The Oudies Have Arrived

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS) the
selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm

All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more are
on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been sold
yet.

The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that it
is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable to
work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
GPS-NAV.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349

For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged or
nearly so.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

[Richard[_9_]]

On Apr 14, 9:28*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. *They are very nice!
> There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. *For
> example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS) the
> selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more are
> on the way to me which should arrive next week. *They have not all been sold
> yet.
>
> The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> GPS-NAV. *I have them in stock (see link below). *The nuts can be removed,
> but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. *I feel that it
> is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> to fall off in flight. *The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable to
> work. *It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> voltage level converter. *I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. *The 302 seems to
> provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged or
> nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

Craggy Aero, LLC has Oudies available & Wings & Wheels I believe also
have Oudies Available.

Craggy Aero provides no charge support. Almost all the time ,
including evenings, weekends and holidays.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Bob 7U]

Hi Paul,

Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
Cambridge software.

Bob 7U


On Apr 14, 12:28*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. *They are very nice!
> There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. *For
> example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS) the
> selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more are
> on the way to me which should arrive next week. *They have not all been sold
> yet.
>
> The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> GPS-NAV. *I have them in stock (see link below). *The nuts can be removed,
> but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. *I feel that it
> is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> to fall off in flight. *The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable to
> work. *It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> voltage level converter. *I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. *The 302 seems to
> provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged or
> nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

[Mike[_8_]]

On Apr 14, 11:47*am, Richard > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:28*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. *They are very nice!
> > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. *For
> > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS) the
> > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more are
> > on the way to me which should arrive next week. *They have not all been sold
> > yet.
>
> > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> > GPS-NAV. *I have them in stock (see link below). *The nuts can be removed,
> > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. *I feel that it
> > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> > to fall off in flight. *The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable to
> > work. *It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > voltage level converter. *I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. *The 302 seems to
> > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged or
Hi Richard,

Any opinion on the readability compared to the current crop of PNA'a
in direct sunlight?

Thanks,

Mike



> > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> Craggy Aero, LLC has Oudies available & Wings & Wheels I believe also
> have Oudies Available.
>
> Craggy Aero provides no charge support. *Almost all the time ,
> including evenings, weekends and holidays.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

[Richard[_9_]]

On Apr 14, 12:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 11:47*am, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 9:28*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. *They are very nice!
> > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. *For
> > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS) the
> > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> > > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more are
> > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. *They have not all been sold
> > > yet.
>
> > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> > > GPS-NAV. *I have them in stock (see link below). *The nuts can be removed,
> > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. *I feel that it
> > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> > > to fall off in flight. *The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable to
> > > work. *It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > > voltage level converter. *I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. *The 302 seems to
> > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged or
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Any opinion on the readability compared to the current crop of *PNA'a
> in direct sunlight?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > Craggy Aero, LLC has Oudies available & Wings & Wheels I believe also
> > have Oudies Available.
>
> > Craggy Aero provides no charge support. *Almost all the time ,
> > including evenings, weekends and holidays.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I think that it is more readable because it is larger than the current
PNA devices. But compared to the Craggy Aero Ultimate not.

http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Paul Remde]

Hi Bob,

I don't know for certain. The unit is setup to be specific to running
Mobile and ConnectMe. I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
Explorer is even installed in the unit. It is possible to copy files to the
Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.

SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight log
security after download.

Best Regards,

--
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.


"Bob 7U" > wrote in message
...
Hi Paul,

Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
Cambridge software.

Bob 7U


On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS)
> the
> selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more
> are
> on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> sold
> yet.
>
> The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
> but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that
> it
> is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable
> to
> work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged
> or
> nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

[Paul Remde]

Hi Mike,

I brought my Oudie out into bright sunlight today. I didn't have my iPAQ
310 with me at the time. The Oudie was OK in sunlight. Like all PDAs and
PNAs it is not great in sunlight, but it seemed a lot better than my iPAQ
hx4700. It is nothing like a ClearNav in regard to sunlight readability,
but it costs a lot less than a ClearNav.

My iPAQ 310 is for sale for $195.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Mike" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 14, 11:47 am, Richard > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:28 am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS)
> > the
> > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM
> > 1:
> > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more
> > are
> > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > sold
> > yet.
>
> > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts
> > on
> > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to
> > a
> > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
> > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that
> > it
> > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want
> > it
> > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable
> > to
> > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the
> > Cambridge
> > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1
> > cable
> > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged
> > or
Hi Richard,

Any opinion on the readability compared to the current crop of PNA'a
in direct sunlight?

