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Tony[_5_]
May 3rd 10, 05:31 PM
Yesterday I was alerted that Tim Taylor was going to make a 1000 km
attempt out of Logan, UT today. Well it looks like he is up and
running. Should be fun to watch.
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0taQlL3JAG6KN4kmWsafqtOp6HJb5Z7 rm
On May 3, 12:31*pm, Tony > wrote:
> Yesterday I was alerted that Tim Taylor was going to make a 1000 km
> attempt out of Logan, UT today. *Well it looks like he is up and
> running. Should be fun to watch.
>
> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0taQlL3JA....
Beats workin' :-).
-T8
On May 3, 1:19*pm, T8 > wrote:
> On May 3, 12:31*pm, Tony > wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was alerted that Tim Taylor was going to make a 1000 km
> > attempt out of Logan, UT today. *Well it looks like he is up and
> > running. Should be fun to watch.
>
> >http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0taQlL3JA....
>
> Beats workin' :-).
>
> -T8
Oops... there goes the "Help" message.
-T8
HELP message at 1044 AM!
Jim
Devin Bargainnier
May 3rd 10, 06:53 PM
Looks like a nice field, But a long walk to the bar.
On May 3, 10:53*am, Devin Bargainnier > wrote:
> Looks like a nice field, But a long walk to the bar.
Bar? In Utah?
Only a 67 mile drive from Logan.
Jim
On May 3, 10:58*am, JS > wrote:
> On May 3, 10:53*am, Devin Bargainnier > wrote:
>
> > Looks like a nice field, But a long walk to the bar.
>
> Bar? In Utah?
> Only a 67 mile drive from Logan.
> Jim
Ah, Idaho! Still a long walk.
Jim
Tony[_5_]
May 3rd 10, 07:08 PM
bummer!!!
A bunch of Help messages. I hope he's okay!
Looks like a nice field. And only 10 or 12 miles from the Malad City
Airport.
Seemed like an awfully early start, even for a 1000k.
Grider Pirate
May 3rd 10, 07:14 PM
On May 3, 11:08*am, Tony > wrote:
> bummer!!!
Are you kidding?? He landed out an hour before I could reasonably
expect to stay aloft from my field, and after flying for HOURS! On
top of that, he's flown today, while most of us have to go to work! A
bad day of flying, beats........
On May 3, 11:12*am, Tuno > wrote:
> A bunch of Help messages. I hope he's okay!
Probably found some shade in the area to the North. A good idea to
move around if you send help messages. Excellent proof of concept.
Jim
Frank Whiteley
May 3rd 10, 09:33 PM
On May 3, 12:15*pm, JS > wrote:
> On May 3, 11:12*am, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > A bunch of Help messages. I hope he's okay!
>
> Probably found some shade in the area to the North. A good idea to
> move around if you send help messages. Excellent proof of concept.
> Jim
Okay message an hour ago. Coordinates point to a nice field on Google
Earth.
Frank Whiteley
Hands up all who zoomed in to look for the glider parked facing west
near to the gate in that field! The image is probably from years ago.
Hopefully we get a report on how the field actually was.
Nice try, Tim.
Jim
On May 3, 1:33*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
> Okay message an hour ago. *Coordinates point to a nice field on Google
> Earth.
>
> Frank Whiteley
Wayne Paul
May 3rd 10, 11:03 PM
The Google Maps/GoogleEarth satellite image of Tim's landing plot is dated May 24, 2005.
Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/
"JS" > wrote in message ...
Hands up all who zoomed in to look for the glider parked facing west
near to the gate in that field! The image is probably from years ago.
Hopefully we get a report on how the field actually was.
Nice try, Tim.
Jim
Grider Pirate
May 4th 10, 12:02 AM
On May 3, 2:46*pm, "Stephen!" > wrote:
> Grider Pirate > wrote in news:9d83f949-edf2-461e-
> :
>
> > A bad day of flying, beats........
>
> * I would *much* rather be down here wishing I was up there than up there
> wishing I was down here...
>
> --
> RCOS #7
> IBA# 11465http://imagesdesavions.com
??? My lack of experience is showing. Under what circumstances would
you be "up there wishing I was down here"? I have only 710 hours
flying time (all in gliders), and so far, I've never wished I was on
the ground instead of in the air.
