Passed my medical last week and did my BFR this afternoon.
I am good to go.
Because I am IR, the instructor test to that level of knowledge.
1.3 hours flight, 0.5 simulated instruments.

On Jul 15, 3:35*pm, John Smith > wrote:
> Passed my medical last week and did my BFR this afternoon.
> I am good to go.
> Because I am IR, the instructor test to that level of knowledge.
> 1.3 hours flight, 0.5 simulated instruments.

I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish up
my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the flight
time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't mind doing
both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA to renew the
CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:a375b9ee-43a1-4002-98e3-
:

> On Jul 15, 3:35*pm, John Smith > wrote:
>> Passed my medical last week and did my BFR this afternoon.
>> I am good to go.
>> Because I am IR, the instructor test to that level of knowledge.
>> 1.3 hours flight, 0.5 simulated instruments.
>
> I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
> the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
> was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish up
> my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the flight
> time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't mind doing
> both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA to renew the
> CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.


Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?


Bertie

>> I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
>> the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
>> was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish up
>> my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the flight
>> time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't mind doing
>> both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA to renew the
>> CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.
>
>
> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>
>
> Bertie

Bertie, what are you asking?

There is no written for the CFI renewal.. except for what ever transpires
during the FIRC, Flight Instructor Refresher Course, but it is not an FAA
Written exam.

Because the FIRC counts and the "1 hr ground" portion of the BFR, all he
really needs to do is fly with a CFI for the 61.56 endorsement.
BT

"BT" > wrote in
:

>>> I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
>>> the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
>>> was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish
>>> up my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the
>>> flight time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't
>>> mind doing both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA
>>> to renew the CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.
>>
>>
>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Bertie, what are you asking?
>
> There is no written for the CFI renewal.. except for what ever
> transpires during the FIRC, Flight Instructor Refresher Course, but it
> is not an FAA Written exam.

Well, that's the one I meant, but yeah, of course. if you're doing that,
you're not flying. I just did a CFI renewal. Since it was lang expired, I
had to do a ride and that, of course, covered me for a BFR.
>
> Because the FIRC counts and the "1 hr ground" portion of the BFR, all
> he really needs to do is fly with a CFI for the 61.56 endorsement.

Mmm, OK. I'm very rusty on a lot of that stuf, and, in fact, a lot of the
details had changed since I used to instruct, so alot of my renewal
briefing was about endorsements and what not.



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>
>
> Bertie

Like you really give a ****.

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "BT" > wrote in
> :
>
>>>> I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
>>>> the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
>>>> was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish
>>>> up my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the
>>>> flight time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't
>>>> mind doing both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA
>>>> to renew the CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.
>>>
>>>
>>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Bertie, what are you asking?
>>
>> There is no written for the CFI renewal.. except for what ever
>> transpires during the FIRC, Flight Instructor Refresher Course, but it
>> is not an FAA Written exam.
>
> Well, that's the one I meant, but yeah, of course. if you're doing that,
> you're not flying. I just did a CFI renewal. Since it was lang expired, I
> had to do a ride and that, of course, covered me for a BFR.
>>
>> Because the FIRC counts and the "1 hr ground" portion of the BFR, all
>> he really needs to do is fly with a CFI for the 61.56 endorsement.
>
> Mmm, OK. I'm very rusty on a lot of that stuf, and, in fact, a lot of the
> details had changed since I used to instruct, so alot of my renewal
> briefing was about endorsements and what not.
>
>
>

No you not, you're just trolling, dumb ass.

Good job, you sucked in BT.

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Like you really give a ****.
>

I'm a flight instructor.

You?

