View Full Version : Sunlit images of Silentflight Glide Computer next to IPAQ3850
http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_community&view=photos&userid=62&task=album&albumid=8&Itemid=8
Neither has a mat anti glare covering on the screens which would help
both with definition.
Cheers
Al
Mike[_8_]
May 23rd 10, 04:18 AM
On May 20, 1:59*pm, " >
wrote:
> http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_community&view=photos&us....
>
> Neither has a mat anti glare covering on the screens which would help
> both with definition.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
Looks decent, thanks
Andy[_1_]
May 23rd 10, 02:13 PM
On May 20, 12:59*pm, " >
wrote:
> http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_community&view=photos&us....
>
> Neither has a mat anti glare covering on the screens which would help
> both with definition.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
What is a "Silentflight Glide Computer" The image looks like that
generated by LK8000 but what is the hardware?
Andy
On May 23, 6:13*am, Andy > wrote:
> On May 20, 12:59*pm, " >
> wrote:
>
> >http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_community&view=photos&us...
>
> > Neither has a mat anti glare covering on the screens which would help
> > both with definition.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Al
>
> What is a "Silentflight Glide Computer" *The image looks like that
> generated by LK8000 but what is the hardware?
>
> Andy
Go to Silentflight.com to find out.
Andy[_1_]
May 23rd 10, 11:34 PM
On May 23, 2:39*pm, " >
wrote:
> Go to Silentflight.com to find out.
No answers there, but it appears to be the same as this hardware.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-Navigator-5-Inch-HD-Touch-Screen-Direct-WIN-CE-/250632038247
On May 23, 3:34*pm, Andy > wrote:
> On May 23, 2:39*pm, " >
> wrote:
>
> > Go to Silentflight.com to find out.
>
> No answers there, but it appears to be the same as this hardware.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-Navigator-5-Inch-HD-Touch-Screen-Direct-WIN...
Not that one, that one does not have the COM port.
mike
May 24th 10, 02:37 AM
On May 23, 5:25*pm, " >
wrote:
> On May 23, 3:34*pm, Andy > wrote:
>
> > On May 23, 2:39*pm, " >
> > wrote:
>
> > > Go to Silentflight.com to find out.
>
> > No answers there, but it appears to be the same as this hardware.
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-Navigator-5-Inch-HD-Touch-Screen-Direct-WIN...
>
> Not that one, that one does not have the COM port.
Al,
Is it possible to connect a Cambridge 302A to this without a DB9? You
mentioned a power/data cable for external NMEA.
Thanks,
Mike
ContestID67[_2_]
May 24th 10, 05:43 AM
> Not that one, that one does not have the COM port.
The Silentflight has the same ports as the eBay system mentioned
above. USB in both cases with is a "COM" port.
Andy[_1_]
May 24th 10, 02:19 PM
On May 23, 9:43*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
> > Not that one, that one does not have the COM port.
>
> The Silentflight has the same ports as the eBay system mentioned
> above. *USB in both cases with is a "COM" port.
The issue with connecting to a 302 may be baud rate. I am
experimenting with an HP310 PNA. It does not support the default 302
baud rate, and LK8000 does not (yet) provide the capability to switch
the 302 to a compatible baud rate.
The next question would be - how does the GPS engine if the
Silentflight PNA perform in steeply banked thermal flight. The HP 310
is worthless although it works fine in cruise.
Andy (GY)
Mike[_8_]
May 25th 10, 12:44 AM
On May 24, 7:19*am, Andy > wrote:
> On May 23, 9:43*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > > Not that one, that one does not have the COM port.
>
> > The Silentflight has the same ports as the eBay system mentioned
> > above. *USB in both cases with is a "COM" port.>
> The issue with connecting to a 302 may be baud rate. *I am
> experimenting with an HP310 PNA. It does not support the default 302
> baud rate, and LK8000 does not (yet) provide the capability to switch
> the 302 to a compatible baud rate.
>
> The next question would be - how does the GPS engine if the
> Silentflight PNA perform in steeply banked thermal flight. *The HP 310
> is worthless although it works fine in cruise.
>
> Andy (GY)
Andy, if the PNA's baud rate can be set by XCSoar it should work?
With my IPAQs there has never been a problem connecting the 302A with
XCSoar, which I would use. Seems if Al can connect to other
Cambridges, the 302A should, just wondering how the cable works.
Andy[_1_]
May 25th 10, 01:56 PM
On May 24, 4:44*pm, Mike > wrote:
> Andy, if the PNA's baud rate can be set by XCSoar it should work?
