A Clear Nav, A 1-26, and an Eta

[Tony[_5_]]

So lets say you suddenly came into possession of all 3. The Clear Nav
seems to be about the niftiest of all the nifty flight displays out
there. The 1-26 is currently winning the OLC in the USA, and the Eta
is the hottest of the Open Class. You intend to fly both gliders to
their cross country potential. But the Clear Nav can only go in one
ship, which do you choose?

[mike]

On May 17, 7:14*pm, Tony > wrote:
> So lets say you suddenly came into possession of all 3. *The Clear Nav
> seems to be about the niftiest of all the nifty flight displays out
> there. *The 1-26 is currently winning the OLC in the USA, and the Eta
> is the hottest of the Open Class. *You intend to fly both gliders to
> their cross country potential. *But the Clear Nav can only go in one
> ship, which do you choose?

Neither. Sell the 1-2 6 and ETA, buy a JS1 and a second home.

[KevinFinke]

Throw it in the Eta. On the first marginal day. Take the 1-26 out and
fly it to the field next to the airport. Then walk across the street
and self launch the ETA and enjoy a couple of hours of flying.

:)

But I think Mike has it best. Except, I'd buy a pair of ASW 27's, and
keep one near my first home and the other near my new second home.

[jsbrake[_2_]]

But it seems the intent was to keep both ships... so... how about
buying the RAM mount option and move the Clear Nave between the ships?

[John Cochrane]

On May 17, 8:14*pm, Tony > wrote:
> So lets say you suddenly came into possession of all 3. *The Clear Nav
> seems to be about the niftiest of all the nifty flight displays out
> there. *The 1-26 is currently winning the OLC in the USA, and the Eta
> is the hottest of the Open Class. *You intend to fly both gliders to
> their cross country potential. *But the Clear Nav can only go in one
> ship, which do you choose?

If you can afford an Eta, you can afford 2 clearnavs!
John Cochrane

[Tony[_5_]]

very funny guys.

the reason im wondering is that i have to decide what im going to do
when i win the Clear Nav that the US Team is raffling. At first I
thought I'll just put it in the Cherokee. But then I thought that
would be ridiculous to have such an advanced GPS moving map/
flightcomputer/whatever else it does in such an old low performance
dirt simple glider. But then I wondered if this sort of high tech
device could actually be more useful in a low performance ship than in
a higher performance glider. So I thought "easy! I'll just ask RAS
cause there are plenty of people there that fly high performance
gliders with high tech gizmos". But I'm still wondering.

[mike]

On May 18, 8:51*am, Tony > wrote:
> very funny guys.
>
> the reason im wondering is that i have to decide what im going to do
> when i win the Clear Nav that the US Team is raffling. *At first I
> thought I'll just put it in the Cherokee. But then I thought that
> would be ridiculous to have such an advanced GPS moving map/
> flightcomputer/whatever else it does in such an old low performance
> dirt simple glider. *But then I wondered if this sort of high tech
> device could actually be more useful in a low performance ship than in
> a higher performance glider. *So I thought "easy! I'll just ask RAS
> cause there are plenty of people there that fly high performance
> gliders with high tech gizmos". *But I'm still wondering.

If you have the 12 Volts, it will be handy to have an approved data
logger and a highly visible moving map with a good glide calculator
giving, alt required, etc. Your sailplane value will double.

[kirk.stant]

Well, when I win that Clearnav, I'm going to sell it and buy a
transponder and an Oudie. Nothing against the Clearnav, but it's a
bit large for my panel (LS6 small panel), I like my current SN10/SYM
combo, and I really want a transponder....

The Clearnav sure would look neat in the Cherokee (inset in a nice
varnished wood panel, of course), with a backup pellet vario and
whiskey compass...

Kirk
66

[Tony[_5_]]

On May 18, 11:27*am, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
> Well, when I win that Clearnav, I'm going to sell it and buy a
> transponder and an Oudie. *Nothing against the Clearnav, but it's a
> bit large for my panel (LS6 small panel), I like my current SN10/SYM
> combo, and I really want a transponder....
>
> The Clearnav sure would look neat in the Cherokee (inset in a nice
> varnished wood panel, of course), with a backup pellet vario and
> whiskey compass...
>
> Kirk
> 66

if i win i will have to do just that.

[Bruce]

On 2010/05/18 03:33 PM, John Cochrane wrote:
> On May 17, 8:14 pm, > wrote:
>> So lets say you suddenly came into possession of all 3. The Clear Nav
>> seems to be about the niftiest of all the nifty flight displays out
>> there. The 1-26 is currently winning the OLC in the USA, and the Eta
>> is the hottest of the Open Class. You intend to fly both gliders to
>> their cross country potential. But the Clear Nav can only go in one
>> ship, which do you choose?
>
> If you can afford an Eta, you can afford 2 clearnavs!
> John Cochrane
But you have to admit - one clearnav + 2 RAM mounts is more economical.

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[Ramy]

Jokes aside, the answer is obvious: The higher performance ship needs
more sophisticated instruments to max out it's performance. For
example on final glide in a 1-26 you can eye ball how far you can
glide, on an ETA you'll need a moving map flight computer to get an
idea how far you can glide, how many mountain ranges you'll be able to
cross etc, giving MC setting, wind, bugs etc...

Ramy

Bruce wrote:
> On 2010/05/18 03:33 PM, John Cochrane wrote:
> > On May 17, 8:14 pm, > wrote:
> >> So lets say you suddenly came into possession of all 3. The Clear Nav
> >> seems to be about the niftiest of all the nifty flight displays out
> >> there. The 1-26 is currently winning the OLC in the USA, and the Eta
> >> is the hottest of the Open Class. You intend to fly both gliders to
> >> their cross country potential. But the Clear Nav can only go in one
> >> ship, which do you choose?
> >
> > If you can afford an Eta, you can afford 2 clearnavs!
> > John Cochrane
> But you have to admit - one clearnav + 2 RAM mounts is more economical.
>
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[Martin Gregorie[_5_]]

On Tue, 18 May 2010 07:51:57 -0700, Tony wrote:

> very funny guys.
>
> the reason im wondering is that i have to decide what im going to do
> when i win the Clear Nav that the US Team is raffling. At first I
> thought I'll just put it in the Cherokee.
>
I've a bit more performance that you (Std Libelle) but still low enough
to require caution under the UK's lower cloudbases and weaker thermals,
but when I bought it I immediately replaced its original PZL mechanical
vario and Cambridge Mk4 + speed director with a Borgelt B.40 and an SDI
C4 respectively and would never go back. The B.40 gives an excellent fast
response and has a built-on 9v backup battery while the C4 does
everything I need in the way of averaging, trend reporting, speed
director and L/D calculation. Both have audio output which IMO is a major
safety aid. I normally fly with the B.40 sound off.

Last year I replaced my GPS II+ with a Binatone B350 running XCSoar -
again a great improvement thanks to its airspace display, though this
isn't so important unless you have as much restricted airspace around the
field as we do.

My guess is that fitting a simple audio vario such as a Tasmin V1000 or a
Borgelt B.40 would be a worthwhile exercise.


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