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tom pettit
November 15th 05, 10:22 PM
A big ol' high pressure has taken over the Northwest and I've been flying!
Yesterday I rolled out the Savannah and headed for the Oregon coast. I flew
straight to Siletz airstrip, got rid of excess coffee and then headed up the
coast. At 1000 MSL I could watch sea lions, gulls, pellicans, and humans
walking on the beach. We have had some wet weather, so lots of water falls
could be seen cascading into the ocean around Cascade head and Cape Lookout.
I did touch and goes at Seaside and Astoria, then crossed the Columbia and
did another T&G at Ilwaco. There was lots of ship and barge traffic on the
river as I headed inland. Another full stop for bio break and a drink at
Kelso/Longview. My last stop before heading home was a T&G at Woodland.
This is a neat little strip just yards east of I5. As I was on final, at
only 45 mph, the cars were passing me by, but then when I touched down, and
punched the throttle, I quickly accelerated to pass those cars. Going home
I followed the Columbia down to Portland, then the Willamette to Corvallis,
my home. All in all, 345 miles, 4.7 hours of pure joy. Yeah, if you did
the math, my plane is slow. All the better for sight seeing. Did I mention
that this trip only took 17 gallons of premium Mogas?
tom pettit

Ben Jackson
November 15th 05, 11:05 PM
On 2005-11-15, tom pettit <> wrote:
> My last stop before heading home was a T&G at Woodland.
> This is a neat little strip just yards east of I5.

Wow, I thought *landing* at W27 took courage. I didn't know anyone was
crazy enough to do T&Gs!

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

tom pettit
November 15th 05, 11:12 PM
I'm cheating with my little airplane. While slow at 80-90 mph cruise speed,
the slatted wings give lots of lift and the beauty will take off in less
than 150 feet and land in about 200.

tom: crazy, but safe


"Ben Jackson" > wrote in message
...
> On 2005-11-15, tom pettit <> wrote:
>> My last stop before heading home was a T&G at Woodland.
>> This is a neat little strip just yards east of I5.
>
> Wow, I thought *landing* at W27 took courage. I didn't know anyone was
> crazy enough to do T&Gs!
>
> --
> Ben Jackson
> >
> http://www.ben.com/

Chris G.
November 16th 05, 12:17 AM
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Be careful on the coast. As you know, most of the coast is dotted with
these little "Wildlife Refuge" markers, raising the recommended floor to
2000 AGL. I did my long XC for my PP from SLE-MMV-ONP-SLE and had a
blast! Newport was a challenge to land at that day because of the winds.

Any suggestions for landing at Siletz Bay? That's on of the
destinations I want to go to with my wife.

Chris G.
PP-ASEL 8/27/05
http://www.k7sle.com (yes, that SLE does mean Salem ;)

tom pettit <tompet<at>peak wrote:
> A big ol' high pressure has taken over the Northwest and I've been flying!
> Yesterday I rolled out the Savannah and headed for the Oregon coast. I flew
> straight to Siletz airstrip, got rid of excess coffee and then headed up the
> coast. At 1000 MSL I could watch sea lions, gulls, pellicans, and humans
> walking on the beach. We have had some wet weather, so lots of water falls
> could be seen cascading into the ocean around Cascade head and Cape Lookout.
> I did touch and goes at Seaside and Astoria, then crossed the Columbia and
> did another T&G at Ilwaco. There was lots of ship and barge traffic on the
> river as I headed inland. Another full stop for bio break and a drink at
> Kelso/Longview. My last stop before heading home was a T&G at Woodland.
> This is a neat little strip just yards east of I5. As I was on final, at
> only 45 mph, the cars were passing me by, but then when I touched down, and
> punched the throttle, I quickly accelerated to pass those cars. Going home
> I followed the Columbia down to Portland, then the Willamette to Corvallis,
> my home. All in all, 345 miles, 4.7 hours of pure joy. Yeah, if you did
> the math, my plane is slow. All the better for sight seeing. Did I mention
> that this trip only took 17 gallons of premium Mogas?
> tom pettit
>
>
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Ben Jackson
November 16th 05, 12:34 AM
On 2005-11-16, Chris G. <nospam@noemail> wrote:
>
> Any suggestions for landing at Siletz Bay? That's on of the
> destinations I want to go to with my wife.

