocent.

zatatime
October 22nd 04, 01:12 AM
On 21 Oct 2004 14:40:28 -0700, (John Galban)
wrote:

> Osama has won a
>victory on a larger scale than he ever imagined.


Too true.

z

Eduardo K.
October 28th 04, 02:01 PM
In article >,
John Galban > wrote:
>>
> As far as I'm concerned, Osama has won a
>victory on a larger scale than he ever imagined.
>

Yep.

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