I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR Routes
from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at one time but
don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below 10,000MSL.



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On Apr 1, 11:01 am, "Sam Boyer" > wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR Routes
> from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at one time but
> don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below 10,000MSL.
>
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There are Victor airways on IFR charts you can use to get an idea of
the lowest routes through mountainous areas, though VFR does not have
to abide by MEAs.


Dan Mc

Sam Boyer wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
> 10,000MSL.

I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS

MikeMl wrote:
> Sam Boyer wrote:
>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
>> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
>> 10,000MSL.
>
> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS

What max altitude MSL for that route?

On Apr 1, 11:50 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
wrote:
> MikeMl wrote:
> > Sam Boyer wrote:
> >> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
> >> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
> >> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
> >> 10,000MSL.
>
> > I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>
> What max altitude MSL for that route?

Those are interstate Highways...

Dan wrote:
> On Apr 1, 11:50 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
> wrote:
>> MikeMl wrote:
>>> Sam Boyer wrote:
>>>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>>>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
>>>> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
>>>> 10,000MSL.
>>> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>> What max altitude MSL for that route?
>
> Those are interstate Highways...

I understand. And in order to fly at X feet AGL I need to know what GL
is. Last time I checked we express that in feet above MSL.

On Apr 1, 12:00 pm, Gig 601Xl Builder >
wrote:

>
> I understand. And in order to fly at X feet AGL I need to know what GL
> is. Last time I checked we express that in feet above MSL.

It wasn't apparent you were going along with the "I80 to SLC"
recommendation...

That's my Oshkosh route on I-80, at least to Iowa City. You can do it at
8.5, but 10.5 feels a HELL of a lot better between Scottsbluff and Rawlins.
Can't speak to the I-15 route, but doubt that it is much higher. Instead of
I-80 between Wyoming and SLC, cut off of I-80 about 20 miles west of
Evanston WY and go across Morgan COunty airport and then direct Ogden
through Joseph?? Pass, then south over SLC to pick up I-15.

Jim

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"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
m...
> MikeMl wrote:
>> Sam Boyer wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
>>> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
>>> 10,000MSL.
>>
>> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>
> What max altitude MSL for that route?

I can get pass elevations from a Rand-McNalley road atlas.

Bob Gardner

"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
m...
> Dan wrote:
>> On Apr 1, 11:50 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
>> wrote:
>>> MikeMl wrote:
>>>> Sam Boyer wrote:
>>>>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>>>>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
>>>>> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
>>>>> 10,000MSL.
>>>> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>>> What max altitude MSL for that route?
>>
>> Those are interstate Highways...
>
> I understand. And in order to fly at X feet AGL I need to know what GL is.
> Last time I checked we express that in feet above MSL.

I believe the I-80 -> SLC then I-15 to LAS pretty much keeps you
to 9500 MSL but watch out for the MOAs around SLC.

What isn't clear is what part of the East Coast the OP is coming from.
The I-80 route is fine for the north side. But if coming from the south
part, I-10/I-20/I-40 works very well, again, with no need to go above
10.5K. Check the sectionals..

Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:
> MikeMl wrote:
>> Sam Boyer wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them
>>> at one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay
>>> below 10,000MSL.
>>
>> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>
> What max altitude MSL for that route?

I dont remember exactly, but there are only two passes where you have to
pop up anywhere close to 10K. One is South Pass in Wy, and the other is
between Ft Bridger, Wy and SLC. The route from SLC to LAS can be flown
more or less along V21, which is low except near SLC and LAS.

Dan wrote:
> On Apr 1, 12:00 pm, Gig 601Xl Builder >
> wrote:
>
>> I understand. And in order to fly at X feet AGL I need to know what GL
>> is. Last time I checked we express that in feet above MSL.
>
> It wasn't apparent you were going along with the "I80 to SLC"
> recommendation...
>
>
>

No, it's just that you've gotten in the habit of arguing with me this
week in the gun thread.


> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
What max altitude MSL for that route?

RST Engineering wrote:
> That's my Oshkosh route on I-80, at least to Iowa City. You can do it at
> 8.5, but 10.5 feels a HELL of a lot better between Scottsbluff and Rawlins.
> Can't speak to the I-15 route, but doubt that it is much higher. Instead of
> I-80 between Wyoming and SLC, cut off of I-80 about 20 miles west of
> Evanston WY and go across Morgan COunty airport and then direct Ogden
> through Joseph?? Pass, then south over SLC to pick up I-15.
>
> Jim


That might be Weber Canyon along I84. Watch out for the Hill AFB Class
D.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.102121,-111.492004&spn=0.719199,1.187897&t=p&z=10

"Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
...
>I can get pass elevations from a Rand-McNalley road atlas.
>

How about TERRAIN elevations from a sectional, or better yet, a WAC chart?

Main highway are shown on those.