Bertie

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "BT" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>>> I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last
>>>>> week the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of
>>>>> days so I was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just
>>>>> have to finish up my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I
>>>>> only need the flight time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the
>>>>> ground) but I don't mind doing both if the CFI asks. I wonder if
>>>>> I'll have to use IACRA to renew the CFI or if I can still walk in
>>>>> the 8710.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Bertie, what are you asking?
>>>
>>> There is no written for the CFI renewal.. except for what ever
>>> transpires during the FIRC, Flight Instructor Refresher Course, but
>>> it is not an FAA Written exam.
>>
>> Well, that's the one I meant, but yeah, of course. if you're doing
>> that, you're not flying. I just did a CFI renewal. Since it was lang
>> expired, I had to do a ride and that, of course, covered me for a
>> BFR.
>>>
>>> Because the FIRC counts and the "1 hr ground" portion of the BFR,
>>> all he really needs to do is fly with a CFI for the 61.56
>>> endorsement.
>>
>> Mmm, OK. I'm very rusty on a lot of that stuf, and, in fact, a lot of
>> the details had changed since I used to instruct, so alot of my
>> renewal briefing was about endorsements and what not.
>>
>>
>>
>
> No you not, you're just trolling, dumb ass.

Awww, someone's grumpy!


>
> Good job, you sucked in BT.


Did I now? What's BT?

Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...

>
>
> Did I now? What's BT?
>
> Bertie

Duh, gee I wonder?

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
> @newsfe24.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Like you really give a ****.
>>
>
> I'm a flight instructor.
>
> You?
>

could give a **** less, about what you claim.

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:komfk.20627$%q.3919
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>
>> Did I now? What's BT?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Duh, gee I wonder?
>
>
>

See?, admitting you're an idiot is the first step.

Bertie

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:komfk.20628$%q.2834
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
>> @newsfe24.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Like you really give a ****.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a flight instructor.
>>
>> You?
>>
>
> could give a **** less, about what you claim.
>

Awwww. :(


I'm hurt


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:komfk.20627$%q.3919
> @newsfe24.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did I now? What's BT?
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Duh, gee I wonder?
>>
>>
>>
>
> See?, admitting you're an idiot is the first step.
>
> Bertie

Yeah, I believe I would call some one else and idiot if I couldn't figure
out what BT means.

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:komfk.20627$%q.3919
>> @newsfe24.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did I now? What's BT?
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Duh, gee I wonder?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> See?, admitting you're an idiot is the first step.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Yeah, I believe I would call some one else and idiot if I couldn't
> figure out what BT means.



Of course you would! It's what makes you speshool .

Bertie

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Like you really give a ****.
>>
>
>I'm a flight instructor.
>
>You?
>
>Bertie

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth Pilot > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Like you really give a ****.
>>>
>>
>>I'm a flight instructor.
>>
>>You?
>>
>>Bertie
>
> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>
> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

On Jul 15, 9:37*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:a375b9ee-43a1-4002-98e3-
> :
>
> > On Jul 15, 3:35*pm, John Smith > wrote:
> >> Passed my medical last week and did my BFR this afternoon.
> >> I am good to go.
> >> Because I am IR, the instructor test to that level of knowledge.
> >> 1.3 hours flight, 0.5 simulated instruments.
>
> > I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
> > the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
> > was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish up
> > my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the flight
> > time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't mind doing
> > both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA to renew the
> > CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.
>
> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>
> Bertie

I'm doing an online class. At the end you take the certificate with an
8710 (as I recall) down to the FSDO and they hand you a new CFI
temporary. Also, when you go for your BFR you can actually skip the
ground 1 hr by regulation if you are a current CFI.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in
:

> On Jul 15, 9:37*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in
>> news:a375b9ee-43a1-4002-98e3
> -
>> :
>>
>> > On Jul 15, 3:35*pm, John Smith > wrote:
>> >> Passed my medical last week and did my BFR this afternoon.
>> >> I am good to go.
>> >> Because I am IR, the instructor test to that level of knowledge.
>> >> 1.3 hours flight, 0.5 simulated instruments.
>>
>> > I had my BFR, IR, and CFI all come up next month. Luckily last week
>> > the fires were so bad the airport was IFR for a couple of days so I
>> > was able to get the IR current by myself. Now I just have to finish
>> > up my FIRC and then I'll do the BFR. Technically I only need the
>> > flight time for the BFR (the CFI counts as the ground) but I don't
>> > mind doing both if the CFI asks. I wonder if I'll have to use IACRA
>> > to renew the CFI or if I can still walk in the 8710.
>>
>> Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> I'm doing an online class. At the end you take the certificate with an
> 8710 (as I recall) down to the FSDO and they hand you a new CFI
> temporary. Also, when you go for your BFR you can actually skip the
> ground 1 hr by regulation if you are a current CFI.


