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MyCoxaFallen
June 2nd 05, 06:23 PM
Different career field in Government but the same reason the FAA is in a
state of decline
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/ww20050601.shtml
Steve Foley
June 2nd 05, 06:39 PM
More racist B.S.
"MyCoxaFallen" > wrote in message
. ..
Different career field in Government but the same reason the FAA is in a
state of decline
http:// don't bother - it's crap.shtml
Jonathan Goodish
June 2nd 05, 07:18 PM
In article <avHne.15459$qJ3.4062@trnddc05>,
"Steve Foley" > wrote:
> More racist B.S.
>
> "MyCoxaFallen" > wrote in message
> . ..
> Different career field in Government but the same reason the FAA is in a
> state of decline
>
> http:// don't bother - it's crap.shtml
Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to say
(in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)? At first
glance, the article appears to address political correctness run amok
and not race.
In any case, it's a stretch to say that the subject of the opinion piece
cited explains the FAAs problems. The FAA, like most government
agencies and large corporations, constantly struggles with problems of
its own creation, many of them resulting from political correctness or
an attempt to treat unequal productivity equally.
JKG
Chris
June 2nd 05, 07:31 PM
"Jonathan Goodish" > wrote in message
...
> In article <avHne.15459$qJ3.4062@trnddc05>,
> "Steve Foley" > wrote:
>
>> More racist B.S.
>>
>> "MyCoxaFallen" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>> Different career field in Government but the same reason the FAA is in a
>> state of decline
>>
>> http:// don't bother - it's crap.shtml
>
>
> Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
> Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to say
> (in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)?
anyone can be racist, black, white, yellow whatever. Racism is not a white
monopoly.
Jonathan Goodish
June 2nd 05, 09:36 PM
In article >,
"Chris" > wrote:
> > Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
> > Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to say
> > (in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)?
>
> anyone can be racist, black, white, yellow whatever. Racism is not a white
> monopoly.
You missed the point--the original reply cited an article as "racist,"
but the article really doesn't talk about race, so I am still curious as
to how the poster determined that it was "racist."
Bottom line is that the original post and the reply were probably both
trolls, but I found them somewhat amusing, so I decided to ask some
obvious questions.
JKG
Montblack
June 2nd 05, 09:52 PM
("Chris" wrote)
> anyone can be racist, black, white, yellow whatever. Racism is not a white
> monopoly.
Not according to much popular "who's got the power" drivel. It is a one-way
proposition to that crowd.
Race should NEVER be a question ....on government forms ....in government
studies ....on University applications ....on job performance reviews ...on
bank loans ...anywhere!!!
It is offensive to be asked for your race, for the sole purpose of assigning
value to you - if you have the "correct" eye color. If there is no correct
eye color for the college position, government grant, promotion, seat at the
counter, seat on the bus, drinking fountain, etc - then why ask the damn
question?
Speaking of Chaos...
http://www.ulm.it/fly_in/test/rans_s9/chaos_en.htm
http://www.s910.central5.com/
http://www.rans.com/s-9.htm
Mont ...rainbow
Chris Schmelzer
June 2nd 05, 10:18 PM
In article >,
MyCoxaFallen > wrote:
> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/ww20050601.shtml
Give me a break....
This has WHAT to do with the FAA you sicko?
--
Chris Schmelzer, MD
Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI
MyCoxaFallen
June 2nd 05, 11:30 PM
Great response Jonathan
You sir must be intelligent and open minded
Steve, you are an idiot
Please do not fly IFR in my airspace
BTW, Jonathan is very close. In the current FAA
if you are an F employee or an A employee you are treated the same.
You know, the way socialism "assumes" everyone deserves the same pay.
IAW, the FAA is socialist and will fail if it continues on the path it
is on.
Hiring for diversity and political correctness goals rather than
qualifications and experience in the SAFETY business
NASA is going through the same pain, 2 shuttles and 14 lives later.
>
>Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
>Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to say
>(in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)? At first
>glance, the article appears to address political correctness run amok
>and not race.
>
>In any case, it's a stretch to say that the subject of the opinion piece
>cited explains the FAAs problems. The FAA, like most government
>agencies and large corporations, constantly struggles with problems of
>its own creation, many of them resulting from political correctness or
>an attempt to treat unequal productivity equally.
