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Jay Honeck
July 17th 06, 04:45 AM
Mary and I (and kids) just returned from the Milwaukee Air Show, where
we spent a couple of fun days with Jim & Tami Burns (and kids).

We had a GREAT time. It was a very good show, although the heat and
humidity were absolutely brutal. With temperatures approaching 100
degrees, and high dew points, it was sometimes hard to remember how
great a time we were having -- but (other than a little sunburn) we all
came through it unscathed, thanks to Jim supplying a few dozen ice-cold
bottles of water and pop!

Thanks also to this group's own ViperDoc, who kindly volunteered to
park Atlas (our Cherokee 235) inside his awesome hangar overnight!
With ample room for his Extra 300, his Baron, and Atlas (plus a couple
of other planes, if he really wanted to try), his hangar ranks up there
as one of the best I've ever seen. It's heated and air conditioned,
has a full kitchen, living room, office, and game room! I felt
terrible when one of our tip-tank quick drains dripped that nasty blue
avgas onto his pristine hangar floor overnight...

The airshow, complete with Thunderbirds, the Red Barons, and Sean D.
Tucker (among many others) was excellent -- and FREE! Well, we DID
pay $15 to park, but that's not outrageous when you consider there was
no admission at all for a 2-day lakefront airshow. Let's hope it
continues as an annual Milwaukee tradition in the future.

And, of course, while we were in Milwaukee we toured the Sprecher
brewery, makers of our favorite beer in the world -- and enjoyed it
immensely. If you're ever in Milwaukee, check them out -- the tour is
a whopping $3, and you get four of their fabulous beers to taste, plus
a free beer glass. (Plus you can taste as much of their excellent
sodas as you can stand, free...)

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

vlado
July 17th 06, 05:41 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> Mary and I (and kids) just returned from the Milwaukee Air Show, where
> we spent a couple of fun days with Jim & Tami Burns (and kids).
>
> We had a GREAT time. It was a very good show, although the heat and
> humidity were absolutely brutal. With temperatures approaching 100
> degrees, and high dew points, it was sometimes hard to remember how
> great a time we were having -- but (other than a little sunburn) we all
> came through it unscathed, thanks to Jim supplying a few dozen ice-cold
> bottles of water and pop!
>
> Thanks also to this group's own ViperDoc, who kindly volunteered to
> park Atlas (our Cherokee 235) inside his awesome hangar overnight!
> With ample room for his Extra 300, his Baron, and Atlas (plus a couple
> of other planes, if he really wanted to try), his hangar ranks up there
> as one of the best I've ever seen. It's heated and air conditioned,
> has a full kitchen, living room, office, and game room! I felt
> terrible when one of our tip-tank quick drains dripped that nasty blue
> avgas onto his pristine hangar floor overnight...
>
> The airshow, complete with Thunderbirds, the Red Barons, and Sean D.
> Tucker (among many others) was excellent -- and FREE! Well, we DID
> pay $15 to park, but that's not outrageous when you consider there was
> no admission at all for a 2-day lakefront airshow. Let's hope it
> continues as an annual Milwaukee tradition in the future.
>
> And, of course, while we were in Milwaukee we toured the Sprecher
> brewery, makers of our favorite beer in the world -- and enjoyed it
> immensely. If you're ever in Milwaukee, check them out -- the tour is
> a whopping $3, and you get four of their fabulous beers to taste, plus
> a free beer glass. (Plus you can taste as much of their excellent
> sodas as you can stand, free...)
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Say again, were you parked at Mitchell overnight?
The show planes were all staging from Signature.
VL

Jay Honeck
July 17th 06, 06:23 AM
> Say again, were you parked at Mitchell overnight?
> The show planes were all staging from Signature.

We were in Waukesha (KUES), parked in ViperDoc's hangar.

Hey -- was that you doing the Air Force Heritage Flight today, Vlado?
We didn't have a program, and couldn't quite make out the name on the
Mustang?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

July 17th 06, 06:50 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> Thanks also to this group's own ViperDoc, who kindly volunteered to
> park Atlas (our Cherokee 235) inside his awesome hangar overnight!
> With ample room for his Extra 300, his Baron, and Atlas (plus a couple
> of other planes, if he really wanted to try), his hangar ranks up there
> as one of the best I've ever seen. It's heated and air conditioned,
> has a full kitchen, living room, office, and game room! I felt
> terrible when one of our tip-tank quick drains dripped that nasty blue
> avgas onto his pristine hangar floor overnight...

