Soaring?

[Gary Boggs]

Isn't there anything we can do to keep all the unrelated crap off of
here?

[noel.wade]

On Apr 2, 10:23*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Isn't there anything we can do to keep all the unrelated crap off of
> here?

Nope. Its a Usenet Newsgroup, real vintage 1970's technology/
protocols! Basically there's no concept of "membership" or access
control.

Ah well,

--Noel

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Apr 2, 10:23*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Isn't there anything we can do to keep all the unrelated crap off of
> here?

In a word, no. This being UseNet, you either need good newsreader
filters or a thick skin, or preferably both. The generally anarchic
underpinnings of UseNet are such that attempts to moderate or censor
these forums is interpreted as damage and get routed around.

If you're reading RAS with Google, they have made it generally easier
to report spam. Just click on the "Report Spam" link at the bottom of
the window. It now takes fewer clicks to report spam and then get back
to what you were doing.

Thanks, Bob K.

[Darryl Ramm]

On Apr 2, 10:38*am, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
> On Apr 2, 10:23*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
>
> > Isn't there anything we can do to keep all the unrelated crap off of
> > here?
>
> In a word, no. This being UseNet, you either need good newsreader
> filters or a thick skin, or preferably both. The generally anarchic
> underpinnings of UseNet are such that attempts to moderate or censor
> these forums is interpreted as damage and get routed around.
>
> If you're reading RAS with Google, they have made it generally easier
> to report spam. Just click on the "Report Spam" link at the bottom of
> the window. It now takes fewer clicks to report spam and then get back
> to what you were doing.
>
> Thanks, Bob K.

If you are reading with Google Groups there is a Grease Monkey script
for Mozilla Firefox that allows you to kill/hide a thread based on
topic or author. See http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html

Other options are to try a real newsreader like Mozilla Thunderbird
with a USENET news feed from your ISP.

The *worst* thing you can do on USENET (i.e. Google Groups or wherever
you read rec.aviation.soaring) is to reply to the spam. That
considered anti-social and can cause your reply to appear in the
readers of people using filters. Often spammers cross-post to many
newsgroups so s simple reply in to them in rec.aviation.soaring might
turn up in rec.hobbies.knitting and **** off innocent users there.
Worst it seems to fuel the spammers to do more since they see people
are reading their spam. Nobody is likely to be able to say something
to stop the spammers that clearly have physiological problems, they
are going to keep posting, barking at the moon, and whatever else they
do, all we can do is just keep turning off their ISP access one spam
post at a time.

If something obnoxious is appearing, just let it go, you cn mark it as
spam in Googel Groups etc. or just trust that others have already
reported it either to places like Google Groups, or more sophisticated
users have already looked at the header path, worked out the
originating ISP and contacted their spam police.

Darryl

[Darryl Ramm]

On Apr 2, 11:26*am, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
> On Apr 2, 10:38*am, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 2, 10:23*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
>
> > > Isn't there anything we can do to keep all the unrelated crap off of
> > > here?
>
> > In a word, no. This being UseNet, you either need good newsreader
> > filters or a thick skin, or preferably both. The generally anarchic
> > underpinnings of UseNet are such that attempts to moderate or censor
> > these forums is interpreted as damage and get routed around.
>
> > If you're reading RAS with Google, they have made it generally easier
> > to report spam. Just click on the "Report Spam" link at the bottom of
> > the window. It now takes fewer clicks to report spam and then get back
> > to what you were doing.
>
> > Thanks, Bob K.
>
> If you are reading with Google Groups there is a Grease Monkey script
> for Mozilla Firefox that allows you to kill/hide a thread based on
> topic or author. Seehttp://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
>
> Other options are to try a real newsreader like Mozilla Thunderbird
> with a USENET news feed from your ISP.
>
> The *worst* thing you can do on USENET (i.e. Google Groups or wherever
> you read rec.aviation.soaring) is to reply to the spam. That
> considered anti-social and can cause your reply to appear in the
> readers of people using filters. Often spammers cross-post to many
> newsgroups so s simple reply in to them in rec.aviation.soaring might
> turn up in rec.hobbies.knitting and **** off innocent users there.
> Worst it seems to fuel the spammers to do more since they see people
> are reading their spam. Nobody is likely to be able to say something
> to stop the spammers that clearly have physiological problems, they
> are going to keep posting, barking at the moon, and whatever else they
> do, all we can do is just keep turning off their ISP access one spam
> post at a time.
>
> If something obnoxious is appearing, just let it go, you cn mark it as
> spam in Googel Groups etc. or just trust that others have already
> reported it either to places like Google Groups, or more sophisticated
> users have already looked at the header path, worked out the
> originating ISP and contacted their spam police.
>
> Darryl