> Bob Gardner
>
> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
> m...
>> Dan wrote:
>>> On Apr 1, 11:50 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
>>> wrote:
>>>> MikeMl wrote:
>>>>> Sam Boyer wrote:
>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>>>>>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay
>>>>>> below
>>>>>> 10,000MSL.
>>>>> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>>>> What max altitude MSL for that route?
>>>
>>> Those are interstate Highways...
>>
>> I understand. And in order to fly at X feet AGL I need to know what GL
>> is. Last time I checked we express that in feet above MSL.
>

Max altitude VFR 17,500MSL.. you did ask MAX
I think you mean Min VFR altitude... it's a lot higher than going south to
I-40 and ABQ.

From where on the east coast... it makes a difference how far back you go SW
to get to ABQ

BT

"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
m...
> MikeMl wrote:
>> Sam Boyer wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR
>>> Routes from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at
>>> one time but don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below
>>> 10,000MSL.
>>
>> I80 to SLC, then I15 to LAS
>
> What max altitude MSL for that route?

"Sam Boyer" > wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR Routes
>from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at one time but
>don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below 10,000MSL.

Knowing your starting point may help but look at interstates from I40
through Albuquerque NM and further south.

Ron Lee

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Ron Lee > wrote:
> "Sam Boyer" > wrote:
>
>>I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out where to get VFR Routes
>>from the East coast to Vegas? I heard the FAA published them at one time but
>>don't know if they do anymore? I would like to stay below 10,000MSL.
>
> Knowing your starting point may help but look at interstates from I40
> through Albuquerque NM and further south.
>
> Ron Lee

Depending on if he wants to go through <insert Class B airspace
here>, He could use I70 all the way through, then I15 down. But
depending on the starting point, I40 would be great. Even better, make
it a really fun trip and follow old Rte. 66, which should take him
through smaller fields, and avoid most to all Class B (Chicago
excepting) airspace, all the way to IGM, then track the BLD R-108
inbound, and set.

BL.
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"A Guy Called Tyketto" > wrote in message
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>
> Depending on if he wants to go through <insert Class B airspace
> here>, He could use I70 all the way through, then I15 down.

That would take him over the heart of the Rockies in Colorado. He wanted to
go no higher than 10K feet.

> But depending on the starting point, I40 would be great.

That seems the way to go to hold to his stated alltitude restriction.


> Even better, make
> it a really fun trip and follow old Rte. 66, which should take him
> through smaller fields

That's a thought!

On 2008-04-03, A Guy Called Tyketto > wrote:
> Depending on if he wants to go through <insert Class B airspace
> here>, He could use I70 all the way through, then I15 down.

Just make sure to avoid flying through the Eisenhower Tunnel. If you're
following an Interstate through the mountains, it's probably a Good Idea to
check the route. IIRC, the pass along US 6 that the I-70 Eisenhower Tunnel
was built to bypass is something like 11000 feet up.
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A Guy Called Tyketto > wrote:
>
> Depending on if he wants to go through <insert Class B airspace
>here>, He could use I70 all the way through, then I15 down.

Do NOT follow I-70 west of Denver. Unless, of course, you're in a
Pilatus or a twin with ceiling of 18K. About 60 miles west of Denver,
on I-70, is the Eisenhower Tunnel. The tunnel itself is at 11K, and
the mountains it runs thru (the Continental Divide and Loveland Ski
area) are 13K. And there's no way to turn around.

Feel free to follow I-70 to Denver, then turn either north or south and
follow I-25 to get around the mountains.

>But
>depending on the starting point, I40 would be great. Even better, make
>it a really fun trip and follow old Rte. 66, which should take him
>through smaller fields, and avoid most to all Class B (Chicago
>excepting) airspace, all the way to IGM, then track the BLD R-108
>inbound, and set.

Someday, I'm gonna do the Rte 66 trip. Someday.

*sigh*

>Feel free to follow I-70 to Denver, then turn either north or south and
>follow I-25 to get around the mountains.

Blanche, "getting around" means going to Albuquerque. Or at least Las
Vegas NM (LVS) to Sante Fe. Makes more sense to head more direct to
that area.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee > wrote:
>>Feel free to follow I-70 to Denver, then turn either north or south and
>>follow I-25 to get around the mountains.
>
>Blanche, "getting around" means going to Albuquerque. Or at least Las
>Vegas NM (LVS) to Sante Fe. Makes more sense to head more direct to
>that area.
>
>Ron Lee

Very true, and I agree entirely. However one of the posters here made
the comment to follow I-70 all the way to I-15 intersection (which is
in mid-Utah, I've driven this route frequently). Not a good
idea without an aircraft suitable for the route.

Personally, the only single-engine aircraft I'll fly in taking the
I-70 route would be a Pilatus or an F-16.

I've never been in a Pilatus. Might be fun!