I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
into trouble, makes the right decision and gets on the ground safely
with his reserve. Things sometimes go very wrong in the air, so for all
their contraversy, I for one would love to have a similar option and
have BRS style emergency chutes installed on planes I fly.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2559389195612380066&q=crash

Watch it till the end - it gets even more exciting in the last few
seconds :-)

-Aviv

Did this guy enter into some type of spin?



On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:09:11 -0400, Aviv Hod
> wrote:

>I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
>into trouble, makes the right decision and gets on the ground safely
>with his reserve. Things sometimes go very wrong in the air, so for all
>their contraversy, I for one would love to have a similar option and
>have BRS style emergency chutes installed on planes I fly.
>
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2559389195612380066&q=crash
>
>Watch it till the end - it gets even more exciting in the last few
>seconds :-)
>
>-Aviv

Many years ago my flight instructor advised, "If it's not regulated by
Pt 91, don't fly it."


Aviv Hod wrote:
> I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
> into trouble, makes the right decision and gets on the ground safely
> with his reserve. Things sometimes go very wrong in the air, so for all
> their contraversy, I for one would love to have a similar option and
> have BRS style emergency chutes installed on planes I fly.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2559389195612380066&q=crash
>
> Watch it till the end - it gets even more exciting in the last few
> seconds :-)
>
> -Aviv

Wow! Interesting video. Can't tell exactly what happened but it
sounded like he hit some strong lift - at that point, a guess would be
either that he manuevered to stay in it and did a stall/spin (not
unknown in certificated gliders), or the flexible wing 'collapsed' in
some way that he was not able to recover from.

When I glided in sailplanes (part 91 type) I wore a chute but never used
it thank god. I have tree landed and pulled 2 others out of trees. The
end of this one brought back many memories.

Thanks.

Aviv Hod wrote:
> I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
> into trouble, makes the right decision and gets on the ground safely
> with his reserve. Things sometimes go very wrong in the air, so for all
> their contraversy, I for one would love to have a similar option and
> have BRS style emergency chutes installed on planes I fly.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2559389195612380066&q=crash
>
> Watch it till the end - it gets even more exciting in the last few
> seconds :-)
>
> -Aviv

Was that a Stall Warning horn we can hear? I don't know anything about these
things. His problems started right after the horn went crazy. Strike that,
his problems may have started when he strapped that thing on him.
ron



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"Ron Snipes" > wrote in message
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> Was that a Stall Warning horn we can hear? I don't know anything about
> these
> things. His problems started right after the horn went crazy. Strike that,
> his problems may have started when he strapped that thing on him.
> ron
>
>
>
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I think that is a thermal indicator. They beep faster as you gain altitude
in a thermal.

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DW

Darkwing wrote:
> "Ron Snipes" > wrote in message
> I think that is a thermal indicator. They beep faster as you gain
altitude
> in a thermal.

That is correct. An "audio variometer" might be the term to use.
Glider pilots call it "the audio". The increase in volume and rate
indicates a quickly increasing and sustained rate of climb. He hit a
strong thermal concurrent with the upset that brought him down.

It's not uncommon, though sloppy, for gliders to stall as they pitch up
to enter and circle in a thermal. I have no familiarity with flexible
wing aircraft. I wonder if a 'sharp edged' thermal can momentarily
increase the wing's angle of attack to the stall angle since the delta
between forward speed and the thermal's vertical speed is relatively
small. A strong thermal can easily have a sustained vertical speed of
10knots, and I'm guessing a flex wing aircraft can have a minimum
forward spped of 15knots or less (?).

Ron Snipes schrieb:

> Was that a Stall Warning horn we can hear? I don't know anything about these
> things. His problems started right after the horn went crazy. Strike that,
> his problems may have started when he strapped that thing on him.

Oh yeah. When pedestrians, journalists and other kinds of lower spezies
think aviation is dangerous, they are ignorant. But those same pilots
who know everything about aviation act exactly the same when it comes to
flying apparati they don't know anything about.

BTW, what you've heard is an acoustic variometer (vertical speed
indicator). The increasing beep rate means he's entered a thermal and is
gaining altitude.

Stefan

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:09:11 -0400, Aviv Hod
> wrote:

>I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
>into trouble, makes the right decision and gets on the ground safely
>with his reserve. Things sometimes go very wrong in the air, so for all
>their contraversy, I for one would love to have a similar option and
>have BRS style emergency chutes installed on planes I fly.
>
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2559389195612380066&q=crash
>
>Watch it till the end - it gets even more exciting in the last few
>seconds :-)
>
>-Aviv


Oh My God!!!

What a video. You'd think this happened to this guy everyday the way
he never had any inflection to his voice.

Thanks for sharing.
z

"zatatime" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:09:11 -0400, Aviv Hod
> > wrote:
>
>>I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
>>-Aviv
>
>
> Oh My God!!!
>
> What a video. You'd think this happened to this guy everyday the way
> he never had any inflection to his voice.

yeah, I was waiting for the obligatory "oh S#!+"

In article >,
says...
> Did this guy enter into some type of spin?

It looked that way to me (I saw the vid months back on another site,
that had a whole lotta PG stuff - but can't find it now). He didn't
seem to provide any corrective action (I'm only guessing that they do
what we do, apply opposite "rudder").

--
Duncan

In article >,
says...
> Was that a Stall Warning horn we can hear? I don't know anything about these
> things. His problems started right after the horn went crazy. Strike that,
> his problems may have started when he strapped that thing on him.
> ron

From my gliding experience, that's a vario yer listening to - tells you
by way of sound how much lift yer getting.

--
Duncan

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:09:11 -0400, Aviv Hod
> wrote:

>I just ran across a fascinating video of a paragliding pilot that gets
>into trouble...

This was the subject of much discussion on the paragliding lists some
time ago (I'm a paraglider pilot, though of the motorized type).
It started with a wing collapse (deflation), which is not uncommon
in rowdy air (like the "sharp edged thermals" the pilot mentioned) and
which usually reinflates all by itself with no pilot intervention and
minimal altitude loss. It then looks like he overreacted, causing a
stall/spin. Often only half of the wing collapses, causing a turn to
that side.

-Dana
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:12:14 -0400, Stubby
> wrote:

>Many years ago my flight instructor advised, "If it's not regulated by
>Pt 91, don't fly it."

Pity. You and your flight instructor are both missing out on some
great flying... in many cases with safety record equal to or exceeding
that of Part 91 operations. Both are as safe as you make it.

"Many years ago", though, in the early days of ultralights, he may
have been right. :)

-Dana
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