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Tony Condon[_2_]
September 8th 09, 05:15 AM
Ive got Steve's Cambridge here, model 25 I think, hooked to my laptop
through a serial port. and it is powered on. I think there is some
program I need to download to get the file off the GPS and convert it to
IGC for OLC posting. What/Where is it? Thanks!
-Tony Condon
Cherokee II N373Y
Tony Condon[_2_]
September 8th 09, 05:30 AM
At 04:15 08 September 2009, Tony Condon wrote:
>Ive got Steve's Cambridge here, model 25 I think, hooked to my laptop
>through a serial port. and it is powered on. I think there is some
>program I need to download to get the file off the GPS and convert it to
>IGC for OLC posting. What/Where is it? Thanks!
>
>
>-Tony Condon
>Cherokee II N373Y
>
nevermind, figured it out.
-Tony Condon
Cherokee II N373Y
Steve Leonard[_2_]
September 8th 09, 06:30 AM
To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
program. Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". Let this program make
your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.
All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
electronic age with old school electronics!
Steve
Brad[_2_]
September 8th 09, 06:45 AM
On Sep 7, 10:30*pm, Steve Leonard > wrote:
> To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
> program. *Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". *Let this program make
> your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.
>
> All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
> electronic age with old school electronics!
>
> Steve
Steve,
If I convert a garmin gdb file to and igc file using that Carl Ekdahls
conversion program, can I get rid of the V in the red circle? I log
using a Garmin map 60 and also XC-Soar, XC-Soar logs an igc file, it
gets scored but is never valid!
thanks,
Brad
Greg Arnold
September 8th 09, 06:59 AM
Steve Leonard wrote:
> To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
> program. Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". Let this program make
> your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.
>
> All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
> electronic age with old school electronics!
>
> Steve
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
Steve Leonard[_2_]
September 8th 09, 01:45 PM
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
>You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as >an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>
That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.
Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!
And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
Still Old School for sure,
Steve
vontresc
September 8th 09, 02:01 PM
On Sep 8, 12:45*am, Brad > wrote:
> On Sep 7, 10:30*pm, Steve Leonard > wrote:
>
> > To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
> > program. *Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". *Let this program make
> > your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.
>
> > All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
> > electronic age with old school electronics!
>
> > Steve
>
> Steve,
>
> If I convert a garmin gdb file to and igc file using that Carl Ekdahls
> conversion program, can I get rid of the V in the red circle? I log
> using a Garmin map 60 and also XC-Soar, XC-Soar logs an igc file, it
> gets scored but is never valid!
>
> thanks,
> Brad
Brad, check out the list of approved software for the OLC here.
http://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
The easiest solution would be to use SeeYou as it can download
directly from your Garmin IIRC, but you will need to buy the software.
If you are a frugal glider pilot like we all are you can use G7toWin,
which will download directly from your Garmin unit, and create an olc
valid .igc file.
http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm
Peter
jcarlyle
September 8th 09, 02:07 PM
When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.
-John
Steve Leonard wrote:
> At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
> >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as >an IGC
> file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
> >
>
> That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
> borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.
>
> Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
> file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
> If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
> You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
> of memory on the old machine!
>
> And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
> loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
> through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
> have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
> computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
> logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
> Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>
> Still Old School for sure,
>
> Steve
brianDG303[_2_]
September 8th 09, 02:56 PM
On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle > wrote:
> When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
> Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
> both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
> did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
> proof.
>
> -John
>
>
>
> Steve Leonard wrote:
> > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
> > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as >an IGC
> > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>
> > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
> > borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.
>
> > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
> > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
> > *If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
> > *You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
> > of memory on the old machine!
>
> > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
> > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
> > through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
> > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
> > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
> > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
> > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>
> > Still Old School for sure,
>
> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
Brian
vontresc
September 8th 09, 03:19 PM
On Sep 8, 8:56*am, brianDG303 > wrote:
> On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
> > Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
> > both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
> > did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
> > proof.
>
> > -John
>
> > Steve Leonard wrote:
> > > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
> > > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as >an IGC
> > > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>
> > > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
> > > borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.
>
> > > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
> > > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
> > > *If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
> > > *You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
> > > of memory on the old machine!
>
> > > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
> > > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
> > > through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
> > > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
> > > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
> > > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
> > > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>
> > > Still Old School for sure,
>
> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>
> Brian- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah I did this, too. Actually that was a great selling tool since I
bought a license when my trial expired :-)
Pete
Peter Wyld[_2_]
September 8th 09, 05:45 PM
At 14:19 08 September 2009, vontresc wrote:
>On Sep 8, 8:56=A0am, brianDG303 wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
>> > Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
in
>> > both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
>> > did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
>> > proof.
>>
>> > -John
>>
>> > Steve Leonard wrote:
>> > > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
>> > > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
>an
>I=
>GC
>> > > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>>
>> > > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
>with=
> a
>> > > borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.
>>
>> > > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
>gar=
>min
>> > > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
cai
>=
>file.
>> > > =A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
the
>=
>program.
>> > > =A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
a
>fe=
>w "k"
>> > > of memory on the old machine!