How many square feet would you say that hangar is? Here in AZ, where it
was 112° this weekend, an air-conditioned hangar would be paradise! I
washed and waxed my airplane this weekend, drinking about 4 bottles of
water during that process as you can well imagine what the hangar feels
like when it is 112° outside ... and my hangar is on the shady side of
the taxiway in the afternoon! New hangars at our airport, selling for
$178K (!) have plumbing for a sink/bathroom, and enough room to build an
office inside if you only house one airplane, but none are big enough to
house more than two airplanes. I'd love to have one like you described.

Larry Dighera
July 17th 06, 03:21 PM
On 16 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in om>::

>I felt terrible when one of our tip-tank quick drains dripped that nasty blue
>avgas onto his pristine hangar floor overnight...

You've got to get a supply of the little O-rings for the tank drains
(can't recall their proper name). It's a very simple and quick matter
to replace damaged seals. But, I'm sure you knew that.

Not only are leaks costing you money, and staining everything dripping
fuel comes in contact with, but the fire hazard is objectionable as
well.

Jim Burns[_1_]
July 17th 06, 04:07 PM
What a great weekend!
Great friends, great beer, great food, and great airplanes! The only thing
that could have made it better, for our family, would have been if we could
have flown, but the Aztec had just returned the prior evening from a 7 day
trip. Without a thorough post flight and pre fight, I wouldn't have been
comfortable just jumping in and going. Besides, driving gave us a ground
vehicle and air-conditioning!

This is the second year in a row that we've attended the Milwaukee Airshow,
and the second year in a row that the temperatures make you wonder if you've
lost your mind. But at least this year there was the occasional breeze and
the occasional well tanned bikini clad roller blader made things bearable.
This morning we can each can see the spots that we missed with the
sunscreen. It looks like my wife took a hot iron to my right elbow.

I'd forgotten to print out the airshow lineup, so we were forced to figure
out the acts by prior knowledge. One act that none of us had seen before was
Sean D. Tucker in a Columbia doing things, well, that I'm sure no other
Columbia pilot has done with his airplane. Truly amazing, as was his
performance in the Challenger. Thanks again goes to Viperdoc for filling us
in on just what we had witnessed.

And that Viperdoc hanger! Wow. Every pilot's dream. A pretty tempting way
to go seriously in debt!

Thanks Jay & Mary, we had a blast. Thanks Viperdoc for your graciousness
and hospitality, I'm sure that Jay's Atlas retained an AMU or two due to
your beautiful hanger.

What a great forerunner to OSH! I'm sure we'll do it again next year!
Jim

john smith
July 17th 06, 05:09 PM
In article >,
"Jim Burns" > wrote:

> One act that none of us had seen before was
> Sean D. Tucker in a Columbia doing things, well, that I'm sure no other
> Columbia pilot has done with his airplane. Truly amazing, as was his
> performance in the Challenger.

Not even Gene Soucy in the Mooney? (Did you forget that one?)

Jim Burns[_1_]
July 17th 06, 05:48 PM
I never got to see Gene in the Mooney. And I don't think any of us had seen
an acro act with a Lancair or Columbia.
Jim

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Jim Burns" > wrote:
>
> > One act that none of us had seen before was
> > Sean D. Tucker in a Columbia doing things, well, that I'm sure no other
> > Columbia pilot has done with his airplane. Truly amazing, as was his
> > performance in the Challenger.
>
> Not even Gene Soucy in the Mooney? (Did you forget that one?)

john smith
July 17th 06, 06:04 PM
> > > One act that none of us had seen before was Sean D. Tucker in a
> > > Columbia doing things, well, that I'm sure no other Columbia pilot
> > > has done with his airplane. Truly amazing, as was his performance
> > > in the Challenger.

> > Not even Gene Soucy in the Mooney? (Did you forget that one?)

> I never got to see Gene in the Mooney. And I don't think any of us had seen
> an acro act with a Lancair or Columbia.

I guess I find it more interesting than facinating watching aerobatic
maneuvers preformed in a production airplane. Remember that the pilot is
a highly skilled aerobatic pilot who is fully cognizant of the both the
aircraft's and his own limitations.
Now, if the announcer were to say something like, "And now (insert
usegroup participant name) will demonstrate the Columbia's aerobatic
capabilities!", my response would be, "This is going to be REAL
interesting... at least for a couple of seconds." :-)

Viperdoc[_1_]
July 17th 06, 10:40 PM
Thanks for the kind words- too bad we couldn't hang out and drink some beer.
Yes, it was Vlado flying in the mustang. He and I met at the Friday
reception, where we debated whether to stay and try to finish off the free
beer (Bass and Beck's).

