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C.D.Damron
January 29th 04, 03:05 AM
A number of sites have removed these binaries due to their size. I have
space and bandwidth to spare, so I'll host them for a while.

Ejection sequence:
4.2mb
http://www.ercelellis.com/eject.mpg


Head-on photo of the ejection:
2.7mg
http://www.ercelellis.com/t-bird.jpg

Mu
January 29th 04, 03:34 AM
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 03:05:59 GMT, "C.D.Damron"
> wrote:

>A number of sites have removed these binaries due to their size. I have
>space and bandwidth to spare, so I'll host them for a while.
>
>Ejection sequence:
>4.2mb
>http://www.ercelellis.com/eject.mpg
>
>
>Head-on photo of the ejection:
>2.7mg
>http://www.ercelellis.com/t-bird.jpg
>
>
>
Good idea!
To share the burden,it's now also mirrored at.

http://sarijopen.student.utwente.nl/~caligula/thunderbird/

Greetz Mu

Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
January 29th 04, 04:06 AM
news:rM_Rb.46838$U%5.250040@attbi_s03

> http://www.ercelellis.com/t-bird.jpg

Stupid question, what exacly do this image/movie show? I see it's an
ejection from plane, but what's the story - i.e. some excident while
traning etc?


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C.D.Damron
January 29th 04, 04:20 AM
"Rafal 'Raf256' Maj" > wrote in message
...
> news:rM_Rb.46838$U%5.250040@attbi_s03
>
> > http://www.ercelellis.com/t-bird.jpg
>
> Stupid question, what exacly do this image/movie show? I see it's an
> ejection from plane, but what's the story - i.e. some excident while
> traning etc?

I'm sorry, this was a crash during a Thunderbird airshow in September.

http://www.f-16.net/print.php?sid=968

S. Sampson
January 29th 04, 06:32 AM
Anyone know who took the picture, and why it was never copyright?

mah
January 29th 04, 01:50 PM
C.D.Damron wrote:
>
> A number of sites have removed these binaries due to their size. I have
> space and bandwidth to spare, so I'll host them for a while.
>
> Ejection sequence:
> 4.2mb
> http://www.ercelellis.com/eject.mpg
>
> Head-on photo of the ejection:
> 2.7mg
> http://www.ercelellis.com/t-bird.jpg

Thanks for the links.

BTW - are the images in the public domain? I'd like to use them on my
ejection website. Probably reduce the quality a little for bandwidth
concerns.

MAH

C.D.Damron
January 29th 04, 01:56 PM
"mah" > wrote in message ...
> BTW - are the images in the public domain? I'd like to use them on my
> ejection website. Probably reduce the quality a little for bandwidth
> concerns.

I'm pretty sure that the U.S. Air Force owns the rights to the video and
photo. I'll make them a deal, if they don't give me a hard time about
hosting these binaries, I won't give them a hard time about destroying
public property and will agree to keep on paying my taxes.

Pechs1
January 29th 04, 02:25 PM
CD-<< I'm sorry, this was a crash during a Thunderbird airshow in September.

http://www.f-16.net/print.php?sid=968 >><BR><BR>

Yowser...says a lot for the seat, considering the sink rate at time of
ejection. Also one of the problems of fly by wire...max pull and the 'puter is
only gonna let ya do so much.

Did he stay on the team??
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

C.D.Damron
January 29th 04, 03:04 PM
"Pechs1" > wrote in message
...
> CD-<< I'm sorry, this was a crash during a Thunderbird airshow in
September.
> Did he stay on the team??


No, he's flying a desk in Washington.

tscottme
January 29th 04, 11:04 PM
C.D.Damron > wrote in message
news:rM_Rb.46838$U%5.250040@attbi_s03...
> A number of sites have removed these binaries due to their size. I
have
> space and bandwidth to spare, so I'll host them for a while.
>
> Ejection sequence:
> 4.2mb
> http://www.ercelellis.com/eject.mpg
>
>
> Head-on photo of the ejection:
> 2.7mg
> http://www.ercelellis.com/t-bird.jpg
>

That photo is awesome, "just steppin' outside for some fresh air"

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Pechs1
January 30th 04, 03:16 PM
CD-<< No, he's flying a desk in Washington. >><BR><BR>

Ohh well, What is the saying," rather be dead than look bad"....
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Allen Epps
January 30th 04, 03:34 PM
In article >, Pechs1
> wrote:

> CD-<< No, he's flying a desk in Washington. >><BR><BR>
>
> Ohh well, What is the saying," rather be dead than look bad"....
> P. C. Chisholm
> CDR, USN(ret.)
> Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

But it's possible to do both....
Pugs

damron
January 30th 04, 07:14 PM
"S. Sampson" > wrote in message
news:EN1Sb.9151$Q_4.5092@okepread03...
> Anyone know who took the picture, and why it was never copyright?

You do not need to register it to retain copyrights. That said, I will
remove the photo if the owner asserts his copyrights.

nafod40
January 30th 04, 07:16 PM
Clark wrote:
>
> Can the Air Force, as a US government entity, hold copywrite? I'm under the
> impressiono that nothing the Feds own is copywritable. I may have the
> language wrong but if the government owns intellectual property then it's in
> the public domain (unless classified...).

Yes, they can hold copyrights. They can hold patents and license them too.

damron
January 30th 04, 08:10 PM
It's pretty clear that the video was made with AF hardware. I doubt they
contract for that. If they did, it is possible that the contractor has the
rights, but I doubt it.

"Clark" <stillnospam@me> wrote in message
...
> nafod40 > wrote in :
>
> > Clark wrote:
> >>
> >> Can the Air Force, as a US government entity, hold copywrite? I'm under
> >> the impressiono that nothing the Feds own is copywritable. I may have
> >> the language wrong but if the government owns intellectual property
> >> then it's in the public domain (unless classified...).
> >
> > Yes, they can hold copyrights. They can hold patents and license them
> > too.
> >
> >
> >
> from www.copywrite.gov:
>
> § 105. Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works35
>
> Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the
> United States Government, but the United States Government is not
precluded
> from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment,
> bequest, or otherwise.
>
> e.g. the US government can't apply for a copywrite but may receive one. In
> the case of the ejection video, hmmm?

Mike Bandor
January 31st 04, 12:29 AM
FWIW, the ejection picture (shot from the control tower) was on the Air
Force Link website today (as part of the week in pictures):

http://www.af.mil


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