It's a great coast destination. If you walk out of the the parking area
to 101 you can cross one direction of the highway, climb a set of stairs
set in the hill and cross the other side. There's a restaurant right
there, and you can get to the beach by walking through the nearby
neighborhoods.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

Mike Rapoport
November 16th 05, 02:22 AM
"tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
...
> I'm cheating with my little airplane. While slow at 80-90 mph cruise
> speed, the slatted wings give lots of lift and the beauty will take off in
> less than 150 feet and land in about 200.
>
> tom: crazy, but safe


OK, What is it?

Mike
MU-2

tom pettit
November 16th 05, 02:37 AM
It's a Savannah kitplane by ICP. See http://www.skykits.com/ for details.
Some would say it's a rip-off of the Zenith CH701 STOL, while the more
enlightened would say it's an improvement. 8-)

tom pettit


"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm cheating with my little airplane. While slow at 80-90 mph cruise
>> speed, the slatted wings give lots of lift and the beauty will take off
>> in less than 150 feet and land in about 200.
>>
>> tom: crazy, but safe
>
>
> OK, What is it?
>
> Mike
> MU-2
>
>

Mike Rapoport
November 16th 05, 04:51 AM
"tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
...
> It's a Savannah kitplane by ICP. See http://www.skykits.com/ for details.
> Some would say it's a rip-off of the Zenith CH701 STOL, while the more
> enlightened would say it's an improvement. 8-)
>
> tom pettit
>
>
> "Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>>
>> "tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm cheating with my little airplane. While slow at 80-90 mph cruise
>>> speed, the slatted wings give lots of lift and the beauty will take off
>>> in less than 150 feet and land in about 200.
>>>
>>> tom: crazy, but safe
>>
>>
>> OK, What is it?
>>
>> Mike
>> MU-2
>>
>>
>
>

Cool airplane. I am particularly impressed by the claim that the parts are
so dimensionally accurate that no fabrication is required!

Mike
MU-2

Jay Honeck
November 16th 05, 01:04 PM
> Cool airplane. I am particularly impressed by the claim that the parts
> are so dimensionally accurate that no fabrication is required!

See Tom and his plane here:

http://alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_i_-_p.htm#P
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
November 16th 05, 01:06 PM
>A big ol' high pressure has taken over the Northwest and I've been flying!

Enjoy it, man. We've been socked in here for a week, and last night we got
hit with a nasty ice/snow storm.

I'm expecting FEMA to roll in any minute...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Gig 601XL Builder
November 16th 05, 02:33 PM
A completely unlicensed improvement. I never understood why Zenair didn't
sue the crap out of them.


"tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
...
> It's a Savannah kitplane by ICP. See http://www.skykits.com/ for details.
> Some would say it's a rip-off of the Zenith CH701 STOL, while the more
> enlightened would say it's an improvement. 8-)
>
> tom pettit
>
>
> "Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>>
>> "tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm cheating with my little airplane. While slow at 80-90 mph cruise
>>> speed, the slatted wings give lots of lift and the beauty will take off
>>> in less than 150 feet and land in about 200.
>>>
>>> tom: crazy, but safe
>>
>>
>> OK, What is it?
>>
>> Mike
>> MU-2
>>
>>
>
>

rps
November 16th 05, 04:36 PM
> I'm expecting FEMA to roll in any minute...

Then it will surely be a disaster!

tom pettit
November 16th 05, 05:25 PM
I've wondered the same. Much of the fuselage is the same. Landing gear,
empenage, engine mounting, wings are all quite different, though.

tom



"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
...
>A completely unlicensed improvement. I never understood why Zenair didn't
>sue the crap out of them.
>
>
> "tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
> ...
>> It's a Savannah kitplane by ICP. See http://www.skykits.com/ for
>> details. Some would say it's a rip-off of the Zenith CH701 STOL, while
>> the more enlightened would say it's an improvement. 8-)

tom pettit
November 16th 05, 05:25 PM
ICP uses CNC laser and punch presses to create many of the parts and holes.
I would guess only 10% of the holes need to be drilled by the assembler. In
my case, the plane was flying in 275 hours, and this was the reason I went
with ICP instead of Zenith. I'm retired and didn't want to spend the rest
of my life building the plane.

tom

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:M7Gef.543273$x96.37269@attbi_s72...
>> Cool airplane. I am particularly impressed by the claim that the parts
>> are so dimensionally accurate that no fabrication is required!
>

gatt
November 16th 05, 06:28 PM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:M7Gef.543273

> See Tom and his plane here:
>
> http://alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_i_-_p.htm#P

HAHA! I knew I recognized it!

