This is great footage from the landing of a Jet-Airplane by JET BLUE
with Landing-Gear Problems. The Landing-Gear is positioned sideways. It
is amazing to me what this tires and axles can withstand without
falling apart and the pilot is doing a great job too :
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aircraft3.html

Lufthansi wrote:
> This is great footage from the landing of a Jet-Airplane by JET BLUE
> with Landing-Gear Problems. The Landing-Gear is positioned sideways. It
> is amazing to me what this tires and axles can withstand without
> falling apart and the pilot is doing a great job too :
> http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aircraft3.html
>

Good, calm action by the flight crew made it almost a non-event.
Unfortunately, video coverage and the fact that it was in LA meant that
all the talking heads on the networks spent hours gleefully forecasting
fireballs and massive explosions and other forms of doom. Doesn't do
anything to promote aviation safety or public good will towards aviation
in general when you do that.

> Everyone do yourself a favor, and kill file this bozo. He comes around
> about once a week with a new sensational video, linking through his page, so
> he will get advertisement revenue. He uses various screen names, and spams
> all of the aviation groups.

If you guys really want to view educational aviation videos, often
accompanied by expert commentary, see our aviation video page.

Here's our link to the same Jet Blue video:
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2005_9_22_JetBlue.wmv

In addition, here's a link to some expert commentary on this incident:
http://alexisparkinn.com/airbus_nosegear.htm

And here's a link to some photos from this incident:
http://alexisparkinn.com/nose_gear_incident.htm

Unlike "train wreck" video sites, I strive to make sure that each
aviation video is presented so that we, as pilots, might actually LEARN
something from watching them. See several HUNDRED aviation videos --
all contributed by fellow pilots and aviation enthusiasts -- at our
site, http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

very old news..

"Lufthansi" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> This is great footage from the landing of a Jet-Airplane by JET BLUE
> with Landing-Gear Problems. The Landing-Gear is positioned sideways. It
> is amazing to me what this tires and axles can withstand without
> falling apart and the pilot is doing a great job too :
> http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aircraft3.html
>

"Bob Martin" > wrote

> Good, calm action by the flight crew made it almost a non-event.
> Unfortunately, video coverage and the fact that it was in LA meant that
> all the talking heads on the networks spent hours gleefully forecasting
> fireballs and massive explosions and other forms of doom. Doesn't do
> anything to promote aviation safety or public good will towards aviation
> in general when you do that.

Everyone do yourself a favor, and kill file this bozo. He comes around
about once a week with a new sensational video, linking through his page, so
he will get advertisement revenue. He uses various screen names, and spams
all of the aviation groups.
--
Jim in NC

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> If you guys really want to view educational aviation videos, often
> accompanied by expert commentary, see our aviation video page.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, kill file this bozo, too he is the scourge af all there is,
aviation......

Oh, wait a minute, it's you, Jay !!! <VBG>
Ignore that last comment!The doctors say it is the pregnazone talking <g>
_______________________________

> Unlike "train wreck" video sites, I strive to make sure that each
> aviation video is presented so that we, as pilots, might actually LEARN
> something from watching them. See several HUNDRED aviation videos --
> all contributed by fellow pilots and aviation enthusiasts -- at our
> site, http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
_______________________________

Yep, even though a few people have objected in the past, most will agree
that his videos are presented with plenty of warning, when graphic.
Unfortunately, sometimes we have to see terrible things, so we can learn,
and learn to avoid.
--
Jim in NC

"> > Yeah, kill file this bozo, too he is the scourge af all there is,
> > aviation......
> >
> > Oh, wait a minute, it's you, Jay !!! <VBG>
> > Ignore that last comment!The doctors say it is the pregnazone talking
<g>
>
> Well, actually "jumpingpixels" ISN'T me, so feel free to kill file him,
> if you wish. My only point is that there ARE valid, non-commercial
> aviation video websites out there. Well, at least one, anyway...

Yeah, I know. I was just having a laugh with/at your expense, but I hope I
didn't confuse anyone.

My only regret at reading/surfing your pages, is that I know I can never get
through it all, although I think I have come close.

Ennui preps for OSH. I'll not get there, due to my back. I will not be
having surgery this summer, as too much of it has gone by without getting
the recovery started before school starts again. As is, I still don't (and
the doctors, also) what is going to happen and when, but there is no way I
could stand the travel to get there, or even sitting on top of PMC II. How
I will deal with a full school workday is beyond my comprehension.
--
Jim in NC

> Ennui preps for OSH. I'll not get there, due to my back. I will not be
> having surgery this summer, as too much of it has gone by without getting
> the recovery started before school starts again. As is, I still don't (and
> the doctors, also) what is going to happen and when, but there is no way I
> could stand the travel to get there, or even sitting on top of PMC II. How
> I will deal with a full school workday is beyond my comprehension.