Thanks,

Mike



> > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> Craggy Aero, LLC has Oudies available & Wings & Wheels I believe also
> have Oudies Available.
>
> Craggy Aero provides no charge support. Almost all the time ,
> including evenings, weekends and holidays.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

[Richard[_9_]]

On Apr 14, 1:37*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> I don't know for certain. *The unit is setup to be specific to running
> Mobile and ConnectMe. *I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
> Explorer is even installed in the unit. *It is possible to copy files to the
> Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight log
> security after download.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> --
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Hi Paul,
>
> Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> Cambridge software.
>
> Bob 7U
>
> On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS)
> > the
> > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more
> > are
> > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > sold
> > yet.
>
> > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
> > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that
> > it
> > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable
> > to
> > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged
> > or
> > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bob,

To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. This is something we
would probably have to ask SeeYou to do.

I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Bob 7U]

Thanks Paul, thanks Richard,
I'm sure you will playing with these units in the days to come and
reporting back.

ConnectMe works a charm with the only snag being that it produces a
'Grey' score line on the OLC.
Maybe this is something the OLC people can fix or Naviter might look
at including the ability to run the Cambridge utility.

Bob 7U


On Apr 14, 4:48*pm, Richard > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 1:37*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Bob,
>
> > I don't know for certain. *The unit is setup to be specific to running
> > Mobile and ConnectMe. *I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> > Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
> > Explorer is even installed in the unit. *It is possible to copy files to the
> > Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> > SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight log
> > security after download.
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > --
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> ....
> > Hi Paul,
>
> > Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> > I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> > Cambridge software.
>
> > Bob 7U
>
> > On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS)
> > > the
> > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> > > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more
> > > are
> > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > > sold
> > > yet.
>
> > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> > > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
> > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that
> > > it
> > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> > > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable
> > > to
> > > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged
> > > or
> > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Bob,
>
> To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
> certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. *This is something we
> would probably *have to ask SeeYou *to do.
>
> I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
> access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

[Paul Remde]

Hi Bob,

I think you are doing something wrong in the flight log download. A flight
log downloaded by ConnectMe is exactly the same as a flight log downloaded
by the 300 Utility. I suspect that you are submitting a flight log
generated by the SeeYou Mobile "PDA logger".

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Bob 7U" > wrote in message
...
Thanks Paul, thanks Richard,
I'm sure you will playing with these units in the days to come and
reporting back.

ConnectMe works a charm with the only snag being that it produces a
'Grey' score line on the OLC.
Maybe this is something the OLC people can fix or Naviter might look
at including the ability to run the Cambridge utility.

Bob 7U


On Apr 14, 4:48 pm, Richard > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 1:37 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Bob,
>
> > I don't know for certain. The unit is setup to be specific to running
> > Mobile and ConnectMe. I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> > Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
> > Explorer is even installed in the unit. It is possible to copy files to
> > the
> > Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> > SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight
> > log
> > security after download.
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > --
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > Hi Paul,
>
> > Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> > I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> > Cambridge software.
>
> > Bob 7U
>
> > On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal
> > > GPS)
> > > the
> > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used
> > > (COM 1:
> > > Internal, COM 4: Serial,
> > > etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many
> > > more
> > > are
> > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > > sold
> > > yet.
>
> > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has
> > > nuts on
> > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it
> > > to a
> > > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be
> > > removed,
> > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel
> > > that
> > > it
> > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't
> > > want it
> > > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the
> > > cable
> > > to
> > > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the
> > > Cambridge
> > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1
> > > cable
> > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully
> > > charged
> > > or
> > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Bob,
>
> To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
> certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. This is something we
> would probably have to ask SeeYou to do.
>
> I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
> access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

[Bob 7U]

I know that I will get a 'grey' score using the GNII utility and I was
fairly certain that the ConnectMe download did the same thing.
I will try doing it both ways next weekend for sure.