Margy
November 17th 05, 12:18 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>>A big ol' high pressure has taken over the Northwest and I've been flying!
>
>
> Enjoy it, man. We've been socked in here for a week, and last night we got
> hit with a nasty ice/snow storm.
>
> I'm expecting FEMA to roll in any minute...
>
> ;-)
I was thinking about you while watching the weather channel : -). I
drove to work with the top down today, but I think today was it.
Tonight, cold, raining, tomorrow worse.

On that subject:

We still haven't done anything about a preheat system. What I'm
thinking of now on Michelle P's suggestion is one of those oil pan heat
pads (the metal ones) on a thermostat. Any better/different ideas? I
haven't gotten Ron to agree on anything yet, but once I say "It's below
40, you aren't starting my new engine" he will make some decisions.

Margy

Ron Lee
November 17th 05, 01:19 AM
>We still haven't done anything about a preheat system. What I'm
>thinking of now on Michelle P's suggestion is one of those oil pan heat
>pads (the metal ones) on a thermostat. Any better/different ideas? I
>haven't gotten Ron to agree on anything yet, but once I say "It's below
>40, you aren't starting my new engine" he will make some decisions.

I use a Reiff pad with a suitable timer. Works great but only if you
have several hours before you fly.

Ron Lee

Jose
November 17th 05, 04:32 AM
> We still haven't done anything about a preheat system. What I'm thinking of now on Michelle P's suggestion is one of those oil pan heat pads (the metal ones) on a thermostat. Any better/different ideas?

We use electric oil heaters in our planes. Plug them in at night, the
plane is good to go in the morning.

Jose
--
He who laughs, lasts.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jay Honeck
November 17th 05, 03:06 PM
> We still haven't done anything about a preheat system. What I'm thinking
> of now on Michelle P's suggestion is one of those oil pan heat pads (the
> metal ones) on a thermostat. Any better/different ideas? I haven't
> gotten Ron to agree on anything yet, but once I say "It's below 40, you
> aren't starting my new engine" he will make some decisions.

We have a combination of cylinder heaters and the oil pan heater. It makes
for a toasty engine all around.

It doesn't do much good when you forget to plug it in, though. Mary had to
drive to the hangar and plug 'er in this morning (after dropping Joe off at
school) so we can go flying later this morning. It was 10 above zero here
this morning!

Incredibly we were running the air conditioning at the hotel just 4 days
ago! This weather change hit us so fast that I barely got my Mustang put
away (it was pouring 40 degree rain when I drove it to the hangar) before
the damned salt trucks started to roll -- and my motorcycle is still at home
in the garage. I ain't riding it to the hangar today!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Tri-Pacer
November 17th 05, 05:19 PM
Beautiful WX in NW---I say bah humbug <Grin>

KSEA 171656Z 03007KT 1 1/2SM BR OVC002 07/06 A3049 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 SLP333
T00670056


Cheers:

Paul
N1431A

Chris G.
November 17th 05, 05:57 PM
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Anything unsual or out of the ordinary about the pattern/approach? Any
helpful tips for landing there? I always like to solicit feedback and
get first-hand info about "new" airports (to me). I'm going to Baker
City, Oregon, for the holiday and will be scheduling time with an
instructor, wx permitting.

Chris


Ben Jackson wrote:
> On 2005-11-16, Chris G. <nospam@noemail> wrote:
>
>>Any suggestions for landing at Siletz Bay? That's on of the
>>destinations I want to go to with my wife.
>
>
> It's a great coast destination. If you walk out of the the parking area
> to 101 you can cross one direction of the highway, climb a set of stairs
> set in the hill and cross the other side. There's a restaurant right
> there, and you can get to the beach by walking through the nearby
> neighborhoods.
>
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Chris G.
November 17th 05, 05:59 PM
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:P

Chris

Tri-Pacer wrote:
> Beautiful WX in NW---I say bah humbug <Grin>
>
> KSEA 171656Z 03007KT 1 1/2SM BR OVC002 07/06 A3049 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 SLP333
> T00670056
>
>
> Cheers:
>
> Paul
> N1431A
>
>
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gatt
November 17th 05, 08:22 PM
"Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message news:437cc4d0$0$27950$

>I always like to solicit feedback and get first-hand info about "new"
>airports (to me). I'm going >to Baker City, Oregon, for the holiday and
>will be scheduling time with an
> instructor, wx permitting.

