When you file a flight plan or request flight following, and you have to
indicate how the aircraft is equiped I usually say /u because the plane
does not have a GPS unit. Now that I have the airmap 1000 and will be
flying with that, when contacting flight service can I say /g, or is that
only if the GPS is a fixed piece of equipment in the airplane?

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

Only if it is installed and is IFR approved (which the Airmap 1000 isn't)

Rod

> wrote in message
...
> When you file a flight plan or request flight following, and you have to
> indicate how the aircraft is equiped I usually say /u because the plane
> does not have a GPS unit. Now that I have the airmap 1000 and will be
> flying with that, when contacting flight service can I say /g, or is that
> only if the GPS is a fixed piece of equipment in the airplane?
>
> --
> Mike Flyin'8
> PP-ASEL
> Temecula, CA
> http://flying.4alexanders.com

Cool. Thanks for the quick response! I noticed the section of the AIM
says /G must have "En Route and Terminal Capabilities"

What is that? I looked online and can not find what that means...


"Rod Madsen" > wrote:
> Only if it is installed and is IFR approved (which the Airmap 1000 isn't)
>
> Rod
>

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

On 24 Mar 2005 18:56:40 GMT, wrote:

>Cool. Thanks for the quick response! I noticed the section of the AIM
>says /G must have "En Route and Terminal Capabilities"
>
>What is that? I looked online and can not find what that means...

I believe it refers to the unit auto-changing the sensitivity on the
CDI (5NM -> .3NM) when transitioning to (30NM radius of the
destination airport?) the terminal area and getting set up for an
approach.

"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
> On 24 Mar 2005 18:56:40 GMT, wrote:
>
>>Cool. Thanks for the quick response! I noticed the section of the AIM
>>says /G must have "En Route and Terminal Capabilities"
>>
>>What is that? I looked online and can not find what that means...
>
> I believe it refers to the unit auto-changing the sensitivity on the
> CDI (5NM -> .3NM) when transitioning to (30NM radius of the
> destination airport?) the terminal area and getting set up for an
> approach.

It also means that it has to be approved for IFR flight. Also read AC 90-94.

BT

> wrote in message
...
>
> When you file a flight plan or request flight following, and you have to
> indicate how the aircraft is equiped I usually say /u because the plane
> does not have a GPS unit. Now that I have the airmap 1000 and will be
> flying with that, when contacting flight service can I say /g, or is that
> only if the GPS is a fixed piece of equipment in the airplane?
>

For the purposes of a VFR flight plan or flight following, nobody cares if
it's fixed/portable or approved/unapproved.

> For the purposes of a VFR flight plan or flight following, nobody cares
> if it's fixed/portable or approved/unapproved.

So am I allowed to say /G when flying VFR when using the AM1000? I know
the reason for telling them is so they know you can accept direct routing.
For this scenario the AM1000 would work just fine, but in the AIM it says
something about "En Route and Terminal Capabilities" next to the /G
description.

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

wrote:

>
> So am I allowed to say /G when flying VFR when using the AM1000?

Yes.


I know
> the reason for telling them is so they know you can accept direct routing.

You're VFR, you won't be routed anywhere.


> For this scenario the AM1000 would work just fine, but in the AIM it says
> something about "En Route and Terminal Capabilities" next to the /G
> description.

They are talking about IFR ops.

In article >, Newps >
wrote:

> > So am I allowed to say /G when flying VFR when using the AM1000?
>
> Yes.

really? It's ok to lie about the aircraft equipment? Or is that just
a quick way to get across the point that you have a VFR GPS without
having to tie up the frequency?

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

"Newps" > wrote in message
> wrote:
>> So am I allowed to say /G when flying VFR when using the AM1000?
>
> Yes.

No.
>
> I know
>> the reason for telling them is so they know you can accept direct
>> routing.
>
> You're VFR, you won't be routed anywhere.

Unless you're in controlled airspace.

Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

moo

> wrote in message
...
>
> So am I allowed to say /G when flying VFR when using the AM1000? I know
> the reason for telling them is so they know you can accept direct routing.
> For this scenario the AM1000 would work just fine, but in the AIM it says
> something about "En Route and Terminal Capabilities" next to the /G
> description.
>

Accept direct routing? If you're interested in this only for VFR flight
plans and flight following then there's nobody to assign you any routing.

"Happy Dog" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> Unless you're in controlled airspace.
>

You mean a center might assign me some route while I'm operating VFR in
Class E airspace?

"Steven P. McNicoll" >
>>
>> Unless you're in controlled airspace.
>>
> You mean a center might assign me some route while I'm operating VFR in
> Class E airspace?

You know what I meant. If you're pointing out a technical error, you are
correct.

moo

"Happy Dog" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> You know what I meant. If you're pointing out a technical error, you are
> correct.
>

Actually, I don't know what you meant. You seem to be saying that ATC can
issue specific routes to VFR aircraft in controlled airspace. That's true
under some specific conditions but as a rule it is incorrect.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
> "Happy Dog" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>Unless you're in controlled airspace.
>>
>
>
> You mean a center might assign me some route while I'm operating VFR in
> Class E airspace?

Is the answer different if you ask "You mean a TRACON might assign me some route
while I'm operating VFR in Class B airspace?"

"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
news:1111758522.263022@sj-nntpcache-3...
>
> Is the answer different if you ask "You mean a TRACON might assign me some
> route while I'm operating VFR in Class B airspace?"
>

Yup. But not all airspace is Class B and when you're operating VFR in Class
B or Class C airspace you're receiving more than just flight following.

Happy Dog wrote:


>>You're VFR, you won't be routed anywhere.
>
>
> Unless you're in controlled airspace.

Only in class B will you be given a vector. Being in controlled
airspace is irrelavant.

> Only in class B will you be given a vector. Being in controlled
> airspace is irrelavant.

Long time listener, first time caller. I'm a student, so please don't
kill me.... but I was recently on a cross country flight approaching
Class C airspace. I called into approach to get clearance to transit
class c to get to my destination (an airport just outside the class c).
They gave me a squawk, verified my altitude, then started giving me
directional vectors to stay clear of traffic. I entered class C in
this configuration.

Since I'm a new guy, I might be mistaken, but doesn't that contradict
the statement that you will _only_ get vectors in bravo?

I'll take my answer off the air, thanks!

The flight plan form is really set up for IFR. Technically, you should
not use the /G unless it is an IFR GPS. It would however be a good idea
to add it to the remarks section.

The ATC controllers never see a VFR flight plan so it doesn't matter for
them. The VFR flight plan stays with FSS strictly for use in search and
rescue. Adding the GPS to the remarks section will help rescuers narrow
down your probable course if they need to go look for you.

Helen

"Newps" > wrote in message
...
>
> Only in class B will you be given a vector.

Incorrect, you can also be vectored in Class C airspace, including the outer
area, and in TRSAs.

"Ben Hallert" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Long time listener, first time caller. I'm a student, so please don't
> kill me.... but I was recently on a cross country flight approaching
> Class C airspace. I called into approach to get clearance to transit
> class c to get to my destination (an airport just outside the class c).
> They gave me a squawk, verified my altitude, then started giving me
> directional vectors to stay clear of traffic. I entered class C in
> this configuration.
>
> Since I'm a new guy, I might be mistaken, but doesn't that contradict
> the statement that you will _only_ get vectors in bravo?
>

His statement was wrong.