Bob 7U

On Apr 14, 5:33*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> I think you are doing something wrong in the flight log download. *A flight
> log downloaded by ConnectMe is exactly the same as a flight log downloaded
> by the 300 Utility. *I suspect that you are submitting a flight log
> generated by the SeeYou Mobile "PDA logger".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Thanks Paul, thanks Richard,
> I'm sure you will playing with these units in the days to come and
> reporting back.
>
> ConnectMe *works a charm with the only snag being that it produces a
> 'Grey' score line on the OLC.
> Maybe this is something the OLC people can fix or Naviter might look
> at including the ability to run the Cambridge utility.
>
> Bob 7U
>
> On Apr 14, 4:48 pm, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 1:37 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi Bob,
>
> > > I don't know for certain. The unit is setup to be specific to running
> > > Mobile and ConnectMe. I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> > > Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
> > > Explorer is even installed in the unit. It is possible to copy files to
> > > the
> > > Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> > > SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight
> > > log
> > > security after download.
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > --
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > > "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> > ....
> > > Hi Paul,
>
> > > Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> > > I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> > > Cambridge software.
>
> > > Bob 7U
>
> > > On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal
> > > > GPS)
> > > > the
> > > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used
> > > > (COM 1:
> > > > Internal, COM 4: Serial,
> > > > etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many
> > > > more
> > > > are
> > > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > > > sold
> > > > yet.
>
> > > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has
> > > > nuts on
> > > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it
> > > > to a
> > > > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be
> > > > removed,
> > > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel
> > > > that
> > > > it
> > > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't
> > > > want it
> > > > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the
> > > > cable
> > > > to
> > > > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > > > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the
> > > > Cambridge
> > > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1
> > > > cable
> > > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully
> > > > charged
> > > > or
> > > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > > Best Regards,
>
> > > > Paul Remde
> > > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Bob,
>
> > To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
> > certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. This is something we
> > would probably have to ask SeeYou to do.
>
> > I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
> > access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com

[Paul Remde]

Hi Bob,

GN II (and ConnectMe) can download a perfectly secure and legal flight log
from a 302. It would be identical to a flight log downloaded by the 300
Utility. I suspect that you are trying to submit a flight log generated by
GN II's "PDA logger". Take a look at the file name before you upload the
flight log. It should contain the serial number of the 302.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Bob 7U" > wrote in message
...
I know that I will get a 'grey' score using the GNII utility and I was
fairly certain that the ConnectMe download did the same thing.
I will try doing it both ways next weekend for sure.

Bob 7U

On Apr 14, 5:33 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> I think you are doing something wrong in the flight log download. A flight
> log downloaded by ConnectMe is exactly the same as a flight log downloaded
> by the 300 Utility. I suspect that you are submitting a flight log
> generated by the SeeYou Mobile "PDA logger".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Thanks Paul, thanks Richard,
> I'm sure you will playing with these units in the days to come and
> reporting back.
>
> ConnectMe works a charm with the only snag being that it produces a
> 'Grey' score line on the OLC.
> Maybe this is something the OLC people can fix or Naviter might look
> at including the ability to run the Cambridge utility.
>
> Bob 7U
>
> On Apr 14, 4:48 pm, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 1:37 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi Bob,
>
> > > I don't know for certain. The unit is setup to be specific to running
> > > Mobile and ConnectMe. I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> > > Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether
> > > File
> > > Explorer is even installed in the unit. It is possible to copy files
> > > to
> > > the
> > > Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> > > SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight
> > > log
> > > security after download.
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > --
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > > "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
> > > Hi Paul,
>
> > > Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> > > I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> > > Cambridge software.
>
> > > Bob 7U
>
> > > On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very
> > > > nice!
> > > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use.
> > > > For
> > > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal
> > > > GPS)
> > > > the
> > > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used
> > > > (COM 1:
> > > > Internal, COM 4: Serial,
> > > > etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many
> > > > more
> > > > are
> > > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all
> > > > been
> > > > sold
> > > > yet.
>
> > > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has
> > > > nuts on
> > > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it
> > > > to a
> > > > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be
> > > > removed,
> > > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel
> > > > that
> > > > it
> > > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't
> > > > want it
> > > > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the
> > > > cable
> > > > to
> > > > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in
> > > > RS-232
> > > > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the
> > > > Cambridge
> > > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1
> > > > cable
> > > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems
> > > > to
> > > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully
> > > > charged
> > > > or
> > > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > > Best Regards,
>
> > > > Paul Remde
> > > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Bob,
>
> > To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
> > certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. This is something we
> > would probably have to ask SeeYou to do.
>
> > I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
> > access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com

[Brian Whatcott]

Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies./snip/
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> All 30 of the units received today have already been sold
/snip/

> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

Paul's note reminded me of the impetus that this newsgroup provided
me not so long ago; and (among others) how useful Paul's hints on
loading a PDA with effective displays for the cockpit turned out to be.

In flying from Oklahoma to the Gulf last weekend, I finally had the
opportunity to check out the device that I had loaded.

Sure, not bright in sunlight, but usable. And the quasi-Primary Flight
Display (or call it a quasi-Attitude Director - ADI) was much less handy
than the moving map selection. Seeing a destination airfield on the nose
from 40 miles away was reassuring. In my case, when the Corpus Christi
ATIS warns arrivals not to mistake the similar looking Naval airfield 4
miles SW for Corpus International - that was visually obvious!

The difference that a power feed makes to GPS satellite capture was my
biggest surprise. When I added a simple Garmin for course to Airport,
distance to run, present track, and ETE, my security felt pretty much
iron-clad.