It is my understanding that the HP31x will not support 4800 baud even
if the port configuration menu of XCSoar or LK8000 suggests that it
can be selected. So I'm curious to know if this PNA will actually
support 4800 baud.
The 302 can be configured for higher baud rates according the the port
specification document but it defaults to 4800 on next power up.
Andy
Tuno
May 25th 10, 03:59 PM
Not to drag the thread off topic but does XCSoar (or KL8000) play well
with LX5000/700x systems?
Like the 302, these devices provide pressure data (vario, airspeed,
etc) via "WinPilot" sentences (but at a much higher baud rate). I
prefer my PDA software to leverage these pressure data for its
calculations where appropriate and not rely strictly on NMEA. (I can't
imagine a thermal assistant or bread crumb implimentation that does
not use real vario pressure data.)
I've browsed the XCSoar wiki but unable to come up with a clear
answer.
ted/2NO
Wayne Paul
May 25th 10, 04:15 PM
I don't know the answer; however, here is the place where my may be able to find it.
http://www.postfrontal.com/forum/default.asp?CAT_ID=11
Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com
"Tuno" > wrote in message ...
> Not to drag the thread off topic but does XCSoar (or KL8000) play well
> with LX5000/700x systems?
>
> Like the 302, these devices provide pressure data (vario, airspeed,
> etc) via "WinPilot" sentences (but at a much higher baud rate). I
> prefer my PDA software to leverage these pressure data for its
> calculations where appropriate and not rely strictly on NMEA. (I can't
> imagine a thermal assistant or bread crumb implimentation that does
> not use real vario pressure data.)
>
> I've browsed the XCSoar wiki but unable to come up with a clear
> answer.
>
> ted/2NO
Andy[_1_]
May 25th 10, 04:47 PM
On May 25, 7:59*am, Tuno > wrote:
>I can't imagine a thermal assistant or bread crumb implimentation that does
> not use real vario pressure data.)
One of the attactions of an HP 310 with LK8000 was the expectation
that it would provide a fully portable system that I could use when
instructing or flying solo XC in club gliders. In other words, the
expectation that it would work without needing an intelligent vario
was significant to me. However, the internal GPS does not track the
glider position properly in thermals and it therefore cannot produce a
circling wind estimate. Most of the time it will not even transition
to climb mode. Those that like to fly 2 county wide circles when
thermalling may see different results.
As Wayne suggested, the postfrontal forum is probably the best place
to go for other user's experience with LK8000 interfacing systems.
Andy
Tuno
May 25th 10, 05:49 PM
Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
so, how?
TRKA
May 26th 10, 11:58 AM
On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
> Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> so, how?
And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On May 25, 8:47*am, Andy > wrote:
> On May 25, 7:59*am, Tuno > wrote:
>
> >I can't *imagine a thermal assistant or bread crumb implimentation that does
> > not use real vario pressure data.)
>
> One of the attactions of an HP 310 with LK8000 was the expectation
> that it would provide a fully portable system that I could use when
> instructing or flying solo XC in club gliders. * In other words, the
> expectation that it would work without needing an intelligent vario
> was significant to me. *However, the internal GPS does not track the
> glider position properly in thermals and it therefore cannot produce a
> circling wind estimate. *Most of the time it will not even transition
> to climb mode. *Those that like to fly 2 county wide circles when
> thermalling may see different results.
>
> As Wayne suggested, the postfrontal forum is probably the best place
> to go for other user's experience with LK8000 interfacing systems.
>
> Andy
Want to point you guys to Vladimir Flux's htttp://glidertools.com
He has an interesting Bluetooth interface and a very interesting
glider that's worth checking out too.
Al
On May 26, 3:58*am, TRKA > wrote:
> On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> > so, how?
>
> And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
> not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know what why don't you buy one and do it yourself!!
Photo's were taken around noon so sun would be at its highest.
You have the 2 devices side by side.
There is not other test to do apart from you go fly with one you just
bought unless of course your Grunau Baby does not have 12V power.
Al
bildan
May 27th 10, 04:00 PM
On May 27, 3:41*am, " >
wrote:
> On May 26, 3:58*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > > Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> > > so, how?
>
> > And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
> > not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> You know what why don't you buy one and do it yourself!!
>
> Photo's were taken around noon so sun would be at its highest.
> You have the 2 devices side by side.
>
> There is not other test to do apart from you go fly with one you just
> bought unless of course your Grunau Baby does not have 12V power.
