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John S. Shinal
February 27th 04, 09:03 PM
In a recent thread on F-35 variants, I noticed that the Marine
Corps version doesn't appear to be CTOL for carrier ops, rather STOVL.

Will Marine squadrons eventually operate in the STOVL regime
from big decks, or what ?

Will JSF be a plane for plane, squadron for squadron swap with
both Harrier and Hornet operators ?



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Guy Alcala
February 28th 04, 10:41 PM
"John S. Shinal" wrote:

> In a recent thread on F-35 variants, I noticed that the Marine
> Corps version doesn't appear to be CTOL for carrier ops, rather STOVL.
>
> Will Marine squadrons eventually operate in the STOVL regime
> from big decks, or what ?

If they need to, sure. There was a decision made a year or two ago that USMC and USN
aviation assets were to be combined, which made the marines think they would be forced
to buy some CV-versions of the F-35. I don't know what the current status of this
is.

> Will JSF be a plane for plane, squadron for squadron swap with
> both Harrier and Hornet operators ?

I imagine that depends on what happens with UCAVs.

Guy

Henry J Cobb
February 29th 04, 09:25 PM
John S. Shinal wrote:
> In a recent thread on F-35 variants, I noticed that the Marine
> Corps version doesn't appear to be CTOL for carrier ops, rather STOVL.
>
> Will Marine squadrons eventually operate in the STOVL regime
> from big decks, or what ?
>
> Will JSF be a plane for plane, squadron for squadron swap with
> both Harrier and Hornet operators ?

Only for the ground based squadrons.

The carrier marines will fly Super Hornets.

So that they can refuel the Navy's F35-Cs. ;-)

-HJC

Keith Willshaw
February 29th 04, 11:21 PM
"Henry J Cobb" > wrote in message
...

> >
> > Will JSF be a plane for plane, squadron for squadron swap with
> > both Harrier and Hornet operators ?
>
> Only for the ground based squadrons.
>

Bull**** Henry

The USMC fly Harriers from their LHA's and LHD's
I dont doubt they will do the same with the JSF

Keith

Thomas Schoene
March 1st 04, 12:25 AM
Henry J Cobb wrote:
> John S. Shinal wrote:
>> In a recent thread on F-35 variants, I noticed that the Marine
>> Corps version doesn't appear to be CTOL for carrier ops, rather
>> STOVL.
>>
>> Will Marine squadrons eventually operate in the STOVL regime
>> from big decks, or what ?
>>
>> Will JSF be a plane for plane, squadron for squadron swap with
>> both Harrier and Hornet operators ?
>
> Only for the ground based squadrons.
>
> The carrier marines will fly Super Hornets.

The Marines have no intention whatsoever of flying Super Hornets. The
official goal is still to replace all the Hornets and Harriers with STOVL
JSFs (close to 1:1, I think). If they decide they can't fly STOVL F-35s
from carriers (a topic of considerable debate between the services right
now, I understand), they'll have to buy some of the CV version instead.

> So that they can refuel the Navy's F35-Cs. ;-)

Make that F-35C. It matters where you put the hyphens.


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Andrew C. Toppan
March 1st 04, 01:28 AM
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:25:31 -0800, Henry J Cobb > wrote:

>Only for the ground based squadrons.
>The carrier marines will fly Super Hornets.

You are truly clueless....the Marines have no plan to buy Super
Hornets. None.

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Woody Beal
March 2nd 04, 04:19 AM
On 2/29/04 19:28, in article ,
"Andrew C. Toppan" > wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:25:31 -0800, Henry J Cobb > wrote:
>
>> Only for the ground based squadrons.
>> The carrier marines will fly Super Hornets.
>
> You are truly clueless....the Marines have no plan to buy Super
> Hornets. None.
>
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>

The USMC hates the Super Hornet as much as it hated the Tomcat.

--Woody

Guy Alcala
March 2nd 04, 06:20 AM
Woody Beal wrote:

<snip>

> The USMC hates the Super Hornet as much as it hated the Tomcat.

Not a question of hate (as long as they're not forced to take any), more
like they have no need of them for their missions. They have no wish to
throw money away on F-18E/Fs, when they want to replace both AV-8Bs and
F-18s with F-35Bs.

Guy

Ogden Johnson III
March 2nd 04, 06:41 PM
Woody Beal > wrote:

>"Andrew C. Toppan" > wrote:

>>Henry J Cobb > wrote:

>>> Only for the ground based squadrons.
>>> The carrier marines will fly Super Hornets.

>> You are truly clueless....the Marines have no plan to buy Super
>> Hornets. None.

>The USMC hates the Super Hornet as much as it hated the Tomcat.

We don't *hate* them, they just aren't appropriate to USMC
mission needs. Which differs from USN and USAF mission needs.
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