OK, makes sense. Doesn't really apply to me anyway, I guess,. I couldn't
go out of BFR if I wanted to!



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> OK, makes sense. Doesn't really apply to me anyway, I guess,. I couldn't
> go out of BFR if I wanted to!
>
>
>
> Bertie

An obtuse troll.

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:KIrfk.20653$%q.17853
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> OK, makes sense. Doesn't really apply to me anyway, I guess,. I couldn't
>> go out of BFR if I wanted to!
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> An obtuse troll.
>

An idiot fjukktard trolleee.


Wheeeee!





Bertie

I do courtesy BFRs for current CFIs if you want to fly up to Grass Valley
and get me.

Jim

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle



I'm doing an online class. At the end you take the certificate with an
8710 (as I recall) down to the FSDO and they hand you a new CFI
temporary. Also, when you go for your BFR you can actually skip the
ground 1 hr by regulation if you are a current CFI.

-Robert

>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>>
>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>
> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>
> Bertie
>

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

"BT" > wrote in news:Qmxfk.1549$_J5.1242
@newsfe02.iad:

>>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still
do
>>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
>>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
>>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>>>
>>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>>
>> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on
your
>> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can
check
>> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need
to
>> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
>> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>
> Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires
a
> medical, bring that too.
> Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
> Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
certificate
> based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any
local
> Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>
> Scary isn't it.


Vicey versey, you can operate in most parts of the world wiht a US
licence as long as two of the followong line up: Airplane, pilot, and
country.
So, you could fly a French reg airplane with your us licence and a
french validation but only inside the JAR zone. In some countries they
won't even require a validation ( which is effectively what the FAA
licence based on a foreign licence is) You can just go to an FBO and get
checked out and sent off. A few of my crew went out and rented a 172 in
France when we were laying over a few days and did more flying in it in
three days than we did on duty! IIRC they had to present themselves at
some authroty to get a bit of paper and then a quick checkout and off
they went.
what they could not do, however, was fly to say, North Africa with the
airplane. They would need to be in an airplane that matched their
licence. I believe the same would apply in the US. A visitor with a Euro
Jar Licence could not fly a Canadian reg'd airplane in the US, for
instance. With professional flying we get all sorts of validations and
such to cover this. Ferrying is generally no problem, however. I did one
oout of the UK many years ago in a G reg airplane and there was a
proviso on the ferry permit which restricted us from landing in the UK
with the airplane once we'd taken off from Coventry.


Bertie

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" > wrote:

>>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
>>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
>>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
>>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>>>
>>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>>
>> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
>> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
>> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
>> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
>> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>
>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
>medical, bring that too.
>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>
>Scary isn't it.
>
>BT
>

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot >
wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" > wrote:
> >>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
> >>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
> >>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
> >>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>
> >>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>
> >> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
> >> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
> >> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
> >> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
> >> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>
> >> Bertie
>
> >Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
> >medical, bring that too.
> >Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
> >Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
> >based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
> >Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>
> >Scary isn't it.
>
> >BT
>
> whats an UKpaper????
> oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>
> as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
> Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>

Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> wrote:

>On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot >
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" > wrote:
>> >>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
>> >>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
>> >>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
>> >>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>>
>> >>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>>
>> >> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
>> >> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
>> >> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
>> >> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
>> >> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>>
>> >> Bertie
>>
>> >Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
>> >medical, bring that too.
>> >Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
>> >Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
>> >based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
>> >Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>>
>> >Scary isn't it.
>>
>> >BT
>>
>> whats an UKpaper????
>> oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>>
>> as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
>> Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>>
>
>Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
>Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

that is interesting.
mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)

and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
you've written.

a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)
Stealth Pilot

On Jul 17, 10:50*pm, Stealth Pilot >
wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot >
> >wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" > wrote:
> >> >>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
> >> >>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
> >> >>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
> >> >>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>
> >> >>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>
> >> >> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
> >> >> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
> >> >> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
> >> >> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
> >> >> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>
> >> >> Bertie
>
> >> >Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
> >> >medical, bring that too.
> >> >Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
> >> >Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
> >> >based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
> >> >Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>
> >> >Scary isn't it.
>
> >> >BT
>
> >> whats an UKpaper????
> >> oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>
> >> as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
> >> Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> >> it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>
> >Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
> >Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)
>
> that is interesting.
> mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)
>

Ah so yours does not say "aircrew license" after all?