Brian W

[PK]

On Apr 14, 1:48*pm, Richard > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 1:37*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Bob,
>
> > I don't know for certain. *The unit is setup to be specific to running
> > Mobile and ConnectMe. *I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> > Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
> > Explorer is even installed in the unit. *It is possible to copy files to the
> > Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> > SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight log
> > security after download.
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > --
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> ....
> > Hi Paul,
>
> > Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> > I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> > Cambridge software.
>
> > Bob 7U
>
> > On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS)
> > > the
> > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> > > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more
> > > are
> > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > > sold
> > > yet.
>
> > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> > > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
> > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that
> > > it
> > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> > > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable
> > > to
> > > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged
> > > or
> > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Bob,
>
> To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
> certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. *This is something we
> would probably *have to ask SeeYou *to do.
>
> I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
> access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

WinPilot has their version of PNA offered on their website. I see
virtually no threads about it? Out of style? Any input????? 6PK

[Richard[_9_]]

On Apr 17, 10:42*am, PK > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 1:48*pm, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 1:37*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > Hi Bob,
>
> > > I don't know for certain. *The unit is setup to be specific to running
> > > Mobile and ConnectMe. *I don't see an easy way to access Windows File
> > > Explorer to run the Cambridge 300 Utility and I don't know whether File
> > > Explorer is even installed in the unit. *It is possible to copy files to the
> > > Oudie, but I can't see a way to run them.
>
> > > SeeYou ConnectMe will work fine, except that it can't check the flight log
> > > security after download.
>
> > > Best Regards,
>
> > > --
> > > Paul Remde
> > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > > "Bob 7U" > wrote in message
>
> > ....
> > > Hi Paul,
>
> > > Does it run the Cambridge flight download utility?
> > > I know it will have ConnectMe but I was curious about running the
> > > Cambridge software.
>
> > > Bob 7U
>
> > > On Apr 14, 12:28 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > I just received my first batch of Naviter Oudies. They are very nice!
> > > > There are many small software tweaks that make them easier to use. For
> > > > example, when selecting the comm port (the default is the internal GPS)
> > > > the
> > > > selection list includes text which clarifies how each port is used (COM 1:
> > > > Internal, COM 4: Serial, etc.).http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm
>
> > > > All 30 of the units received today have already been sold, but many more
> > > > are
> > > > on the way to me which should arrive next week. They have not all been
> > > > sold
> > > > yet.
>
> > > > The supplied serial cable works well with a 302 or GPS-NAV but has nuts on
> > > > the connector, so a straight through cable is required to connect it to a
> > > > GPS-NAV. I have them in stock (see link below). The nuts can be removed,
> > > > but then there is no simple way to secure it to the GPS-NAV. I feel that
> > > > it
> > > > is important that a secure connection is made because you wouldn't want it
> > > > to fall off in flight. The 12V power leads must be powered for the cable
> > > > to
> > > > work. It supplies 5V power to the Oudie and also has a built-in RS-232
> > > > voltage level converter. I recommend this cable for use with the Cambridge
> > > > GPS-NAV.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cai_prices.htm#HA-349
>
> > > > For the Cambridge 302 and other devices I recommend the Oudie-PS5a-1 cable
> > > > because they pass 5V power from the 302 to the Oudie. The 302 seems to
> > > > provide enough power for the Oudie as long as the Oudie is fully charged
> > > > or
> > > > nearly so.http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm#Oudie-PS5a-1
>
> > > > Best Regards,
>
> > > > Paul Remde
> > > > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Bob,
>
> > To run the CAI utility the correct nav path would have to be set and
> > certain .dlls would need to be auto installed. *This is something we
> > would probably *have to ask SeeYou *to do.
>
> > I have the Ultimate running the CAI Utility, but I have much more
> > access to the operating system and the registry on the Ultimate.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> WinPilot has their version of PNA offered on their website. I see
> virtually no threads about it? Out of style? Any input????? 6PK- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

PK,

I use and sell both SeeYou & WinPilot. They both are great soaring
programs and run well on the CE 5.0 platforms. The CE 5.0 operating
system that the Oudie and WinPilot PNA use are in my opinion much more
stable that the Windows Mobile platforms. The WinPilot PNA is very
similiar to the Oudie. These devices are about the same as the PDAs
in the sunlight but are larger so easier to see and are much more
stable than the PDAs. Both programs also run well on the Craggy Aero
Ultimate which runs CE 5.0 and is the best available as far as
sunlight readabilty. I have compared to all the current devices
offered. The Ultimate is a SeeYou mobile supported device.

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

http://www.craggyaero.com/WinPilot.htm

http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm

Richard
www.craggyaero.com