>
>
>
>JKG
>
>
Steve Foley
June 3rd 05, 02:53 AM
MyCoxaFallen has also recently posted as SolarSapien and DrunkKlingon
lamenting the downfall of the FAA because it is run by blacks and women.
Do a google search on his recent posts to see what I mean.
"Jonathan Goodish" > wrote in message
...
> In article <avHne.15459$qJ3.4062@trnddc05>,
> "Steve Foley" > wrote:
>
> > More racist B.S.
> >
> > "MyCoxaFallen" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > Different career field in Government but the same reason the FAA is in a
> > state of decline
> >
> > http:// don't bother - it's crap.shtml
>
>
> Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
> Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to say
> (in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)? At first
> glance, the article appears to address political correctness run amok
> and not race.
>
> In any case, it's a stretch to say that the subject of the opinion piece
> cited explains the FAAs problems. The FAA, like most government
> agencies and large corporations, constantly struggles with problems of
> its own creation, many of them resulting from political correctness or
> an attempt to treat unequal productivity equally.
>
>
>
> JKG
Steve Foley
June 3rd 05, 02:57 AM
What I meant was that MyCoxaFallen/SolarSapien/DrunkKlingon is using this
off-topic article to promote his racist agenda againat the FAA.
"Jonathan Goodish" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Chris" > wrote:
> > > Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
> > > Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to
say
> > > (in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)?
> >
> > anyone can be racist, black, white, yellow whatever. Racism is not a
white
> > monopoly.
>
>
> You missed the point--the original reply cited an article as "racist,"
> but the article really doesn't talk about race, so I am still curious as
> to how the poster determined that it was "racist."
>
> Bottom line is that the original post and the reply were probably both
> trolls, but I found them somewhat amusing, so I decided to ask some
> obvious questions.
>
>
>
> JKG
Steve Foley
June 3rd 05, 03:02 AM
I thought you said you wouldn't fly IFR near any large cities because the
FAA has been ruined by blacks and women.
"MyCoxaFallen" > wrote in message
. ..
> Steve, you are an idiot
> Please do not fly IFR in my airspace
MyCoxaFallen
June 3rd 05, 05:15 AM
Off-Topic?
I was referencing the link and the FAA regarding the comparative analogy
of incompetent
employees in critical positions. So, it is not OFF TOPIC if you fly and
use FAA services
Racist Agenda?
Define please
Or does the truth hurt Steve???
I have proof of what I speak of
Do you have proof I am racist?
What color do you think I am?
What sex?
Where am I from?
How many hours do I have upstairs?
Have you froze your ass off on a metal seat in a B52
while your crew mate takes a **** in a can and sprays you as you bump
through air no commercial plane would fly through?
Have you see men burn alive in a plane crash?
Have you seen one airplane hit another airplane in the air and pieces of
people rain out?
Have you see a human body after it hits the earth at around 200
knots in a upside down ILS approach because of vertigo?
I have all of the above and more
One more hint; my Family Doctor is African-American and
takes care of my two children
Does that sound racist?
Answer this Stevie, is it possible that political correctness and
diversity is just a shield for unqualified minorities and women, and
when they are exposed (Such as the recent FAA chaos cluster F&*^ in DC)
is it possible that an unqualified minority who contributed to the chaos
could yell "Racist agenda" and "Those terrible white males" when their
incompetence is investigated? Incompetence that can get innocent people
killed when you hire unqualified minorities and women into safety of
flight positions. You know IFR/Bad Weather/Tin stacked up like cord wood
stuff etc. Would you say "Hey it's OK no problem it's only Air Traffic
Control what's the big deal if some people get killed as long as we have
a few more women, gays and blacks in the FAA"?
Is Diversity and Social agendas and Political Correctness worth getting
you or me or your family killed??
(*subliminal* message NASA, SPACE SHUTTLE, BURNED ASTRONAUTS, SMOKE)
I have proof of FAA incompetence and unqualified employees in very
critical safety positions as we speak.