> and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
> *FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

Yep, OK

>
> and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
> you've written.
>

But that's the bit with the all important signature -right? Otherwise
you could be a steward serving me drinks...

> a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)

Nah, just making sure you actually have a license -and the exercise is
good for you.

Cheers

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:51:08 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> wrote:

>On Jul 17, 10:50*pm, Stealth Pilot >
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot >
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" > wrote:
>> >> >>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
>> >> >>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
>> >> >>> the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
>> >> >>> or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?
>>
>> >> >>> something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.
>>
>> >> >> I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
>> >> >> own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
>> >> >> you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
>> >> >> give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
>> >> >> beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.
>>
>> >> >> Bertie
>>
>> >> >Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
>> >> >medical, bring that too.
>> >> >Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
>> >> >Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
>> >> >based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
>> >> >Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>>
>> >> >Scary isn't it.
>>
>> >> >BT
>>
>> >> whats an UKpaper????
>> >> oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>>
>> >> as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
>> >> Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> >> it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>>
>> >Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
>> >Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)
>>
>> that is interesting.
>> mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)
>>
>
>Ah so yours does not say "aircrew license" after all?
>
>> and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
>> *FLIGHT CREW LICENCE
>
>Yep, OK
>
>>
>> and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
>> you've written.
>>
>
>But that's the bit with the all important signature -right? Otherwise
>you could be a steward serving me drinks...
>
>> a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)
>
>Nah, just making sure you actually have a license -and the exercise is
>good for you.
>
>Cheers

Do people you get in flame wars with call you "****_flaps?"

That would be irritating. I bet you think those people are stupid.

Jade

>>
>>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
>>medical, bring that too.
>>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
>>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
>>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
>>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>>
>>Scary isn't it.
>>
>>BT
>>
>
> whats an UKpaper????
> oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>
> as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
> Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>
> I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
> could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
> tour. no checking at all.
> for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.
>
> we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>
> Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

BT

On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
> >>medical, bring that too.
> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>
> >>Scary isn't it.
>
> >>BT
>
> > whats an UKpaper????
> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>
> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>
> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
> > could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
> > tour. no checking at all.
> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.
>
> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>
> > Stealth Pilot
>
> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>

Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> wrote:

>On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
>> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
>> >>medical, bring that too.
>> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
>> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
>> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
>> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>>
>> >>Scary isn't it.
>>
>> >>BT
>>
>> > whats an UKpaper????
>> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>>
>> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
>> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>>
>> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
>> > could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
>> > tour. no checking at all.
>> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.
>>
>> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>>
>> > Stealth Pilot
>>
>> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
>> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>>
>
>Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
>
>Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.

our regulators seem to think that everything non commercial should
live within the RAA environment. they are wrong for this reason!

Stealth Pilot

On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot >
wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
> >> >>medical, bring that too.
> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>
> >> >>Scary isn't it.
>
> >> >>BT
>
> >> > whats an UKpaper????
> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>
> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>
> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
> >> > could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
> >> > tour. no checking at all.
> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.
>
> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>
> >> > Stealth Pilot
>
> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>
> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
>
> >Cheers
>
> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
> important in australia.
>
> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
> "licences"
> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
> issue are called "certificates"
>
> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
> pilots have certificates.
>

Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
certifiable.

