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Juan.Jimenez
November 3rd 03, 05:45 AM
One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one piece of proof
showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.

It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.

Juan.Jimenez
November 3rd 03, 05:51 AM
Tell ya what, I've taken pity on ya -- one title showing your name as sole
owner of any vehicle, instead of a truck, and one piece of proof it was in
Lakeland for SnF since George Conn won a judgement against you.

If you don't have it, all you have to do is admit you lied and apologize.
And since you're so fond of bets, $1 sez you won't admit you lied and you
won't apologize.

I won't hold my breath, but the buck is on the table.

"Juan.Jimenez" > wrote in message
news:5Ylpb.92019$e01.325755@attbi_s02...
> One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one piece of
proof
> showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.
>
> It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.
>
>

Rick
November 3rd 03, 02:12 PM
Juan,

Please take the time to read ALL of this before dashing off your usual smart
aleck response. If you are going to call yourself a journalist, this is
what is expected of you by us, the great unwashed masses. Anything less is
crap, pure and simple.

Red

Preamble
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that
public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of
democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking
truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues.
Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the
public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the
cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a
dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's
principles and standards of practice.

--------------------------------------------------------------------


Seek Truth and Report It

Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering,
reporting and interpreting information.

Journalists should:

a.. Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise
care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.
b.. Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the
opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing.
c.. Identify sources whenever feasible. The public is entitled to as
much information as possible on sources' reliability.
d.. Always question sources' motives before promising anonymity.
Clarify conditions attached to any promise made in exchange for information.
Keep promises.
e.. Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional
material, photos, video, audio, graphics, sound bites and quotations do not
misrepresent. They should not oversimplify or highlight incidents out of
context.
f.. Never distort the content of news photos or video. Image
enhancement for technical clarity is always permissible. Label montages and
photo illustrations.
g.. Avoid misleading re-enactments or staged news events. If
re-enactment is necessary to tell a story, label it.
h.. Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering
information except when traditional open methods will not yield information
vital to the public. Use of such methods should be explained as part of the
story
i.. Never plagiarize.
j.. Tell the story of the diversity and magnitude of the human
experience boldly, even when it is unpopular to do so.
k.. Examine their own cultural values and avoid imposing those
values on others.
l.. Avoid stereotyping by race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity,
geography, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance or social
status.
m.. Support the open exchange of views, even views they find
repugnant.
n.. Give voice to the voiceless; official and unofficial sources of
information can be equally valid.
o.. Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and
commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.
p.. Distinguish news from advertising and shun hybrids that blur the
lines between the two.
q.. Recognize a special obligation to ensure that the public's
business is conducted in the open and that government records are open to
inspection.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Minimize Harm

Ethical journalists treat sources, subjects and colleagues as human
beings deserving of respect.

Journalists should:

a.. Show compassion for those who may be affected adversely by news
coverage. Use special sensitivity when dealing with children and
inexperienced sources or subjects.
b.. Be sensitive when seeking or using interviews or photographs of
those affected by tragedy or grief.
c.. Recognize that gathering and reporting information may cause
harm or discomfort. Pursuit of the news is not a license for arrogance.
d.. Recognize that private people have a greater right to control
information about themselves than do public officials and others who seek
power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need can justify
intrusion into anyone's privacy.
e.. Show good taste. Avoid pandering to lurid curiosity.
f.. Be cautious about identifying juvenile suspects or victims of
sex crimes.
g.. Be judicious about naming criminal suspects before the formal
filing of charges.
h.. Balance a criminal suspect's fair trial rights with the public's
right to be informed.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Act Independently

Journalists should be free of obligation to any interest other than
the public's right to know.

Journalists should:

a.. Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived.
b.. Remain free of associations and activities that may compromise
integrity or damage credibility.
c.. Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment,
and shun secondary employment, political involvement, public office and
service in community organizations if they compromise journalistic
integrity.
d.. Disclose unavoidable conflicts.
e.. Be vigilant and courageous about holding those with power
accountable.
f.. Deny favored treatment to advertisers and special interests and
resist their pressure to influence news coverage.
g.. Be wary of sources offering information for favors or money;
avoid bidding for news.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Be Accountable

Journalists are accountable to their readers, listeners, viewers and
each other.

Journalists should:

a.. Clarify and explain news coverage and invite dialogue with the
public over journalistic conduct.
b.. Encourage the public to voice grievances against the news media.
c.. Admit mistakes and correct them promptly.
d.. Expose unethical practices of journalists and the news media.
e.. Abide by the same high standards to which they hold others.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The SPJ Code of Ethics is voluntarily embraced by thousands of
writers, editors and other news professionals. The present version of
the code was adopted by the 1996 SPJ National Convention, after months
of study and debate among the Society's members.

Sigma Delta Chi's first Code of Ethics was borrowed from the
American Society of Newspaper Editors in 1926. In 1973, Sigma Delta
Chi
wrote its own code, which was revised in 1984, 1987 and 1996.