>>
>> > > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
my
>> > > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
with
>i=
>t
>> > > through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
>fu=
>rther, I
>> > > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
newer
>> > > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
tlaking
>=
>to the
>> > > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
>view=
>ing.
>> > > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>>
>> > > Still Old School for sure,
>>
>> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
>> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
>> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>>
>> Brian- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Yeah I did this, too. Actually that was a great selling tool since I
>bought a license when my trial expired :-)
>
>Pete
>
Trial (Free, unlicenced) SeeYou runs for two weeks with full
functionality, after that bits begin to stop working, but I believe the
downloader will keep on working forever. For Cambridge 20/25 it works
better with a USB-Serial converter (it's a timing thing apparently)
There are plenty of free programs which will do your Cambridge 10/20/25
download and conversion, including Cambridge utility and Cambridge Aero
Explorer (both available freely from the Cambridge Instruments' website),
there are also the old Dos download and validate programs if you've got
really ancient hardware to run it on!
Cambridge Aero Explorer:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/CA_explorer.htm#pc_software
Cambridge Utility:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/executables/CAIutilInstall.zip
Dos programs:
http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp
For most everything except Cambridge, you can use the IGC Shell program
and appropriate dll
http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp
Brad[_2_]
September 8th 09, 05:59 PM
On Sep 8, 6:56*am, brianDG303 > wrote:
> On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
> > Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
> > both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
> > did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
> > proof.
>
> > -John
>
> > Steve Leonard wrote:
> > > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
> > > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as >an IGC
> > > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>
> > > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
> > > borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.
>
> > > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
> > > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
> > > *If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
> > > *You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
> > > of memory on the old machine!
>
> > > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
> > > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
> > > through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
> > > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
> > > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
> > > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
> > > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>
> > > Still Old School for sure,
>
> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>
> Brian
I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.
I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?
Thanks,
Brad
Greg Arnold
September 8th 09, 06:45 PM
Brad wrote:
> On Sep 8, 6:56 am, brianDG303 > wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 6:07 am, jcarlyle > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
>>> Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
>>> both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
>>> did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
>>> proof.
>>> -John
>>> Steve Leonard wrote:
>>>> At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
>>>>> You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as >an IGC
>>>> file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>>>> That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
>>>> borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.
>>>> Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
>>>> file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
>>>> If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
>>>> You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
>>>> of memory on the old machine!
>>>> And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
>>>> loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
>>>> through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
>>>> have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
>>>> computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
>>>> logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
>>>> Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>>>> Still Old School for sure,
>>>> Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
>> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
>> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>>
>> Brian
>
> I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
> realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.
>
> I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
> I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
> to validate the igc file?
File/Save As
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
Edward
September 8th 09, 07:30 PM
At 16:59 08 September 2009, Brad wrote:
>On Sep 8, 6:56=A0am, brianDG303 wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
>> > Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
in
>> > both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
>> > did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
>> > proof.
>>
>> > -John
>>
>> > Steve Leonard wrote:
>> > > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
>> > > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
>an
>I=
>GC
>> > > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>>
>> > > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
>with=
> a
>> > > borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.
>>
>> > > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
>gar=
>min
>> > > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
cai
>=
>file.
>> > > =A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
the
>=
>program.
>> > > =A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
a
>fe=
>w "k"
>> > > of memory on the old machine!
>>
>> > > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
my
>> > > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
with
>i=
>t
>> > > through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
>fu=
>rther, I
>> > > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
newer
>> > > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
tlaking
>=
>to the
>> > > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
>view=
>ing.
>> > > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>>
>> > > Still Old School for sure,
>>
>> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
>> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
>> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>>
>> Brian
>
>I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
>realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.
>
>I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
>I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
>to validate the igc file?
>
>Thanks,
>Brad
>
XCSoar isn't on the OLC approved list
http://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
so your file won't be valid.
If cai2igc4olc doesn't convert your Garmin gdb file, try this site:
http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/
Brad[_2_]
September 8th 09, 09:10 PM
On Sep 8, 11:30*am, Edward > wrote:
> At 16:59 08 September 2009, Brad wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sep 8, 6:56=A0am, brianDG303 *wrote:
> >> On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle *wrote:
>
> >> > When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
> >> > Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
> in
> >> > both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
> >> > did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
> >> > proof.
>
> >> > -John
>
> >> > Steve Leonard wrote:
> >> > > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
> >> > > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
> >an
> >I=
> >GC
> >> > > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>
> >> > > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
> >with=
> > a
> >> > > borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.
>
> >> > > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
> >gar=
> >min
> >> > > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
> cai
> >=
> >file.
> >> > > =A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
> the
> >=
> >program.
> >> > > =A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
> a
> >fe=
> >w "k"
> >> > > of memory on the old machine!
>
> >> > > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
> my
> >> > > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
> with
> >i=
> >t
> >> > > through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
> >fu=
> >rther, I
> >> > > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
> newer
> >> > > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
> tlaking
> >=
> >to the
> >> > > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
> >view=
> >ing.
> >> > > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>
> >> > > Still Old School for sure,
>
> >> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
> >> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
> >> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>
> >> Brian
>
> >I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
> >realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.
