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Mitchell Holman[_3_]
May 8th 10, 02:27 PM

Alan Erskine[_4_]
May 9th 10, 02:23 AM
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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Magnificent machine.

Morgans[_2_]
May 9th 10, 02:59 AM
"Alan Erskine" > wrote

> Magnificent machine.

Indeed!

It is so good to see them flying, and working; working a different mission,
but working.
--
Jim in NC

John Szalay[_2_]
May 9th 10, 03:08 AM
"Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:f8oFn.23738
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> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> Magnificent machine.
>

When she was first designed, she was designed as a bomber.
later redesigned for the transport role..

found photos in the LIFE archives of the christening & launch

prototype XPB2M-1 Mars, prototype Martin Model 170
(While it was still thought to be a bomber...)

A view of a bomber during its christening.
Date taken: 1941
Photographer: Thomas D. Mcavoy

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/dd0ca4e5e74aff38_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/06a9a6ede7342b05_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/501e0d71b0eceea3_large

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the whole story...
Its launching into Dark Head Creek on November 5, 1941,
http://www.marylandaviationmuseum.org/history/martin_aircraft/14_mars.html

flybywire
May 9th 10, 09:53 AM
stunning

reminds me of the ice pilots programme on tv - planes not weather !
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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Alan Erskine[_4_]
May 9th 10, 04:21 PM
"John Szalay" <john.szalay.at.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> When she was first designed, she was designed as a bomber.
> later redesigned for the transport role..
>
> found photos in the LIFE archives of the christening & launch
>
> prototype XPB2M-1 Mars, prototype Martin Model 170
> (While it was still thought to be a bomber...)
>
> A view of a bomber during its christening.
> Date taken: 1941
> Photographer: Thomas D. Mcavoy
>
> http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/dd0ca4e5e74aff38_large
> http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/06a9a6ede7342b05_large
> http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/501e0d71b0eceea3_large
>
> ======
> the whole story...
> Its launching into Dark Head Creek on November 5, 1941,
> http://www.marylandaviationmuseum.org/history/martin_aircraft/14_mars.html
>

Thanks for the additional information on these beautiful beasts. I'd love
to hear one, but I can't get to America.

Alan Erskine[_4_]
May 9th 10, 04:22 PM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
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> "Alan Erskine" > wrote
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>> Magnificent machine.
>
> Indeed!
>
> It is so good to see them flying, and working; working a different
> mission, but working.
> --
> Jim in NC

But what a job they perform - not many aircraft can do what the Mars does,
and of those that can, not many can drop as much.

Mitchell Holman[_3_]
May 9th 10, 06:59 PM
"Alan Erskine" > wrote in
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> "Morgans" > wrote in message
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>> "Alan Erskine" > wrote
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>>> Magnificent machine.
>>
>> Indeed!
>>
>> It is so good to see them flying, and working; working a different
>> mission, but working.
>> --
>> Jim in NC
>
> But what a job they perform - not many aircraft can do what the Mars
> does, and of those that can, not many can drop as much.
>
>


I know of at least one that can...........

Morgans[_2_]
May 9th 10, 09:02 PM
"Alan Erskine" > wrote
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> But what a job they perform - not many aircraft can do what the Mars does,
> and of those that can, not many can drop as much.
Yep. I am fascinated by them. There was a CL-215 based near me (HKY, NC)
and I loved it. Like you say, the Mars can drop a hell of a lot more, too!
--
Jim in NC

Morgans[_2_]
May 9th 10, 09:06 PM
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote

>> But what a job they perform - not many aircraft can do what the Mars
>> does, and of those that can, not many can drop as much.
>>
>>
>
>
> I know of at least one that can...........

Not really.

Although the one pictured has a great capacity, it has to return to a
runway, then go drop again. Turn around times of around 45 minutes, or
more. A CL-215 or 414 or a Mars can land on water, usually nearby in the
woodlands, then drop again. Turn around times less than 10 minutes usually,
and sometimes less than 2 minutes.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans[_2_]
May 9th 10, 09:08 PM
"Alan Erskine" > wrote

> Thanks for the additional information on these beautiful beasts. I'd love
> to hear one, but I can't get to America.

North America, you mean?

They are currently based in British Columbia, Canada.
--
Jim in NC

Ken[_3_]
May 11th 10, 03:45 PM
On Sun, 9 May 2010 16:08:08 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:


>They are currently based in British Columbia, Canada.


Couple os things....as I remember the contract for sale of the Mars it
said something about if one was lost the other would become a museum
aircraft in Port Alberni, BC....same if they were retired...Port
Alberni would get one.

The other point....it's Martin Mars not Martians Mars is it not?

CK

John Szalay[_2_]
May 11th 10, 06:03 PM
"Alan Erskine" > wrote in
:
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> Thanks for the additional information on these beautiful beasts. I'd
> love to hear one, but I can't get to America.
>
>

Several more before the launching

Martin Bombers. (Mars prototype)
Location: US
Date taken: 1941
Photographer: George Strock

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/2991ab72ed44b1ed_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/599d22afbf15b10e_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/62d1460f5d599f38_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/506afb8af95edaef_large

Morgans[_2_]
May 12th 10, 05:27 AM
"Ken" > wrote
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> The other point....it's Martin Mars not Martians Mars is it not?

Indeed it is Martin. Might sound better if it is like they are from Mars!
<g> I didn't bother changing what had been previously posted.
--
Jim in NC

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