Ethics Resources
Ethics Code
Ethics News
Ethics Hotline
SPJ Ethics Listserv
Other Ethics Sources
SPJ Ethics Committee
Ethics Week




"Juan.Jimenez" > wrote in message
news:W1mpb.92051$e01.325484@attbi_s02...
> Tell ya what, I've taken pity on ya -- one title showing your name as sole
> owner of any vehicle, instead of a truck, and one piece of proof it was in
> Lakeland for SnF since George Conn won a judgement against you.
>
> If you don't have it, all you have to do is admit you lied and apologize.
> And since you're so fond of bets, $1 sez you won't admit you lied and you
> won't apologize.
>
> I won't hold my breath, but the buck is on the table.
>
> "Juan.Jimenez" > wrote in message
> news:5Ylpb.92019$e01.325755@attbi_s02...
> > One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one piece of
> proof
> > showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.
> >
> > It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.
> >
> >
>
>

RobertR237
November 3rd 03, 03:11 PM
In article >, "Rick" >
writes:

>
>Juan,
>
>Please take the time to read ALL of this before dashing off your usual smart
>aleck response. If you are going to call yourself a journalist, this is
>what is expected of you by us, the great unwashed masses. Anything less is
>crap, pure and simple.
>
>Red
>
>

You only fool yourself to think for one moment that Jaun gives a damn about any
journalistic ethics. He is nothing more than a troll looking for attention,
any attention, even bad. You waste your time trying to convince him to do what
is right and look into the factual evidence instead of just repeating what
Jimbo tells him. It is past time to ignore the stupid ass and let him fade
away with the rest of the trolls.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

November 3rd 03, 05:27 PM
In article <5Ylpb.92019$e01.325755@attbi_s02>,
Juan.Jimenez > wrote:
>
>
>One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one piece of proof
>showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.

The onus is on *YOU* to prove _your_ claim, not for somebody else to
disprove it.

>
>It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.
>
>

*FUNNY* statement coming, as it is, from a man who is unable to deny that he,
himself, is a liar and a fraud!

November 3rd 03, 05:32 PM
In article <W1mpb.92051$e01.325484@attbi_s02>,
Juan.Jimenez > wrote:
>
>Tell ya what, I've taken pity on ya -- one title showing your name as sole
>owner of any vehicle, instead of a truck, and one piece of proof it was in
>Lakeland for SnF since George Conn won a judgement against you.

Tell ya what, I've taken pityt on *you*, Juan -- One piece of documentation
showing that he did *NOT* own any vehicle, and one piece of proof that it
was _not_ at Lakeland for SnF.

*YOU* made the claim, _YOU_ must provide the "proof".

That's all that's needed to rebut the claim that *YOU* are a liar and
a fraud.

>If you don't have it, all you have to do is admit you lied and apologize.
>And since you're so fond of bets, $1 sez you won't admit you lied and you
>won't apologize.

If you don't have it, all you have to do is admit you lied, and apologize.
I'll _up_ the ante. $10 sze you won't admit you lied, and you won't
apologize.

>I won't hold my breath, but the buck is on the table.


I won't hold my breath, but the sawbuck is on the table.

>
>"Juan.Jimenez" > wrote in message
>news:5Ylpb.92019$e01.325755@attbi_s02...
>> One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one piece of
>proof
>> showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.
>>
>> It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.
>>
>>
>
>

I'm begging you
November 3rd 03, 10:52 PM
> Morgans > wrote:

> I BEG of you. Please use the JJJ in the subject

I BEG of you. Please trim your posts Mr. Morgans

Morgans
November 4th 03, 01:42 AM
I BEG of you. Please use the JJJ in the subject
--
Jim in NC