>
> >I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
> >I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
> >to validate the igc file?
>
> >Thanks,
> >Brad
>
> XCSoar isn't on the OLC approved listhttp://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
> so your file won't be valid.
>
> If cai2igc4olc doesn't convert your Garmin gdb file, try this site:http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/
I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
results in invalid OLC posting
Brad
vontresc
September 8th 09, 09:40 PM
On Sep 8, 3:10*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Sep 8, 11:30*am, Edward * > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > At 16:59 08 September 2009, Brad wrote:
>
> > >On Sep 8, 6:56=A0am, brianDG303 *wrote:
> > >> On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle *wrote:
>
> > >> > When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
> > >> > Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
> > in
> > >> > both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
> > >> > did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
> > >> > proof.
>
> > >> > -John
>
> > >> > Steve Leonard wrote:
> > >> > > At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
> > >> > > >You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
> > >an
> > >I=
> > >GC
> > >> > > file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
>
> > >> > > That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
> > >with=
> > > a
> > >> > > borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.
>
> > >> > > Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
> > >gar=
> > >min
> > >> > > file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
> > cai
> > >=
> > >file.
> > >> > > =A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
> > the
> > >=
> > >program.
> > >> > > =A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
> > a
> > >fe=
> > >w "k"
> > >> > > of memory on the old machine!
>
> > >> > > And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
> > my
> > >> > > loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
> > with
> > >i=
> > >t
> > >> > > through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
> > >fu=
> > >rther, I
> > >> > > have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
> > newer
> > >> > > computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
> > tlaking
> > >=
> > >to the
> > >> > > logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
> > >view=
> > >ing.
> > >> > > Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
>
> > >> > > Still Old School for sure,
>
> > >> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
> > >> disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
> > >> flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.
>
> > >> Brian
>
> > >I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
> > >realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.
>
> > >I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
> > >I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
> > >to validate the igc file?
>
> > >Thanks,
> > >Brad
>
> > XCSoar isn't on the OLC approved listhttp://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
> > so your file won't be valid.
>
> > If cai2igc4olc doesn't convert your Garmin gdb file, try this site:http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/
>
> I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
> results in invalid OLC posting
>
> Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
GPS Babel generates an igc file, but will not generate the security
record.
Try G7ToWin http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm
It downloads directly from your GPS, and should generate an OLC
valid .icg file
Peter
Chris Reed[_2_]
September 8th 09, 09:41 PM
Brad wrote:
> I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
> results in invalid OLC posting
>
> Brad
I think the validation is to do with whether the logger is on the IGC
secure list or not. Your Garmin isn't, so can't produce a validated file
no matter what you do to it after download.
..igc is just the format - the validation comes from the security built
into the logger (or not, in the case of Garmin GPSs, XCSoar logs from
PDAs, etc).
You only need validation for badge and record claims, so far as I know.
Brad[_2_]
September 8th 09, 10:04 PM
On Sep 8, 1:41*pm, Chris Reed > wrote:
> Brad wrote:
> > I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
> > results in invalid OLC posting
>
> > Brad
>
> I think the validation is to do with whether the logger is on the IGC
> secure list or not. Your Garmin isn't, so can't produce a validated file
> no matter what you do to it after download.
>
> .igc is just the format - the validation comes from the security built
> into the logger (or not, in the case of Garmin GPSs, XCSoar logs from
> PDAs, etc).
>
> You only need validation for badge and record claims, so far as I know.
my files result in a "valid/green" score but the file won't rank my
flight. That's ok with me. At least the OLC accepts parts of the file
and it's fun to post them and see how I did for the day.
thanks,
Brad
mattm[_2_]
September 9th 09, 03:02 PM
On Sep 8, 5:04*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Sep 8, 1:41*pm, Chris Reed > wrote:
>
> > Brad wrote:
> > > I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
> > > results in invalid OLC posting
>
> > > Brad
>
> > I think the validation is to do with whether the logger is on the IGC
> > secure list or not. Your Garmin isn't, so can't produce a validated file
> > no matter what you do to it after download.
>
> > .igc is just the format - the validation comes from the security built
> > into the logger (or not, in the case of Garmin GPSs, XCSoar logs from
> > PDAs, etc).
>
> > You only need validation for badge and record claims, so far as I know.
>
> my files result in a "valid/green" score but the file won't rank my
> flight. That's ok with me. At least the OLC accepts parts of the file
> and it's fun to post them and see how I did for the day.
>
> thanks,
> Brad
I would see this in my earlier OLC days (before flying with an
official
igc logger). I used a Garmin eTrex gps unit to feed my PDA. At the
end of the day I'd download the trace using g7towin and save the file
as an igc file. OLC happily accepted that file, except that I'd get a
purple circle instead of a green one, but I would get a valid score.
For my silver badge flight I had to land at my destination and get
a signature from a witness.
-- Matt
Tony Condon[_2_]
September 9th 09, 03:45 PM
I got the cai2igc4olc program downloaded and figured out how to make it
work. im all sorts of Valid now! Thanks for the help folks.
-Tony Condon
Cherokee II N373Y
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