Haven't landed there but I checked it out from the ground. Doesn't look
like there are any surprises there BUT, keep your eyes peeled for the Oregon
Trail Interpretive Center up on the nearby hill, and if you look northeast
you should be able to see a faint crease in the landscape, which are the
wagon ruts on the Oregon Trail

The Interpretive Center, by the way, is fantastic.

-c

Chris G.
November 18th 05, 04:28 PM
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very cool! I didn't realize there was an OTIC there! I've been to the
one in Baker City, though. It's a good one. My wife worked there one
summer in college.

Anyone landed in Baker City, Oregon? (KBKE) Any suggestions? I'm going
there over Thanksgiving weekend and will probably try to get checked out
with in instructor in their planes while I'm there, as well as get
familiar with the area from the air.

Chris G.

gatt wrote:
> "Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message news:437cc4d0$0$27950$
>
>
>>I always like to solicit feedback and get first-hand info about "new"
>>airports (to me). I'm going >to Baker City, Oregon, for the holiday and
>>will be scheduling time with an
>>instructor, wx permitting.
>
>
> Haven't landed there but I checked it out from the ground. Doesn't look
> like there are any surprises there BUT, keep your eyes peeled for the Oregon
> Trail Interpretive Center up on the nearby hill, and if you look northeast
> you should be able to see a faint crease in the landscape, which are the
> wagon ruts on the Oregon Trail
>
> The Interpretive Center, by the way, is fantastic.
>
> -c
>
>
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Tom
November 19th 05, 01:23 AM
Now, if you had done a touch and go at Flying M, then we would be impressed.
Although, it is actually possible to do one there if one doesn't slow down
too much.
God, I love Flying M.



"Ben Jackson" > wrote in message
...
> On 2005-11-15, tom pettit <> wrote:
>> My last stop before heading home was a T&G at Woodland.
>> This is a neat little strip just yards east of I5.
>
> Wow, I thought *landing* at W27 took courage. I didn't know anyone was
> crazy enough to do T&Gs!
>
> --
> Ben Jackson
> >
> http://www.ben.com/

Tom
November 19th 05, 01:26 AM
Pacific City is another good one. Land and walk across the road to Fat
Freddies, or whatever the name is, and get good food and look at the
pictures of airplanes that have landed into the restaurant.


"Ben Jackson" > wrote in message
...
> On 2005-11-16, Chris G. <nospam@noemail> wrote:
>>
>> Any suggestions for landing at Siletz Bay? That's on of the
>> destinations I want to go to with my wife.
>
> It's a great coast destination. If you walk out of the the parking area
> to 101 you can cross one direction of the highway, climb a set of stairs
> set in the hill and cross the other side. There's a restaurant right
> there, and you can get to the beach by walking through the nearby
> neighborhoods.
>
> --
> Ben Jackson
> >
> http://www.ben.com/

tom pettit
November 19th 05, 02:49 AM
I have done a touch and go at Pacific City. Also Toledo. I've been to
Flying M. I alway want to stop there, so I haven't tried the T&G. One guy
who flys a 172, and used to fly helicopters, took a ride with me and
commented, "this thing flys like a 'copter". I wish I could afford a
chopper, but that isn't in the cards.
tom pettit

"Tom" > wrote in message
...
> Pacific City is another good one. Land and walk across the road to Fat
> Freddies, or whatever the name is, and get good food and look at the
> pictures of airplanes that have landed into the restaurant.
>
>
> "Ben Jackson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2005-11-16, Chris G. <nospam@noemail> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for landing at Siletz Bay? That's on of the
>>> destinations I want to go to with my wife.
>>
>> It's a great coast destination. If you walk out of the the parking area
>> to 101 you can cross one direction of the highway, climb a set of stairs
>> set in the hill and cross the other side. There's a restaurant right
>> there, and you can get to the beach by walking through the nearby
>> neighborhoods.
>>
>> --
>> Ben Jackson
>> >
>> http://www.ben.com/
>
>

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