"Rick" > wrote in message
...
> Juan,
>
> Please take the time to read ALL of this before dashing off your usual
smart
> aleck response. If you are going to call yourself a journalist, this is
> what is expected of you by us, the great unwashed masses. Anything less
is
> crap, pure and simple.
>
> Red
>
> Preamble
> Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe
that
> public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of
> democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking
> truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues.
> Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve
the
> public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the
> cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a
> dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the
Society's
> principles and standards of practice.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Seek Truth and Report It
>
> Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering,
> reporting and interpreting information.
>
> Journalists should:
>
> a.. Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise
> care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never
permissible.
> b.. Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the
> opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing.
> c.. Identify sources whenever feasible. The public is entitled to
as
> much information as possible on sources' reliability.
> d.. Always question sources' motives before promising anonymity.
> Clarify conditions attached to any promise made in exchange for
information.
> Keep promises.
> e.. Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional
> material, photos, video, audio, graphics, sound bites and quotations do
not
> misrepresent. They should not oversimplify or highlight incidents out of
> context.
> f.. Never distort the content of news photos or video. Image
> enhancement for technical clarity is always permissible. Label montages
and
> photo illustrations.
> g.. Avoid misleading re-enactments or staged news events. If
> re-enactment is necessary to tell a story, label it.
> h.. Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering
> information except when traditional open methods will not yield
information
> vital to the public. Use of such methods should be explained as part of
the
> story
> i.. Never plagiarize.
> j.. Tell the story of the diversity and magnitude of the human
> experience boldly, even when it is unpopular to do so.
> k.. Examine their own cultural values and avoid imposing those
> values on others.
> l.. Avoid stereotyping by race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity,
> geography, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance or social
> status.
> m.. Support the open exchange of views, even views they find
> repugnant.
> n.. Give voice to the voiceless; official and unofficial sources
of
> information can be equally valid.
> o.. Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and
> commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.
> p.. Distinguish news from advertising and shun hybrids that blur
the
> lines between the two.
> q.. Recognize a special obligation to ensure that the public's
> business is conducted in the open and that government records are open to
> inspection.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Minimize Harm
>
> Ethical journalists treat sources, subjects and colleagues as human
> beings deserving of respect.
>
> Journalists should:
>
> a.. Show compassion for those who may be affected adversely by
news
> coverage. Use special sensitivity when dealing with children and
> inexperienced sources or subjects.
> b.. Be sensitive when seeking or using interviews or photographs
of
> those affected by tragedy or grief.
> c.. Recognize that gathering and reporting information may cause
> harm or discomfort. Pursuit of the news is not a license for arrogance.
> d.. Recognize that private people have a greater right to control
> information about themselves than do public officials and others who seek
> power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need can justify
> intrusion into anyone's privacy.
> e.. Show good taste. Avoid pandering to lurid curiosity.
> f.. Be cautious about identifying juvenile suspects or victims of
> sex crimes.
> g.. Be judicious about naming criminal suspects before the formal
> filing of charges.
> h.. Balance a criminal suspect's fair trial rights with the
public's
> right to be informed.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Act Independently
>
> Journalists should be free of obligation to any interest other than
> the public's right to know.
>
> Journalists should:
>
> a.. Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived.
> b.. Remain free of associations and activities that may compromise
> integrity or damage credibility.
> c.. Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment,
> and shun secondary employment, political involvement, public office and
> service in community organizations if they compromise journalistic
> integrity.
> d.. Disclose unavoidable conflicts.
> e.. Be vigilant and courageous about holding those with power
> accountable.
> f.. Deny favored treatment to advertisers and special interests
and
> resist their pressure to influence news coverage.
> g.. Be wary of sources offering information for favors or money;
> avoid bidding for news.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Be Accountable
>
> Journalists are accountable to their readers, listeners, viewers and
> each other.
>
> Journalists should:
>
> a.. Clarify and explain news coverage and invite dialogue with the
> public over journalistic conduct.
> b.. Encourage the public to voice grievances against the news
media.
> c.. Admit mistakes and correct them promptly.
> d.. Expose unethical practices of journalists and the news media.
> e.. Abide by the same high standards to which they hold others.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The SPJ Code of Ethics is voluntarily embraced by thousands of
> writers, editors and other news professionals. The present version
of
> the code was adopted by the 1996 SPJ National Convention, after
months
> of study and debate among the Society's members.
>
> Sigma Delta Chi's first Code of Ethics was borrowed from the
> American Society of Newspaper Editors in 1926. In 1973, Sigma Delta
> Chi
> wrote its own code, which was revised in 1984, 1987 and 1996.
>
> Ethics Resources
> Ethics Code
> Ethics News
> Ethics Hotline
> SPJ Ethics Listserv
> Other Ethics Sources
> SPJ Ethics Committee
> Ethics Week
>
>
>
>
> "Juan.Jimenez" > wrote in message
> news:W1mpb.92051$e01.325484@attbi_s02...
> > Tell ya what, I've taken pity on ya -- one title showing your name as
sole
> > owner of any vehicle, instead of a truck, and one piece of proof it was
in
> > Lakeland for SnF since George Conn won a judgement against you.
> >
> > If you don't have it, all you have to do is admit you lied and
apologize.
> > And since you're so fond of bets, $1 sez you won't admit you lied and
you
> > won't apologize.
> >
> > I won't hold my breath, but the buck is on the table.
> >
> > "Juan.Jimenez" > wrote in message
> > news:5Ylpb.92019$e01.325755@attbi_s02...
> > > One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one piece of
> > proof
> > > showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.
> > >
> > > It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Model Flyer
November 4th 03, 01:03 PM
> wrote in message
nk.net...
> In article <5Ylpb.92019$e01.325755@attbi_s02>,
> Juan.Jimenez > wrote:
> >
> >
> >One title showing your name as sole owner of a truck, and one
piece of proof
> >showing it was in Lakeland for SnF.
>
> The onus is on *YOU* to prove _your_ claim, not for somebody else
to
> disprove it.
>
> >
> >It's all about credibility, the kind you don't have.
> >
> >
>
> *FUNNY* statement coming, as it is, from a man who is unable to
deny that he,
> himself, is a liar and a fraud!
>
Juan Jimenez (cricket) does not exist, he is simply a figment of the
combined inaginations of all members of this news group. So stop
talking to yourselves guys, it does you no good whatever. I've never
seed any post from this chap zoom, just doesn't exist either.:-)
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