I'm sorry to hear it, Jim. You seem to be caught between a rock and a
hard place, if it's too late in the year for an operation that might
make working in the fall possible? That's a pretty bad spot to be in.

And if you can't sit on PMC II, or even drive, how in the world can you
expect to teach?

You might check out this month's Flying magazine, and read Dick Karl's
column. (Karl is the guy that owns a Cheyenne.) He discusses his own
medical problems with a bad back, which sound nearly as nasty as yours.
He's apparently received some relief with pain therapy and some bed
rest.

We'll drink a toast to "The Jims" this year -- Weir, Morgan, and Fisher
-- all AWOL, but not forgotten...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> And if you can't sit on PMC II, or even drive, how in the world can you
> expect to teach?

Grit and determination, and knowing the end of each day is near. The rock
and a hard place is right. I can't afford to not work, and lose my medical,
that is the one biggest fact, plus earning a living.
>
> You might check out this month's Flying magazine, and read Dick Karl's
> column. (Karl is the guy that owns a Cheyenne.) He discusses his own
> medical problems with a bad back, which sound nearly as nasty as yours.
> He's apparently received some relief with pain therapy and some bed

I'l look at that. I am already going with pain therapy, but have gone
through all of the injections, and even done a long course of accupuncture.
I am getting mostly bed rest this summer, but it is not enough. If I were
to go through an operation now, I would not have sick leave enough, ond lose
pay and possibly lose my medical and job. Rock, meet hard place.

>
> We'll drink a toast to "The Jims" this year -- Weir, Morgan, and Fisher
> -- all AWOL, but not forgotten...

Thanks. That really means something., :-))
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
> "> > Yeah, kill file this bozo, too he is the scourge af all there is,
>
>>>aviation......
>>>
>>>Oh, wait a minute, it's you, Jay !!! <VBG>
>>> Ignore that last comment!The doctors say it is the pregnazone talking
>
> <g>
>
>>Well, actually "jumpingpixels" ISN'T me, so feel free to kill file him,
>>if you wish. My only point is that there ARE valid, non-commercial
>>aviation video websites out there. Well, at least one, anyway...
>
>
> Yeah, I know. I was just having a laugh with/at your expense, but I hope I
> didn't confuse anyone.
>
> My only regret at reading/surfing your pages, is that I know I can never get
> through it all, although I think I have come close.
>
> Ennui preps for OSH. I'll not get there, due to my back. I will not be
> having surgery this summer, as too much of it has gone by without getting
> the recovery started before school starts again. As is, I still don't (and
> the doctors, also) what is going to happen and when, but there is no way I
> could stand the travel to get there, or even sitting on top of PMC II. How
> I will deal with a full school workday is beyond my comprehension.
Jim, You know what all those sick days you probably have laying around
are for? It's for stuff like this!

Margy

Morgans wrote:
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote
>
> > And if you can't sit on PMC II, or even drive, how in the world can you
> > expect to teach?
>
> Grit and determination, and knowing the end of each day is near. The rock
> and a hard place is right. I can't afford to not work, and lose my medical,
> that is the one biggest fact, plus earning a living.
> >
> > You might check out this month's Flying magazine, and read Dick Karl's
> > column. (Karl is the guy that owns a Cheyenne.) He discusses his own
> > medical problems with a bad back, which sound nearly as nasty as yours.
> > He's apparently received some relief with pain therapy and some bed
>
> I'l look at that. I am already going with pain therapy, but have gone
> through all of the injections, and even done a long course of accupuncture.
> I am getting mostly bed rest this summer, but it is not enough. If I were
> to go through an operation now, I would not have sick leave enough, ond lose
> pay and possibly lose my medical and job. Rock, meet hard place.
>
> >
> > We'll drink a toast to "The Jims" this year -- Weir, Morgan, and Fisher
> > -- all AWOL, but not forgotten...
>
> Thanks. That really means something., :-))
> --
> Jim in NC

Hey teach! To add to Jay's suggestion, maybe you might try
accupuncture. I know it sounds "out there", but I've tried it and it
works. Don't go expecting it to cure anything though. It is only a
temporary relief not a cure, good for one to three days depending on
your reception to the treatment and the expertise of your practitioner.

I have a very severe neck and back ache, and at times it is unbarable.
That's when I get my treament. I've tried physical, massage and what's
that other therapy where they stretch and bend you into contortions?
None seemed to work on me. I refuse operation and my doctor doesn't
believe my pain is real anyways.

Be careful with the Chinese guys, I hear they tend to overcharge.

Give it a try...

Monk

Morgans wrote:

> Any treatment or possible non surgery cure you can name, I have done. Still
> no relief. Sigh. :-((

Sorry to hear that...