Do you have proof I am a racist or heaven forbid I address INCOMPETENCE
in critical Government safety of flight positions when
it involves
*THE MIGHTY **OMNIPOTENT** BLACK FEMALE GODDESS*
When you are up at 10000 punching through pea soup low on fuel and icing
up don't you want the best *QUALIFIED* people
controlling air traffic and maintaining the NAVAID/COMMUNICATION/RADAR
infrastructure in the FAA you can get??
In the new but socially twisted Federal *AVIATION* Administration that
is no longer important only how many blacks do you have and why did you
promote that white guy you must justify it and Homosexual pride parties
(No Bible study however) and every pride week
EXCEPT white males and blacks promoted away from there screw up's and
female secretary's rushed through school
and placed on radar watch in critical airspace because " we don't have
enough women" while the tax payer endures incredible FAA
cost over runs and delays in Air Traffic modernization etc etc. etc.
I have proof of all of it
Shall I make an ass out of you in a public forum or privately?
It's your choice
BTW, it does not matter how I post or what my name is. It does not
matter how I know what I know. The truth is the truth.
The FAA hires and promotes unqualified people in critical safety
positions in America to meet social and diversity goals.
I have proof. It is not an agenda. I am a Patriot for Air Safety
You are a spineless weasel who fears the "Guvment" and anyone speaking
the TRUTH if it violates politically correct goals and agendas
Now, respond smart ass let's see what you got in rebuttal
Steve Foley wrote:
>What I meant was that MyCoxaFallen/SolarSapien/DrunkKlingon is using this
>off-topic article to promote his racist agenda againat the FAA.
>
>
>"Jonathan Goodish" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>In article >,
>> "Chris" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Now I'm really curious--what is "racist" about the article? Is it
>>>>Walter Williams (who happens to be black)? Or is it what he has to
>>>>
>>>>
>say
>
>
>>>>(in which case, you're saying that blacks can be racists)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>anyone can be racist, black, white, yellow whatever. Racism is not a
>>>
>>>
>white
>
>
>>>monopoly.
>>>
>>>
>>You missed the point--the original reply cited an article as "racist,"
>>but the article really doesn't talk about race, so I am still curious as
>>to how the poster determined that it was "racist."
>>
>>Bottom line is that the original post and the reply were probably both
>>trolls, but I found them somewhat amusing, so I decided to ask some
>>obvious questions.
>>
>>
>>
>>JKG
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Michael Houghton
June 6th 05, 04:54 PM
Howdy!
In article >,
MyCoxaFallen > wrote:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
[snip meaningless questions intended to divert]
>Do you have proof I am racist?
>
>What color do you think I am?
>What sex?
>Where am I from?
>How many hours do I have upstairs?
>Have you froze your ass off on a metal seat in a B52
>while your crew mate takes a **** in a can and sprays you as you bump
>through air no commercial plane would fly through?
>Have you see men burn alive in a plane crash?
>Have you seen one airplane hit another airplane in the air and pieces of
>people rain out?
>Have you see a human body after it hits the earth at around 200
>knots in a upside down ILS approach because of vertigo?
>
>I have all of the above and more
What do any of the above have to do with "are you racist?" Those
questions are so much BS.
>
>One more hint; my Family Doctor is African-American and
>takes care of my two children
>
>Does that sound racist?
It means nothing with respect to the question at hand. Trotting that
out certainly raises the suspicion that you are trying to obscure
the truth of the matter.
>
>Answer this Stevie, is it possible that political correctness and
>diversity is just a shield for unqualified minorities and women, and
>when they are exposed (Such as the recent FAA chaos cluster F&*^ in DC)
>is it possible that an unqualified minority who contributed to the chaos
>could yell "Racist agenda" and "Those terrible white males" when their
>incompetence is investigated? Incompetence that can get innocent people
>killed when you hire unqualified minorities and women into safety of
>flight positions. You know IFR/Bad Weather/Tin stacked up like cord wood
>stuff etc. Would you say "Hey it's OK no problem it's only Air Traffic
>Control what's the big deal if some people get killed as long as we have
>a few more women, gays and blacks in the FAA"?
Ah. Now your colors show through. You have an agenda and you won't let
facts get in your way. Your tone and wording speak volumes, and they
aren't flattering of your character.
[snip remainder of ill-constructed screed]
yours,
Michael
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