Ron Gleason
May 4th 10, 12:18 AM
I am sure Tim will provide an excellent write up when he has time. He
is a professor at the local University and he was able to sneak away
today during finals. This flight attempt was many days in the
making. Tim has been scouting out the weather patterns, length of day
light, flight paths, etc for a 1000KM flight in north Utah for many
years. He called this attempt on Friday, coordinated the tow and
planned on wheels up at 8am. He made a great attempt and I am
convinced he will obtain his 1000K flight in UT soon. He did comment,
via his iPhone after walking 2 miles to get a signal, that he thought
the SPOT device would send 2 HELP signals and then stop. Once he
understood that it will send the HELP signal for a long period of
time, he turned the device off.
many folks locally were watching and kicked in gear to arrange the
retrieve.
Good luck at your next attempt Tim!
Ron Gleason
Bob Whelan[_3_]
May 4th 10, 01:12 AM
On 5/3/2010 5:02 PM, Grider Pirate wrote:
<Intervening snips...>
>>
>> I would *much* rather be down here wishing I was up there than up there
>> wishing I was down here...
>>
>
> ??? My lack of experience is showing. Under what circumstances would
> you be "up there wishing I was down here"? I have only 710 hours
> flying time (all in gliders), and so far, I've never wished I was on
> the ground instead of in the air.
Heh. With luck, you'll never have to know in a 'first-hand' sense! Two
of my 3 microburst encounters had me wishing I was on the
ground...*while they were happening*!!! Yes, they were the first two.
No, I hope to never repeat the experiences. I 'got lucky' on the third
one...it wasn't nearly as bad as No.'s 1 & 2.
Be careful what you wish for...
Bob W.
Andy[_1_]
May 4th 10, 05:10 PM
On May 3, 7:48*pm, "Stephen!" > wrote:
>If you honestly cannot think of a situation that would make you wish you
>were on the ground *RIGHT NOW* perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your risk
>analysis process... ;)
For gliders that's probably true. I have several times in my 30 years
of flying gliders wished that I had a lot more altitude *RIGHT NOW*,
but I don't remember ever wishing I were on the ground *RIGHT NOW*.
Altitude solves most problems. Ground contact solves few problems and
presents many.
Andy
On May 4, 12:10*pm, Andy > wrote:
> On May 3, 7:48*pm, "Stephen!" > wrote:
>
> >If you honestly cannot think of a situation that would make you wish you
> >were on the ground *RIGHT NOW* perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your risk
> >analysis process... *;)
>
> For gliders that's probably true. *I have several times in my 30 years
> of flying gliders wished that I had a lot more altitude *RIGHT NOW*,
> but I don't remember ever wishing I were on the ground *RIGHT NOW*.
>
> Altitude solves most problems. Ground contact solves few problems and
> presents many.
>
> Andy
Maybe not "I wish I was on the ground RIGHT NOW" but plenty of times
where I would think " I wish I had landed 30 minutes ago !" or had
not even taken off.
Todd
Frank[_12_]
May 6th 10, 03:50 AM
On May 3, 7:18*pm, Ron Gleason > wrote:
> I am sure Tim will provide an excellent write up when he has time. *He
> is a professor at the local University and he was able to sneak away
> today during finals. *This flight attempt was many days in the
> making. *Tim has been scouting out the weather patterns, length of day
> light, flight paths, etc for a 1000KM flight in north Utah for many
> years. *He called this attempt on Friday, coordinated the tow and
> planned on wheels up at 8am. *He made a great attempt and I am
> convinced he will obtain his 1000K flight in UT soon. *He did comment,
> via his iPhone after walking 2 miles to get a signal, that he thought
> the SPOT device would send 2 HELP signals and then stop. *Once he
> understood *that it will send the HELP signal for a long period of
> time, he turned the device off.
>
> many folks locally were watching and kicked in gear to arrange the
> retrieve.
>
> Good luck at your next attempt Tim!
>
> Ron Gleason
HELP messages go out continually for something like 30 minutes, just
to make sure at least one gets through. I normally leave mine on, as
there is no assurance that the first few get through - better too many
messages than not enough. When my wife calls and innocently asks me
"how's your day going dear?", then I know to turn it OFF ;-).
