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Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
January 20th 08, 01:01 AM
"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
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> On Jan 19, 4:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> innews:128bed28-2d81-40c5-a854-

>> om:
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>>
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>> > On Jan 19, 5:55 am, "Dean A. Markley" >
>> > wrote:
>> >> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>> >> > On Jan 18, 5:10 am, Eunometic > wrote:
>> >> >> On Jan 18, 1:23 pm, "Dean A. Markley" >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> > ...
>> >> >>> Can you provide me with a patent number? I am curious now.
>> >> >>> For what its worth, nitrates, chlorates and permanganates do
>> >> >>> not "release" oxygen when they burn. Its a rather more
>> >> >>> complex oxidation/reduction process that does not directly
>> >> >>> involve molecular oxygen.
>>
>> >> >> Basically looks like the chemistry of explosives; you could
>> >> >> use oxygen in compressed form or as hydrogen peroxide but its a
>> >> >> bit difficult to store.
>>
>> >> > Saltpeter (KNO3), is a safe juvenile oxidizer used
>> >> > frequently by rocketry experimentalists, such as,
>> >> >http://sugarshot.org/
>>
>> >> > In a molten state it is very dangerous, by combusting
>> >> > any fuel it comes into contact with, if it's hot enough.
>> >> > I/we had a rocketry club as kids in the early 70's, and
>> >> > used that propellant (Sugar-Saltpeter).
>> >> > Regards
>> >> > Ken
>>
>> >> I had a chuckle reading that Ken! I am the kid who at age 9,
>> >> tried to make molten sugar/saltpeter rocket propellant on the
>> >> kitchen stove. I filled the house with smoke, burned a pan and
>> >> got a sore ass. Dean
>>
>> > You'd have to be pretty bright to even try that
>> > experiment at age 9. (I was using match heads
>> > and pulling wicks out of firecrackers at that age)
>>
>> Wow, you were a geenyus.
>> Bertie
>
> We used a hot-plate outside to cook the fuel.
> One dork , (like bertie) comes by smokin on
> a breezy day, we told him to **** off, well
> **** an ember off his smoke blows into a hot
> melt...poof, the dang pot load went off in 1-2
> seconds and shot 10-20 feet up in flames.
> Singed the eyebrows off the cooker.
>
> Actually we had laff about that, but we banned
> the air-head, (nerdy berty type) from ever doing
> any rocketry, hey he was FIRED, get it?




Yeh, a bucnh of guys playing with Estes rockets harrasing nerds....


Ya see it every day.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
January 20th 08, 02:44 AM
Rob Arndt > wrote in
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> On Jan 19, 5:01�pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> innews:1f41f6b8-77ba-44eb-b3
> :
>>
>> > On Jan 19, 4:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> >> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> >> innews:128bed28-2d81-40c5-a854-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> om:
>>
>> >> > On Jan 19, 5:55 am, "Dean A. Markley" >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>> >> >> > On Jan 18, 5:10 am, Eunometic > wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Jan 18, 1:23 pm, "Dean A. Markley"
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >>> Can you provide me with a patent number? �I am curious n
> ow.
>> >> >> >>> For what its worth, nitrates, chlorates and permanganates
>> >> >> >>> do not "release" oxygen when they burn. �Its a rather
>> >> >> >>> more complex oxidation/reduction process that does not
>> >> >> >>> directly involve molecular oxygen.
>>
>> >> >> >> Basically looks like the chemistry of explosives; �you co
> uld
>> >> >> >> use oxygen in compressed form or as hydrogen peroxide but
>> >> >> >> its a bit difficult to store.
>>
>> >> >> > Saltpeter (KNO3), is a safe juvenile oxidizer used
>> >> >> > frequently by rocketry experimentalists, such as,
>> >> >> >http://sugarshot.org/
>>
>> >> >> > In a molten state it is very dangerous, by combusting
>> >> >> > any fuel it comes into contact with, if it's hot enough.
>> >> >> > I/we had a rocketry club as kids in the early 70's, and
>> >> >> > used that propellant (Sugar-Saltpeter).
>> >> >> > Regards
>> >> >> > Ken
>>
>> >> >> I had a chuckle reading that Ken! �I am the kid who at age 9
> ,
>> >> >> tried to make molten sugar/saltpeter rocket propellant on the
>> >> >> kitchen stove. �I filled the house with smoke, burned a pan
> and
>> >> >> got a sore ass. Dean
>>
>> >> > You'd have to be pretty bright to even try that
>> >> > experiment at age 9. (I was using match heads
>> >> > and pulling wicks out of firecrackers at that age)
>>
>> >> Wow, you were a geenyus.
>> >> Bertie
>>
>> > We used a hot-plate outside to cook the fuel.
>> > One dork , (like bertie) comes by smokin on
>> > a breezy day, we told him to **** off, well
>> > **** an ember off his smoke blows into a hot
>> > melt...poof, the dang pot load went off in 1-2
>> > seconds and shot 10-20 feet up in flames.
>> > � Singed the eyebrows off the cooker.
>>
>> > Actually we had laff about that, but we banned
>> > the air-head, (nerdy berty type) from ever doing
>> > any rocketry, hey he was FIRED, get it?
>>
>> Yeh, a bucnh of guys playing with Estes rockets harrasing nerds....
>>
>> Ya see it every day.
>>
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Bertie

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