I just saw an ad for ASL CamGuard and wonder if anyone out there has any
experiences with this product that they would like to share.

Good?

Bad?

Neither?

Is it just a detergent or a balonium-based material, or does it have
lubricating properties, such as TCP has?

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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> I just saw an ad for ASL CamGuard and wonder if anyone out there has any
> experiences with this product that they would like to share.
>
> Good?
>
> Bad?
>
> Neither?
>
> Is it just a detergent or a balonium-based material, or does it have
> lubricating properties, such as TCP has?
>


Penn Yan recommended it to me just before they got FAA approval on the
stuff. I've been using it on Penn Yan's recommendation, but I can't
tell you whether it makes a difference or not. It is supposedly at rust
inhibitor additive. I don't know that it has any lubricating
properties. The claims seem more plausible than some of the claims of
past snake oils.

>>>>> "OF" == Orval Fairbairn > writes:

OF> I just saw an ad for ASL CamGuard and wonder if anyone out
OF> there has any experiences with this product that they would
OF> like to share.

Aviation Consumer tested it favorably:

"The middle ground--and it's admittedly vast--is the 60 hour-a-year
owner who needs the airplane for three hours each December through
March. CamGuard is the clear winner here, since its performance is
nearly as good as the dedicated storage oils, it's cheaper and allows
normal operation.

Thus far, we've been impressed with CamGuard and we're using it in our
own airplane. As we go to press this month, CamGuard is on the verge
of obtaining FAA approval. Frankly, that doesn't impress us much but
some buyers want the FAA imprimatur. Approved or not, we think it's a
good product."

http://www.aviationconsumer.com/issues/36_4/maintenancematters/5541-1.html

OF> Is it just a detergent

No. Detergents aren't used in aviation engines.

OF> does it have lubricating properties, such as TCP has?

No. TCP isn't a lubricant. CamGuard is an anti-corrosion additive, not
a lubricant.
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In article >,
Bob Fry > wrote:

> >>>>> "OF" == Orval Fairbairn > writes:
>
> OF> I just saw an ad for ASL CamGuard and wonder if anyone out
> OF> there has any experiences with this product that they would
> OF> like to share.
>
> Aviation Consumer tested it favorably:
>
> "The middle ground--and it's admittedly vast--is the 60 hour-a-year
> owner who needs the airplane for three hours each December through
> March. CamGuard is the clear winner here, since its performance is
> nearly as good as the dedicated storage oils, it's cheaper and allows
> normal operation.
>
> Thus far, we've been impressed with CamGuard and we're using it in our
> own airplane. As we go to press this month, CamGuard is on the verge
> of obtaining FAA approval. Frankly, that doesn't impress us much but
> some buyers want the FAA imprimatur. Approved or not, we think it's a
> good product."
>
> http://www.aviationconsumer.com/issues/36_4/maintenancematters/5541-1.html
>
> OF> Is it just a detergent
>
> No. Detergents aren't used in aviation engines.
>
> OF> does it have lubricating properties, such as TCP has?
>
> No. TCP isn't a lubricant. CamGuard is an anti-corrosion additive, not
> a lubricant.

I want to thank everybody who responded. I may just try the stuff!

Orval

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;639886']In article ,
Bob Fry wrote:

"OF" == Orval Fairbairn writes:

OF I just saw an ad for ASL CamGuard and wonder if anyone out
OF there has any experiences with this product that they would
OF like to share.

Aviation Consumer tested it favorably:

"The middle ground--and it's admittedly vast--is the 60 hour-a-year
owner who needs the airplane for three hours each December through
March. CamGuard is the clear winner here, since its performance is
nearly as good as the dedicated storage oils, it's cheaper and allows
normal operation.

Thus far, we've been impressed with CamGuard and we're using it in our
own airplane. As we go to press this month, CamGuard is on the verge
of obtaining FAA approval. Frankly, that doesn't impress us much but
some buyers want the FAA imprimatur. Approved or not, we think it's a
good product."

http://www.aviationconsumer.com/issues/36_4/maintenancematters/5541-1.html

OF Is it just a detergent

No. Detergents aren't used in aviation engines.

OF does it have lubricating properties, such as TCP has?

No. TCP isn't a lubricant. CamGuard is an anti-corrosion additive, not
a lubricant.

I want to thank everybody who responded. I may just try the stuff!

Orval

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Camguard is conceptually the additive package that I designed for the Exxon Elite oil. It contains 11 additives and is 100% active. It prevents rust/corrosion and deposits, reduces wear and conditions seals.

I was the director of the engine laboratory at Exxon Research and Engineering
and performed the initial research on the Elite oil. Exxon management decided to copy the Aeroshell oil. When I left Exxon I was asked to formulate Camguard.

Regards,

Ed

> I was the director of the engine laboratory at Exxon Research and
> Engineering
> and performed the initial research on the Elite oil. Exxon management
> decided to copy the Aeroshell oil. When I left Exxon I was asked to
> formulate Camguard.

WOW!
If someone could get you and Ben Vissar together, that would be an
incredible forum on engine lubrication.

In article >,
Edward Kollin > wrote:

> 'Orval Fairbairn[_2_ Wrote:
> > ;639886']In article ,
> > Bob Fry wrote:
> > ---
> > "OF" == Orval Fairbairn writes:--
> >
> > OF I just saw an ad for ASL CamGuard and wonder if anyone out
> > OF there has any experiences with this product that they would
> > OF like to share.
> >
> > Aviation Consumer tested it favorably:
> >
> > "The middle ground--and it's admittedly vast--is the 60 hour-a-year
> > owner who needs the airplane for three hours each December through
> > March. CamGuard is the clear winner here, since its performance is
> > nearly as good as the dedicated storage oils, it's cheaper and allows
> > normal operation.
> >
> > Thus far, we've been impressed with CamGuard and we're using it in
> > our
> > own airplane. As we go to press this month, CamGuard is on the verge
> > of obtaining FAA approval. Frankly, that doesn't impress us much but
> > some buyers want the FAA imprimatur. Approved or not, we think it's a
> > good product."
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/6ytgnn
> >
> > OF Is it just a detergent
> >
> > No. Detergents aren't used in aviation engines.
> >
> > OF does it have lubricating properties, such as TCP has?
> >
> > No. TCP isn't a lubricant. CamGuard is an anti-corrosion additive,
> > not
> > a lubricant.-
> >
> > I want to thank everybody who responded. I may just try the stuff!
> >
> > Orval
> >
> > --
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>
> Camguard is conceptually the additive package that I designed for the
> Exxon Elite oil. It contains 11 additives and is 100% active. It
> prevents rust/corrosion and deposits, reduces wear and conditions
> seals.
>
> I was the director of the engine laboratory at Exxon Research and
> Engineering
> and performed the initial research on the Elite oil. Exxon management
> decided to copy the Aeroshell oil. When I left Exxon I was asked to
> formulate Camguard.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed

Thank you! I just received four pints and am going to put some in both
my airplane and my vintage Porsche.

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I was the director of the engine laboratory at Exxon Research and
Engineering
and performed the initial research on the Elite oil. Exxon management
decided to copy the Aeroshell oil. When I left Exxon I was asked to
formulate Camguard.

WOW!
If someone could get you and Ben Vissar together, that would be an
incredible forum on engine lubrication.

Ben is a great guy! He offered to help us with the Camguard certification.

Regards,

Ed

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Thank you! I just received four pints and am going to put some in both
my airplane and my vintage Porsche.

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Camguard is really useful for older cars, as you get a substantial corrosion inhibiting boost and anti-wear protection superior to ZDDP.