--Why should you have charts on board? And can you fly without them?
--What would you do if you come to the end of your clearance limit, and
you are unable to contact ATC? (ATC is still online, just not answering
->you<-)

wrote:
> --Why should you have charts on board? And can you fly without them?
> --What would you do if you come to the end of your clearance limit, and
> you are unable to contact ATC? (ATC is still online, just not answering
> ->you<-)

You can fly without charts. But unless you can memorize all the
relevant information, you should carry one with you.

If ATC is not answering you, try a different COM radio, different
frequency or try calling FSS. Try calling on a cell phone. If none of
them work, squawk 7600, hold at your clearance limit until your EFC and
then proceed to your destination.

wrote:
> --Why should you have charts on board? And can you fly without them?
> --What would you do if you come to the end of your clearance limit, and
> you are unable to contact ATC? (ATC is still online, just not answering
> ->you<-)

One reason to have charts on board is the requirement in part 91.103
pre-flight planning and becoming knowlegable with all the available
information. I may be wrong, but if you get ramp checked and do not
have the required charts I beleive you could be in violation of part
91. This would ruin your whole day.

Stache

> wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> --Why should you have charts on board?
>

Because it's easier than memorizing the data on them.


>
> And can you fly without them?
>

Yes.


>
> --What would you do if you come to the end of your clearance limit, and
> you are unable to contact ATC? (ATC is still online, just not answering
> ->you<-)
>

Enter a hold at the clearance limit and continue to call them. They'll
answer eventually.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>
>>--Why should you have charts on board?
>>
>
>
> Because it's easier than memorizing the data on them.
>
>
>
>>And can you fly without them?
>>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
>>--What would you do if you come to the end of your clearance limit, and
>>you are unable to contact ATC? (ATC is still online, just not answering
>>->you<-)
>>
>
>
> Enter a hold at the clearance limit and continue to call them. They'll
> answer eventually.

They may even call you! :-)

Matt

Stache wrote:
I may be wrong, but if you get ramp checked and do not
> have the required charts I beleive you could be in violation of part
> 91.

You would not be in violation.

Stache wrote:
> wrote:
> > --Why should you have charts on board? And can you fly without them?
> > --What would you do if you come to the end of your clearance limit, and
> > you are unable to contact ATC? (ATC is still online, just not answering
> > ->you<-)
>
> One reason to have charts on board is the requirement in part 91.103
> pre-flight planning and becoming knowlegable with all the available
> information. I may be wrong, but if you get ramp checked and do not
> have the required charts I beleive you could be in violation of part
> 91. This would ruin your whole day.
>
> Stache

No you don't need a chart. "Become familiar" does not equate to "carry
a chart" any more than "carry a chart" equates to "becoming familiar".

Take the ramp check scenario. If you had just landed, the inspector
could ask "did you have all the relavent information?". The answer
would be "of course, otherwise I could not completed the flight without
violating any regulations". End of story.

Take another scenario. The inspector asks "you flew threw a TFR. Did
you have all the relevant information for the flight?". Waving a valid
chart is not going to help you here.

Charts are for your flight planning and navigational purposes. The FAA
does not care about it.

On 13 Aug 2006 08:05:16 -0700, wrote in
om>:

>--Why should you have charts on board?

Do you mean, if you are GPS equipped, why do you need paper charts?