Cheers

More_Flaps > wrote in
:

> On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot >
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
>> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
>> >> >>require
> s a
>> >> >>medical, bring that too.
>> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
>> >> >>Distri
> ct
>> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
>> >> >>certific
> ate
>> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
>> >> >>any lo
> cal
>> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>>
>> >> >>Scary isn't it.
>>
>> >> >>BT
>>
>> >> > whats an UKpaper????
>> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>>
>> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
>> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>>
>> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
>> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and
>> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
>> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
>> >> > licence.
>>
>> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>>
>> >> > Stealth Pilot
>>
>> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
>> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>>
>> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
>>
>> >Cheers
>>
>> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
>> important in australia.
>>
>> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
>> "licences"
>> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
>> issue are called "certificates"
>>
>> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
>> pilots have certificates.
>>
>
> Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
> certifiable.
>

Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.



Bertie

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> wrote:

>On Jul 18, 7:58*am, Daedalus > wrote:
>>
>> Do people you get in flame wars with call you "****_flaps?"
>>
>> That would be irritating. I bet you think those people are stupid.
>>
>
>You try sooo hard and yet it never really makes you feel better does
>it?

W0t? I asked you a question is all.

>If you speak nicely to me I may be able to suggest something for you.

I was speaking nicely to you, frend. I'm not going to kiss your ass,
if that's what you're looking for. I don't even know you.

Jade

>
>Cheers

In article >, Bertie the
Bunyip says...

> More_Flaps > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot >
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
> >> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
> >> >> >>require
> > s a
> >> >> >>medical, bring that too.
> >> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
> >> >> >>Distri
> > ct
> >> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
> >> >> >>certific
> > ate
> >> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
> >> >> >>any lo
> > cal
> >> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
> >>
> >> >> >>Scary isn't it.
> >>
> >> >> >>BT
> >>
> >> >> > whats an UKpaper????
> >> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
> >>
> >> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
> >> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> >> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
> >>
> >> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
> >> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and
> >> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
> >> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
> >> >> > licence.
> >>
> >> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
> >>
> >> >> > Stealth Pilot
> >>
> >> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
> >> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
> >>
> >> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
> >>
> >> >Cheers
> >>
> >> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
> >> important in australia.
> >>
> >> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
> >> "licences"
> >> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
> >> issue are called "certificates"
> >>
> >> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
> >> pilots have certificates.
> >>
> >
> > Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
> > certifiable.
> >
>
> Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.

It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"

Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in
:

> In article >, Bertie the
> Bunyip says...
>
>> More_Flaps > wrote in
>> news:f619c72b-0904-452a-a6ef-
:
>
>>
>> > On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot >
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
>> >> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
>> >> >> >>require
>> > s a
>> >> >> >>medical, bring that too.
>> >> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
>> >> >> >>Distri
>> > ct
>> >> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
>> >> >> >>certific
>> > ate
>> >> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
>> >> >> >>any lo
>> > cal
>> >> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>> >>
>> >> >> >>Scary isn't it.
>> >>
>> >> >> >>BT
>> >>
>> >> >> > whats an UKpaper????
>> >> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>> >>
>> >> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt
an
>> >> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> >> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>> >>
>> >> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
>> >> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc,
and
>> >> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
>> >> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
>> >> >> > licence.
>> >>
>> >> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>> >>
>> >> >> > Stealth Pilot
>> >>
>> >> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
>> >> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>> >>
>> >> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
>> >>
>> >> >Cheers
>> >>
>> >> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is
quite
>> >> important in australia.
>> >>
>> >> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
>> >> "licences"
>> >> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country
of
>> >> issue are called "certificates"
>> >>
>> >> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
>> >> pilots have certificates.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to
the
>> > certifiable.
>> >
>>
>> Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.
>
> It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...
>

True.. You can have 'em both, though!


Bertie

On Jul 19, 12:43*am, Daedalus > wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>
> > wrote:
> >On Jul 18, 7:58*am, Daedalus > wrote:
>
> >> Do people you get in flame wars with call you "****_flaps?"
>
> >> That would be irritating. I bet you think those people are stupid.
>
> >You try sooo hard and yet it never really makes you feel better does
> >it?
>
> W0t? I asked you a question is all.
>
Nope.

> >If you speak nicely to me I may be able to suggest something for you.
>
> I was speaking nicely to you, frend. I'm not going to kiss your ass,
> if that's what you're looking for.
>

You already have. Thanks.

Stealth Pilot wrote:

>
> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?

