Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion

[airshowbob]

The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on
the airframe for the first time last Sunday. Everything is working
perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits.

All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of
the wing fuel bladders. I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple
of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. We're expecting the
first flight in May.

I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet
over the last year. Click on the dates to see photos and videos of
the project.

http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html

If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12,
2010), it is located here:

http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html

If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e-
mail...

Bob Carlton
Desert Aerospace, LLC
Albuquerque, NM USA
505-239-5967

[Brian Whatcott]

Which reminds me...

Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?

Brian W

airshowbob wrote:
> The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on
> the airframe for the first time last Sunday. Everything is working
> perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits.
>
> All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of
> the wing fuel bladders. I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple
> of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. We're expecting the
> first flight in May.
>
> I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet
> over the last year. Click on the dates to see photos and videos of
> the project.
>
> http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html
>
> If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12,
> 2010), it is located here:
>
> http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html
>
> If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e-
> mail...
>
> Bob Carlton
> Desert Aerospace, LLC
> Albuquerque, NM USA
> 505-239-5967
>

[airshowbob[_2_]]

Caproni only built a few gliders with the jet engine (I believe only
4). At least a couple are still flying. I heard the Australian Air
Force bought the production rights, but I haven't heard any more.
Some German guys have parts to build several. They are also looking
at the TJ-100 engine.

I believe the Caproni/TRS-18 wasn't the best combination. The
airframe was very heavy, and the engine was too small. Jets aren't
known for their short field performance. Pushing the extra weight to
liftoff speed took a lot of runway. The mechanical fuel control made
the engine overly complicated and finicky (after all, that was 30
years ago). Basically, it was too much, too soon. But, at least they
tried...

Others have tried as well. The earliest attempt at a jet sailplane I
can find is the Hanle/Hutter H-13 (predecessor to the Libelle &
Salto) . It had a huge BMW turbine stuffed behind the wing spar. The
engine probably weighed as much as the airframe, with maybe 60 lbs
thrust.

Bob

On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:
> Which reminds me...
>
> Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> Brian W
>
> airshowbob wrote:
> > The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on
> > the airframe for the first time last Sunday. *Everything is working
> > perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits.
>
> > All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of
> > the wing fuel bladders. *I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple
> > of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. *We're expecting the
> > first flight in May.
>
> > *I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet
> > over the last year. *Click on the dates to see photos and videos of
> > the project.
>
> >http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html


>
> > If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12,
> > 2010), it is located here:
>
> >http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html
>
> > If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e-
> > mail...
>
> > Bob Carlton
> > Desert Aerospace, LLC
> > Albuquerque, NM USA
> > 505-239-5967
> >

[Mike the Strike]

On Apr 14, 7:40*pm, airshowbob > wrote:
> Caproni only built a few gliders with the jet engine (I believe only
> 4). *At least a couple are still flying. *I heard the Australian Air
> Force bought the production rights, but I haven't heard any more.
> Some German guys have parts to build several. *They are also looking
> at the TJ-100 engine.
>
> I believe the Caproni/TRS-18 wasn't the best combination. *The
> airframe was very heavy, and the engine was too small. *Jets aren't
> known for their short field performance. *Pushing the extra weight to
> liftoff speed took a lot of runway. *The mechanical fuel control made
> the engine overly complicated and finicky (after all, that was 30
> years ago). *Basically, it was too much, too soon. *But, at least they
> tried...
>
> Others have tried as well. *The earliest attempt at a jet sailplane I
> can find is the Hanle/Hutter H-13 (predecessor to the Libelle &
> Salto) . *It had a huge BMW turbine stuffed behind the wing spar. *The
> engine probably weighed as much as the airframe, with maybe 60 lbs
> thrust.
>
> Bob
>
> On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:
>
> > Which reminds me...
>
> > Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> > Brian W
>
> > airshowbob wrote:
> > > The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on
> > > the airframe for the first time last Sunday. *Everything is working
> > > perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits.
>
> > > All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of
> > > the wing fuel bladders. *I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple
> > > of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. *We're expecting the
> > > first flight in May.
>
> > > *I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet
> > > over the last year. *Click on the dates to see photos and videos of
> > > the project.
>
> > >http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html
>
> > > If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12,
> > > 2010), it is located here:
>
> > >http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html
>
> > > If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e-
> > > mail...
>
> > > Bob Carlton
> > > Desert Aerospace, LLC
> > > Albuquerque, NM USA
> > > 505-239-5967
> > >

I had an old colleague with a standard (non-jet) Caproni. I think the
wings contained plutonium or some other very heavy metal. The ship is
VERY heavy. The take-off run behind the club's strongest towplane was
notably excruciating - I didn't know that our runways were that long!
In the air, it handled well, and I actually liked the side-by-side
seating, but, gosh, it was a heavy brute.

Mike

[Frank Whiteley]

On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:
> Which reminds me...
>
> Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> Brian W
>
There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. There is
also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm
climb rate near sea level reported.

Frank Whiteley

[SoaringXCellence]

On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:> Which reminds me...
>
> > Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> > Brian W
>
> There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is
> also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm
> climb rate near sea level reported.
>
> Frank Whiteley

There is NOT one in Oregon. I tried to locate both the ship and the
owner two years ago. Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in
Australia.

Mike

[Dave Nadler]

On Apr 15, 3:12*am, SoaringXCellence > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:> Which reminds me...
>
> > > Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> > > Brian W
>
> > There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is
> > also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm
> > climb rate near sea level reported.
>
> > Frank Whiteley
>
> There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the
> owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in
> Australia.
>
> Mike

Last summer at the 18m nats there was an A21 tied
down on the ramp at Ephrata Washington. I thought
perhaps a jet model ? Anybody know ?

See ya, Dave "YO electric"

[Frank Whiteley]

On Apr 15, 1:12*am, SoaringXCellence > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:> Which reminds me...
>
> > > Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> > > Brian W
>
> > There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is
> > also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm
> > climb rate near sea level reported.
>
> > Frank Whiteley
>
> There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the
> owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in
> Australia.
>
> Mike

On an extended walk about, eh?

Perhaps we'll hear from OZ.

Frank

[Frank Whiteley]

On Apr 15, 5:14*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> On Apr 15, 3:12*am, SoaringXCellence > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:> Which reminds me...
>
> > > > Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> > > > Brian W
>
> > > There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is
> > > also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm
> > > climb rate near sea level reported.
>
> > > Frank Whiteley
>
> > There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the
> > owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in
> > Australia.
>
> > Mike
>
> Last summer at the 18m nats there was an A21 tied
> down on the ramp at Ephrata Washington. I thought
> perhaps a jet model ? Anybody know ?
>
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"

Different summer, same location
http://flightlog.seven-alpha.com/ca.html

[Craig[_2_]]

On Apr 15, 4:14*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> On Apr 15, 3:12*am, SoaringXCellence > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:> Which reminds me...
>
> > > > Whatever happened to the Caproni jet?
>
> > > > Brian W
>
> > > There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is
> > > also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm
> > > climb rate near sea level reported.
>
> > > Frank Whiteley
>
> > There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the
> > owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in
> > Australia.
>
> > Mike
>
> Last summer at the 18m nats there was an A21 tied
> down on the ramp at Ephrata Washington. I thought
> perhaps a jet model ? Anybody know ?
>
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"

The A21 in Ephrata does have a jet and belongs to Dave Harris of BD5
jet fame. It's been beautifully done and reportedly moves out quite
smartly.
Craig