Sigh, some of the spammers clearly have psychological problems, I may
have a physiological (or psychological?) problem affecting my typing
ability....

Darryl

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 2, 11:35*am, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
> On Apr 2, 11:26*am, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 2, 10:38*am, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 2, 10:23*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
>
> > > > Isn't there anything we can do to keep all the unrelated crap off of
> > > > here?
>
> > > In a word, no. This being UseNet, you either need good newsreader
> > > filters or a thick skin, or preferably both. The generally anarchic
> > > underpinnings of UseNet are such that attempts to moderate or censor
> > > these forums is interpreted as damage and get routed around.
>
> > > If you're reading RAS with Google, they have made it generally easier
> > > to report spam. Just click on the "Report Spam" link at the bottom of
> > > the window. It now takes fewer clicks to report spam and then get back
> > > to what you were doing.
>
> > > Thanks, Bob K.
>
> > If you are reading with Google Groups there is a Grease Monkey script
> > for Mozilla Firefox that allows you to kill/hide a thread based on
> > topic or author. Seehttp://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
>
> > Other options are to try a real newsreader like Mozilla Thunderbird
> > with a USENET news feed from your ISP.
>
> > The *worst* thing you can do on USENET (i.e. Google Groups or wherever
> > you read rec.aviation.soaring) is to reply to the spam. That
> > considered anti-social and can cause your reply to appear in the
> > readers of people using filters. Often spammers cross-post to many
> > newsgroups so s simple reply in to them in rec.aviation.soaring might
> > turn up in rec.hobbies.knitting and **** off innocent users there.
> > Worst it seems to fuel the spammers to do more since they see people
> > are reading their spam. Nobody is likely to be able to say something
> > to stop the spammers that clearly have physiological problems, they
> > are going to keep posting, barking at the moon, and whatever else they
> > do, all we can do is just keep turning off their ISP access one spam
> > post at a time.
>
> > If something obnoxious is appearing, just let it go, you cn mark it as
> > spam in Googel Groups etc. or just trust that others have already
> > reported it either to places like Google Groups, or more sophisticated
> > users have already looked at the header path, worked out the
> > originating ISP and contacted their spam police.
>
> > Darryl
>
> Sigh, some of the spammers clearly have psychological problems, I may
> have a physiological (or psychological?) problem affecting my typing
> ability....
>
> Darryl

Darryl.................that's ok, we still like you.

Brad

[vaughn[_3_]]

"Bob Kuykendall" > wrote in message
...
>If you're reading RAS with Google, they have made it generally easier
>to report spam. Just click on the "Report Spam" link at the bottom of
>the window.

....and then absolutly nothing will happen, but at least you will feel like you
have done your part. ;-) On the Usenet, Google is the PROBLEM, not the
solution. Google serves as the biggest & most reliable superhighway for
spammers and trolls to access Usenet.

I use eternal-september.org for free Usenet access along with the Outlet Express
program that came shipped in my compter. Eternal-September seems to have great
spam filtering so I see only a fraction of the spam that appears on Google, plus
OE lets me easily filter out the trolls. Why would you do it any other way?
Dump Google Groups!

Vaughn



.................................................. .......
Nothing personal, but if you are posting through Google Groups I may not receive
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in their system, so on any given day I may or may not have Google blocked. Try
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You probably already have a news reader program in your computer (Hint: Outlook
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