FYI:

FAA form 8710 "Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application" part II:
'Certificate or Rating Applied For on Basis of' includes option D:
'Holder of Foreign License Issued By'

They ask for Country, Grade of License, Number and Ratings. You can get
the form at www.faa.gov.

The relevant regulations are 14 CFR 61.75 - Private Pilot Certification
on the Basis of a Foregin Pilot License.

Good luck!

Chris Gattman
Portland, Oregon

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:22:55 +0000 (UTC), gatt
> wrote:

>Stealth Pilot wrote:
>
>>
>> hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
>> the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
>
>FYI:
>
>FAA form 8710 "Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application" part II:
>'Certificate or Rating Applied For on Basis of' includes option D:
>'Holder of Foreign License Issued By'
>
>They ask for Country, Grade of License, Number and Ratings. You can get
>the form at www.faa.gov.
>
>The relevant regulations are 14 CFR 61.75 - Private Pilot Certification
>on the Basis of a Foregin Pilot License.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Chris Gattman
>Portland, Oregon

thanks.

In article >, Bertie the
Bunyip says...

> Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in
> :
>
> > In article >, Bertie the
> > Bunyip says...
> >
> >> More_Flaps > wrote in
> >> news:f619c72b-0904-452a-a6ef-
> :
> >
> >>
> >> > On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
> >> >> >> >>require
> >> > s a
> >> >> >> >>medical, bring that too.
> >> >> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
> >> >> >> >>Distri
> >> > ct
> >> >> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
> >> >> >> >>certific
> >> > ate
> >> >> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
> >> >> >> >>any lo
> >> > cal
> >> >> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Scary isn't it.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>BT
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > whats an UKpaper????
> >> >> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt
> an
> >> >> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> >> >> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
> >> >> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc,
> and
> >> >> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
> >> >> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
> >> >> >> > licence.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Stealth Pilot
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
> >> >> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is
> quite
> >> >> important in australia.
> >> >>
> >> >> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
> >> >> "licences"
> >> >> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country
> of
> >> >> issue are called "certificates"
> >> >>
> >> >> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
> >> >> pilots have certificates.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to
> the
> >> > certifiable.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.
> >
> > It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...
> >
>
> True.. You can have 'em both, though!

A one-man zepplin?

Whatta ya going to do with it? Drop M-80s on London?

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"

Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in news:MPG.22eb9d9e4906592298b1b2
@notbxpats.edu:

> In article >, Bertie the
> Bunyip says...
>
>> Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > In article >, Bertie the
>> > Bunyip says...
>> >
>> >> More_Flaps > wrote in
>> >> news:f619c72b-0904-452a-a6ef-
>> :
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot <notranspon...
@aeroplanes.com.au
>>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the
UK
>> >> >> >> >>require
>> >> > s a
>> >> >> >> >>medical, bring that too.
>> >> >> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight
Standards
>> >> >> >> >>Distri
>> >> > ct
>> >> >> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a
US
>> >> >> >> >>certific
>> >> > ate
>> >> >> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given
by
>> >> >> >> >>any lo
>> >> > cal
>> >> >> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>Scary isn't it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>BT
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > whats an UKpaper????
>> >> >> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually
isnt
>
>> an
>> >> >> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> >> >> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
>> >> >> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc,
>> and
>> >> >> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
>> >> >> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA
issued
>> >> >> >> > licence.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Stealth Pilot
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
>> >> >> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is
>> quite
>> >> >> important in australia.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are
called
>> >> >> "licences"
>> >> >> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the
country
>> of
>> >> >> issue are called "certificates"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and
ultralight
>> >> >> pilots have certificates.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only
to
>
>> the
>> >> > certifiable.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.
>> >
>> > It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...
>> >
>>
>> True.. You can have 'em both, though!
>
> A one-man zepplin?
>
> Whatta ya going to do with it? Drop M-80s on London?
>

Some idiot probably will, someday..

Bertie

In article >, Bertie the
Bunyip says...

> Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in news:MPG.22eb9d9e4906592298b1b2
> @notbxpats.edu:
>
> > In article >, Bertie the
> > Bunyip says...
> >
> >> Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >> > In article >, Bertie the
> >> > Bunyip says...
> >> >
> >> >> More_Flaps > wrote in
> >> >> news:f619c72b-0904-452a-a6ef-
> >> :
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot <notranspon...
> @aeroplanes.com.au
> >>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the
> UK
> >> >> >> >> >>require
> >> >> > s a
> >> >> >> >> >>medical, bring that too.
> >> >> >> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight
> Standards
> >> >> >> >> >>Distri
> >> >> > ct
> >> >> >> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a
> US
> >> >> >> >> >>certific
> >> >> > ate
> >> >> >> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given
> by
> >> >> >> >> >>any lo
> >> >> > cal
> >> >> >> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Scary isn't it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>BT
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > whats an UKpaper????
> >> >> >> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually
> isnt
> >
> >> an
> >> >> >> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
> >> >> >> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
> >> >> >> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc,
> >> and
> >> >> >> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
> >> >> >> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA
> issued
> >> >> >> >> > licence.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Stealth Pilot
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
> >> >> >> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Cheers
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is
> >> quite
> >> >> >> important in australia.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are
> called
> >> >> >> "licences"
> >> >> >> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the
> country
> >> of
> >> >> >> issue are called "certificates"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and
> ultralight
> >> >> >> pilots have certificates.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only
> to
> >
> >> the
> >> >> > certifiable.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.
> >> >
> >> > It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...
> >> >
> >>
> >> True.. You can have 'em both, though!
> >
> > A one-man zepplin?
> >
> > Whatta ya going to do with it? Drop M-80s on London?
> >
>
> Some idiot probably will, someday..

I can already see Maxine in the seat...

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"

Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in news:MPG.22edb9c5e39b45e698b1b4
@notbxpats.edu:

> In article >, Bertie the
> Bunyip says...
>
>> Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in
news:MPG.22eb9d9e4906592298b1b2
>> @notbxpats.edu:
>>
>> > In article >, Bertie the
>> > Bunyip says...
>> >
>> >> Maxwell <luv2^fly99@live.^com> wrote in
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >> > In article >, Bertie
the
>
>> >> > Bunyip says...
>> >> >
>> >> >> More_Flaps > wrote in
>> >> >> news:f619c72b-0904-452a-a6ef-
>> >> :
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot <notranspon...
>> @aeroplanes.com.au
>> >>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if
the
>
>> UK
>> >> >> >> >> >>require
>> >> >> > s a
>> >> >> >> >> >>medical, bring that too.
>> >> >> >> >> >>Take it all with your log books to the local Flight
>> Standards
>> >> >> >> >> >>Distri
>> >> >> > ct
>> >> >> >> >> >>Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue
a
>> US
>> >> >> >> >> >>certific
>> >> >> > ate
>> >> >> >> >> >>based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR
given
>
>> by
>> >> >> >> >> >>any lo
>> >> >> > cal
>> >> >> >> >> >>Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Scary isn't it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>BT
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > whats an UKpaper????
>> >> >> >> >> > oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually
>> isnt
>> >
>> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> > Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
>> >> >> >> >> > it is called an aircrew licence down under.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian
certified
>> >> >> >> >> > aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs
etc,
>
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> > continue for a tour. no checking at all.
>> >> >> >> >> > for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA
>> issued
>> >> >> >> >> > licence.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Stealth Pilot
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
>> >> >> >> >> We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Cheers
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue
is
>> >> quite
>> >> >> >> important in australia.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are
>> called
>> >> >> >> "licences"
>> >> >> >> domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the
>> country
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> issue are called "certificates"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and
>> ultralight
>> >> >> >> pilots have certificates.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong
only
>
>> to
>> >
>> >> the
>> >> >> > certifiable.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.
>> >> >
>> >> > It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids
balloons...
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> True.. You can have 'em both, though!
>> >
>> > A one-man zepplin?
>> >
>> > Whatta ya going to do with it? Drop M-80s on London?
>> >
>>
>> Some idiot probably will, someday..
>
> I can already see Maxine in the seat...
>

The perfect vehicle for him..

Bertie