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jan olieslagers[_2_]
September 19th 09, 09:30 AM
Some Q-codes are well known to pilots: QHN, QFE; some are studied in
ground class like QDR and QDM. Recently I heard say there also exists
one for "request to leave your frequency", ISTR it was QSR.

Which brings me to some questions:

-) where can I find a complete and authorative lsit of the Q-codes to be
used in aviation R/T?
-) who is the owner/maintainer of this list? They are international, so
it cannot be any national administration*. ICAO perhaps? But then I
understand some of these codes are also used by meteorologists and
sailors, too...?

TIA,
KA

* besides we have recently seen examples of the confusion that national
administrations can create through confusing or even contradictory
publications...

Stefan[_3_]
September 19th 09, 10:35 AM
jan olieslagers schrieb:

> -) where can I find a complete and authorative lsit of the Q-codes to be
> used in aviation R/T?

I don't think the official documents are on the internet, but there are
a couple of private sites with lists. A German one:
http://www.htc.ch/de/der_Q_code.htm

> -) who is the owner/maintainer of this list?

The ITU (surprize!), and for the aviation related codes the ICAO (again,
surprize!).

I think there is also a range of codes which is deliberately not defined
and free for national use, but I'm not sure on tis.

RST Engineering - JIm
September 19th 09, 11:26 PM
One of the very best ones (adapted to aviation use from amateur radio) is
QLF (now try that maneuver using only your LEFT foot.)

Jim


"jan olieslagers" > wrote in message
...
> Some Q-codes are well known to pilots: QHN, QFE; some are studied in
> ground class like QDR and QDM. Recently I heard say there also exists one
> for "request to leave your frequency", ISTR it was QSR.
>
> Which brings me to some questions:
>
> -) where can I find a complete and authorative lsit of the Q-codes to be
> used in aviation R/T?
> -) who is the owner/maintainer of this list? They are international, so it
> cannot be any national administration*. ICAO perhaps? But then I
> understand some of these codes are also used by meteorologists and
> sailors, too...?
>
> TIA,
> KA
>
> * besides we have recently seen examples of the confusion that national
> administrations can create through confusing or even contradictory
> publications...

jan olieslagers[_2_]
September 20th 09, 11:15 AM
RST Engineering - JIm schreef:
> One of the very best ones (adapted to aviation use from amateur radio) is
> QLF (now try that maneuver using only your LEFT foot.)

Dreadful sorry, Jim, but even the VERY exhaustive list mentioned by
Stefan has no entry for QLF so I am afraid your point is lost on me.
Then again, ANY operation on the radio influenced by foot availability
must be tricky, if not positively lousy...
KA

jan olieslagers[_2_]
September 20th 09, 11:23 AM
Stefan schreef:
> jan olieslagers schrieb:
>
>> -) where can I find a complete and authorative list of the Q-codes to
>> be used in aviation R/T?
>
> I don't think the official documents are on the internet, but there are
> a couple of private sites with lists. A German one:
> http://www.htc.ch/de/der_Q_code.htm

Beautiful!
<quote>Die Q-Codes werden zu Fragen, wenn ihnen ein Fragezeichen
folgt.</quote>
<my translation>Q-codes become questions when followed by a question
mark></tr>
This irreproachable logic can only stem from the military.

I only hope I need not know the full list by heart for the radio exam!

John E. Carty
September 20th 09, 01:10 PM
"jan olieslagers" > wrote in message
...
> RST Engineering - JIm schreef:
>> One of the very best ones (adapted to aviation use from amateur radio) is
>> QLF (now try that maneuver using only your LEFT foot.)
>
> Dreadful sorry, Jim, but even the VERY exhaustive list mentioned by Stefan
> has no entry for QLF so I am afraid your point is lost on me. Then again,
> ANY operation on the radio influenced by foot availability must be tricky,
> if not positively lousy...
> KA

QLF Facetious prosign: Now send with your LEFT foot

Found it at: http://www.ominous-valve.com/acronyms.txt :-)

jan olieslagers[_2_]
September 20th 09, 01:28 PM
John E. Carty schreef:
> QLF Facetious prosign: Now send with your LEFT foot
>
> Found it at: http://www.ominous-valve.com/acronyms.txt :-)

Thank you Sir, this page seems even more edifying than the previous.
That QLF must be lousy indeed but I will prefer operating the radio with
my LEFT foot over having no feet LEFT especially on a left-foot circuit
(or was that left-hand?).

Or would this apply to sending smoke-signals with a left-foot-activated
oil valve?

jan olieslagers[_2_]
September 20th 09, 02:54 PM
RST Engineering - JIm schreef:
> One of the very best ones (adapted to aviation use from amateur radio) is
> QLF (now try that maneuver using only your LEFT foot.)

Further studying Stefan's link, I found the QGR code more useful for
those depraved of the left foot functionality...?

<quote>QGR: Kann ich in ... landen, ohne eine Linkskurve zu machen? </quote>
<tr>Can I land at ... without performing any left turn?</tr>

And no, there's no equivalent to the other side: QGL is a request to
enter a controlled zone. A controlled ZONE mind you, not a controlled area!

Jon Woellhaf
September 20th 09, 09:55 PM
Not really as silly as it sounds. The idea is to create a double meanig for
many codes. for example, QTH Denver means my loaction is Denver. QTH? means
what is your location?

"jan olieslagers" > wrote in message
...
> Stefan schreef:
>> jan olieslagers schrieb:
>>
>>> -) where can I find a complete and authorative list of the Q-codes to be
>>> used in aviation R/T?
>>
>> I don't think the official documents are on the internet, but there are a
>> couple of private sites with lists. A German one:
>> http://www.htc.ch/de/der_Q_code.htm
>
> Beautiful!
> <quote>Die Q-Codes werden zu Fragen, wenn ihnen ein Fragezeichen
> folgt.</quote>
> <my translation>Q-codes become questions when followed by a question
> mark></tr>
> This irreproachable logic can only stem from the military.
>
> I only hope I need not know the full list by heart for the radio exam!

capitanleo
September 21st 09, 05:40 AM
On Sep 20, 4:55*pm, "Jon Woellhaf" > wrote:
> Not really as silly as it sounds. The idea is to create a double meanig for
> many codes. for example, QTH Denver means my loaction is Denver. QTH? means
> what is your location?
>
> "jan olieslagers" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Stefan schreef:
> >> jan olieslagers schrieb:
>
> >>> -) where can I find a complete and authorative list of the Q-codes to be
> >>> used in aviation R/T?
>
> >> I don't think the official documents are on the internet, but there are a
> >> couple of private sites with lists. A German one:
> >>http://www.htc.ch/de/der_Q_code.htm
>
> > Beautiful!
> > <quote>Die Q-Codes werden zu Fragen, wenn ihnen ein Fragezeichen
> > folgt.</quote>
> > <my translation>Q-codes become questions when followed by a question
> > mark></tr>
> > This irreproachable logic can only stem from the military.
>
> > I only hope I need not know the full list by heart for the radio exam!



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