On the issue of moving around while the HELP messages are going out -
wonder if you can spell out "OK" or "RETRIEVE" with consecutive HELP
fixes. In my case, it would probably be more like "DARN" as I
wandered around kicking objects ;-).
TA
Tim Taylor
May 6th 10, 11:27 AM
On May 3, 10:31*am, Tony > wrote:
> Yesterday I was alerted that Tim Taylor was going to make a 1000 km
> attempt out of Logan, UT today. *Well it looks like he is up and
> running. Should be fun to watch.
>
> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0taQlL3JA....
Thanks for all the support and more interest in my flight than I ever
imagined. I am attempting to make a 1000K FAI three point flight
using primarily ridge lift that will require nearly 1250 km to
complete. That is the reason for the early morning start; actually
this was a late start because a minor repair that needed to be
completed on the tow plane Monday morning and the forecast was for
weaker winds in the early morning with conditions getting better as
the day went on.
The forecast a few days ahead of the flight showed we should have a
window for Monday and Tuesday, with Monday likely to have more
sunshine and less likely to have rain. Tuesday was showing that it
should be nearly overcast and rain likely. I was committed to being
at work on Tuesday so that left only Monday for the attempt.
The conditions were weaker than forecast but still flyable. I found
that the winds below 8000 feet MSL (about 3500 feet AGL) were not very
strong and needed to be careful to not drop too low on the ridges. If
you look at my IGC file you will see I got low just after turning
north from Salt Lake City.
We have about 905 KM of ridge available for a FAI three point flight
so you must push the ends of the ridge to make a full 1000 K flight.
This will require either a little bit of thermals or wave on the end
of one leg to accomplish the flight.
I pushed too hard and should have slowed and taken some weaker lift at
Elkhorn Mountain and ended up flying into what I believe was the down
area of some wave from the upwind ridge west of me. I had just had a
good climb from 7200 feet only about 20 miles before so was expecting
the next ridge to work as well.
The weather was not up to the forecast with limited visibility and low
cloudbases when I launched. Many of the peaks were cloud capped to
the north as I started south on the first leg. The forecast was for
nearly 2000 feet higher bases than I was seeing at 8:00 am. I was
limited to less than 10,000 feet on the first two climbs due to clouds
and virga. This made my first leg south slower than normal and
required tentative flying. Fortunately the visibility improved as I
got near Ogden and when I turned north the bases were well above the
ridge. The northern half of the area was still covered in a low
cirrus deck that limited any thermal activity. Even with the
improvements in forecasting hitting the correct window of weather is
still not a very exact science.
On Tuesday the weather was almost perfect and matched what had been
forecast for Monday. I was sitting in final presentations for my
students and could see blue skies, west winds and widely scattered Cu
across the entire task area out the window.
I highly recommend watching the IGC file with IGC Flight Replay and
Google Earth. The low save about 16:00 zulu is worth watching and not
skipping. Remember that this is over a major metropolitan area.
I would like to do this flight first in ridge, then do it a second
time primarily in wave to prove that it can be done. Hope others will
come join us for the ridge running in Utah and Idaho.
Tim (TT)
Free Flight 107
May 6th 10, 10:17 PM
On May 6, 3:27*am, Tim Taylor > wrote:
> On May 3, 10:31*am, Tony > wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was alerted that Tim Taylor was going to make a 1000 km
> > attempt out of Logan, UT today. *Well it looks like he is up and
> > running. Should be fun to watch.
>
> >http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0taQlL3JA....
>
Tim,
The link gives me a "Feed not found Feed with Id: 0taQlL3JA not
found" msg, what up?
Wayne Walker
Tim Taylor
May 6th 10, 10:21 PM
On May 6, 3:17*pm, Free Flight 107 > wrote:
> On May 6, 3:27*am, Tim Taylor > wrote:> On May 3, 10:31*am, Tony > wrote:
>
> > > Yesterday I was alerted that Tim Taylor was going to make a 1000 km
> > > attempt out of Logan, UT today. *Well it looks like he is up and
> > > running. Should be fun to watch.
>
> > >http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0taQlL3JA...
>
> Tim,
> The link gives me a "Feed not found *Feed with Id: 0taQlL3JA not
> found" msg, what up?
>
> Wayne Walker
Looks like the link has been truncated. Best to go off the SSA tracker
page 7.
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