Monk

"Flyingmonk" > wrote

> Hey teach! To add to Jay's suggestion, maybe you might try
> accupuncture.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

I went to a full MD acupuncturist, for about 7 months, two times a week.
She said that I had her using more needles than any other patient she had
ever had. She even had to buy a new electric stimulator box, to hook all of
them up.

It helped, but the relief was not all that great, and very temporary.

Any treatment or possible non surgery cure you can name, I have done. Still
no relief. Sigh. :-((
--
Jim in NC

>>>>> "Luft" == Lufthansi > writes:

Luft> This is great footage from the landing of a Jet-Airplane by
Luft> JET BLUE with Landing-Gear Problems.

In other recent news, President Bush wins re-election and the Bosox
win the world series.

"Margy Natalie" > wrote

> Jim, You know what all those sick days you probably have laying around
> are for? It's for stuff like this!

I have 2 1/2 days on record. I wish I did have some more, but used them
all up 2 years ago for recovery from fusion. I can't get ahead, because of
appointments, days where I really can't answer the bell, or tests.

By the by, I'll be coming to see your Air and Space annex, next month. I'll
spend the whole day there, the 14th. I can't wait! Will you be around?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
> "Margy Natalie" > wrote
>
>
>>Jim, You know what all those sick days you probably have laying around
>>are for? It's for stuff like this!
>
>
> I have 2 1/2 days on record. I wish I did have some more, but used them
> all up 2 years ago for recovery from fusion. I can't get ahead, because of
> appointments, days where I really can't answer the bell, or tests.
>
> By the by, I'll be coming to see your Air and Space annex, next month. I'll
> spend the whole day there, the 14th. I can't wait! Will you be around?
****er, I'll be on a plane to Denver to drive cross county with my
daughter (the one who wanted to drive back, in her clunker, alone,
camping! Mommy didn't like the idea).

Scott Crossfield will be interred into Arlington Cemetery on the 15th
at 1. I hate to miss his funeral.

Have fun at the museum. It's GREAT! Recent additions include the P-61
and Global Flyer. If your back hurts, trade your driver's license for a
wheelchair. The floor is BRUTAL on feet, knees, hips and backs (13
inches of uncovered concrete).

Margy

Morgans wrote:
> "Margy Natalie" > wrote
>
>
>>****er, I'll be on a plane to Denver to drive cross county with my
>>daughter (the one who wanted to drive back, in her clunker, alone,
>>camping! Mommy didn't like the idea).
>
>
> Sorry about that. I'll catch you the next time, as long as you continue to
> make yourself "invaluable." <g>
>
I'm working on it, I'm currently, official, unemployed, but ...
I should know something after OSH.

>>Have fun at the museum. It's GREAT! Recent additions include the P-61
>>and Global Flyer. If your back hurts, trade your driver's license for a
>>wheelchair. The floor is BRUTAL on feet, knees, hips and backs (13
>>inches of uncovered concrete).
>
>
> Thanks. I had already considered the wheelchair option. I did that once
> before, after an operation, to see some gardens with the family. Kinda'
> strange, but it helped.

Do the chair. I torqued my knee and went on a docent tour in a
wheelchair. It was great for training the docent :-).
>
> Save a place for me, down in antique, for next year, OK? I hope I'll get to
> do OSH next year, and I plan to be working somewhere different than my
> previous gig.

Rolunteering in Vintage? Hmmm, I could train you in Ops and take some
time off or maybe by next summer you would be ready for the motor bikes
and parking, hmmmmm.

Hope you feel better and get the back fixed up.

Margy

"Margy Natalie" > wrote

> ****er, I'll be on a plane to Denver to drive cross county with my
> daughter (the one who wanted to drive back, in her clunker, alone,
> camping! Mommy didn't like the idea).

Sorry about that. I'll catch you the next time, as long as you continue to
make yourself "invaluable." <g>

> Have fun at the museum. It's GREAT! Recent additions include the P-61
> and Global Flyer. If your back hurts, trade your driver's license for a
> wheelchair. The floor is BRUTAL on feet, knees, hips and backs (13
> inches of uncovered concrete).

Thanks. I had already considered the wheelchair option. I did that once
before, after an operation, to see some gardens with the family. Kinda'
strange, but it helped.

Save a place for me, down in antique, for next year, OK? I hope I'll get to
do OSH next year, and I plan to be working somewhere different than my
previous gig.
--
Jim in NC

"Margy Natalie" > wrote

> I'm working on it, I'm currently, official, unemployed, but ...
> I should know something after OSH.

I can't even begin to tell you how sorry I am to hear that. I know it was
your dream job. I hope something as good or better turns up, as hard as
that is to imagine. You deserve the best.

Yeah, next year, we'll see. I can well imagine it taking a year or two to
get up to speed. One year, you'll see that I am a terror on a bike! <g>
--
Jim in NC