Also, thanks again for stopping by. You are always welcome.

Jay Honeck
July 17th 06, 11:08 PM
> Thanks for the kind words- too bad we couldn't hang out and drink some beer.

Boy, isn't that the truth! Of course, after being out in the hot sun
all day, two beers would have totally cashed me in. Maybe you and your
wife can come visit us here in Iowa City, and we'll take you to our
favorite microbrewery!

> Yes, it was Vlado flying in the mustang. He and I met at the Friday
> reception, where we debated whether to stay and try to finish off the free
> beer (Bass and Beck's).

Dang. I wish I had known that was Vlado flying. Do you know who was
flying the Corsair in the Navy Heritage Flight?

> Also, thanks again for stopping by. You are always welcome.

Again, Mary and I really appreciate the hospitality. It was really
nice not to worry about leaving Atlas out on a strange ramp, waiting
for a hail storm...

;-)

Hope to see you at OSH!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
July 17th 06, 11:14 PM
> Now, if the announcer were to say something like, "And now (insert
> usegroup participant name) will demonstrate the Columbia's aerobatic
> capabilities!", my response would be, "This is going to be REAL
> interesting... at least for a couple of seconds." :-)

That WOULD be fun.

I think what made the Columbia's performance more interesting was the
incredibly hot conditions, and resulting high density altitudes.
Climbing out of Waukesha later on, when it had cooled down some, Atlas
-- normally pretty sprightly, with those 235 horses -- was huffing and
puffing, and it took FOREVER to get to 6500 feet.

Knowing how degraded the engine performance was really made the
Columbia's exhibition all the more impressive. Tucker really racked
that thing around!

(On a side note, we saw Tucker perform his regular routine at Reno, in
his Oracle plane, and were struck by how he had to change his routine
to take the altitude into account. He even commented on this during
his routine.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Viperdoc[_1_]
July 18th 06, 12:12 AM
The corsair was flown by a non-owner pilot. The plane belongs to a museum in
Iowa (I think). We also spoke for a few minutes. It was great hanging around
in the FBO shooting the breeze with the airshow performers like Sean Tucker
and Carol Pilon (Thirdstrike wingwalkers- check the website). I had flown in
contests with a few of the performers in the past, and had met several
others from previous years, so it was a great opportunity to do some hangar
flying.

I guess I'll have to drink all of the beer by myself now.

JN

john smith
July 18th 06, 12:33 AM
In article m>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> (On a side note, we saw Tucker perform his regular routine at Reno, in
> his Oracle plane, and were struck by how he had to change his routine
> to take the altitude into account. He even commented on this during
> his routine.)

And that, as Viperdoc will tell you, is what makes the difference
between the averaage acro competitor and the winners.

Jack Allison[_1_]
July 18th 06, 02:50 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> Thanks also to this group's own ViperDoc, who kindly volunteered to
> park Atlas (our Cherokee 235) inside his awesome hangar overnight!
> With ample room for his Extra 300, his Baron, and Atlas (plus a couple
> of other planes, if he really wanted to try), his hangar ranks up there
> as one of the best I've ever seen. It's heated and air conditioned,
> has a full kitchen, living room, office, and game room! I felt
> terrible when one of our tip-tank quick drains dripped that nasty blue
> avgas onto his pristine hangar floor overnight...

Atlas was just marking his territory :-)





--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
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Viperdoc[_1_]
July 18th 06, 03:00 AM
Is this why Jay also walked into a corner of the hangar and lifted his leg?

Jim Burns
July 18th 06, 03:25 AM
Well, they say that dogs often look like their owners, but I haven't heard
it said that pilots act like their airplanes! You may be onto something!!
Jim

"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
...
> Is this why Jay also walked into a corner of the hangar and lifted his
> leg?
>
>
>

Jay Honeck
July 18th 06, 04:39 AM
> Well, they say that dogs often look like their owners, but I haven't heard
> it said that pilots act like their airplanes! You may be onto something!!

> > Is this why Jay also walked into a corner of the hangar and lifted his
> > leg?

Ha! I *wish* my territory looked like your hangar! I'd never go
home...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
July 18th 06, 04:40 AM
> I guess I'll have to drink all of the beer by myself now.

Heck, no -- you can come help drink ours! We've got a barrel of our
local microbrew on tap this Saturday...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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