>
> Al
Al, you have what looks to be an excellent device but keep an eye on
this.
http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/25395/?a=f
TRKA
May 31st 10, 10:46 AM
On 27 Mai, 11:41, " > wrote:
> On May 26, 3:58*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > > Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> > > so, how?
>
> > And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
> > not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> You know what why don't you buy one and do it yourself!!
>
> Photo's were taken around noon so sun would be at its highest.
> You have the 2 devices side by side.
>
> There is not other test to do apart from you go fly with one you just
> bought unless of course your Grunau Baby does not have 12V power.
>
> Al
You are funny guy. I have Ipaq 3850, Ipaq H5550, Ipaq 310 and also
made Photos and comparison. On direct sunlight the 3850 and the 5550
never never are so dark. So what do you try here?
http://www.postfrontal.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3548&SearchTerms=sunlight
Again, put both display in direct sunlight that is the best compare.
The 3850 has the best screen for soaring. Everybody knows that, so
your test and your pictures are very funny.
On May 31, 2:46*am, TRKA > wrote:
> On 27 Mai, 11:41, " > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 3:58*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > > > Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> > > > so, how?
>
> > > And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
> > > not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > You know what why don't you buy one and do it yourself!!
>
> > Photo's were taken around noon so sun would be at its highest.
> > You have the 2 devices side by side.
>
> > There is not other test to do apart from you go fly with one you just
> > bought unless of course your Grunau Baby does not have 12V power.
>
> > Al
>
> You are funny guy. I have Ipaq 3850, Ipaq H5550, Ipaq 310 and also
> made Photos and comparison. On direct sunlight the 3850 and the 5550
> never never are so dark. So what do you try here?
>
> http://www.postfrontal.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3548&SearchTerms=....
>
> Again, put both display in direct sunlight that is the best compare.
> The 3850 has the best screen for soaring. Everybody knows that, so
> your test and your pictures are very funny.
I don't fly my glider on top of my couch in my living room I am a real
pilot...
You put yours outside at mid day and take photos, see what you get.
Your post just shows what a nimrod you truly are.
Now go back to playing with models and flying condor or what ever it
is you do "Modelbobby"
Al
TRKA
June 1st 10, 10:56 AM
On 1 Jun., 09:37, " > wrote:
> On May 31, 2:46*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 27 Mai, 11:41, " > wrote:
>
> > > On May 26, 3:58*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > > On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > > > > Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> > > > > so, how?
>
> > > > And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
> > > > not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > > You know what why don't you buy one and do it yourself!!
>
> > > Photo's were taken around noon so sun would be at its highest.
> > > You have the 2 devices side by side.
>
> > > There is not other test to do apart from you go fly with one you just
> > > bought unless of course your Grunau Baby does not have 12V power.
>
> > > Al
>
> > You are funny guy. I have Ipaq 3850, Ipaq H5550, Ipaq 310 and also
> > made Photos and comparison. On direct sunlight the 3850 and the 5550
> > never never are so dark. So what do you try here?
>
> >http://www.postfrontal.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3548&SearchTerms=...
>
> > Again, put both display in direct sunlight that is the best compare.
> > The 3850 has the best screen for soaring. Everybody knows that, so
> > your test and your pictures are very funny.
>
> I don't fly my glider on top of my couch in my living room I am a real
> pilot...
> You put yours outside at mid day and take photos, see what you get.
>
> Your post just shows what a nimrod you truly are.
>
> Now go back to playing with models and flying condor or what ever it
> is you do "Modelbobby"
>
> Al
Al, i think you shouldnt offend someone in the internet.
This could be very costly for you!
Lets see who is right and wait when you sold a few magic devices to
the soaring community.
cu in condor or in my living room, where i fly my glider.
On Jun 1, 2:56*am, TRKA > wrote:
> On 1 Jun., 09:37, " > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 31, 2:46*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > On 27 Mai, 11:41, " > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 26, 3:58*am, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > > > On 25 Mai, 18:49, Tuno > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Does this device connect to an LX5000/700x, or Cambridge 302, and if
> > > > > > so, how?
>
> > > > > And another fake try! Put them side by side and facing in the sunlight
> > > > > not sunlight from the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > > > You know what why don't you buy one and do it yourself!!
>
> > > > Photo's were taken around noon so sun would be at its highest.
> > > > You have the 2 devices side by side.
>
> > > > There is not other test to do apart from you go fly with one you just
> > > > bought unless of course your Grunau Baby does not have 12V power.
>
> > > > Al
>
> > > You are funny guy. I have Ipaq 3850, Ipaq H5550, Ipaq 310 and also
> > > made Photos and comparison. On direct sunlight the 3850 and the 5550
> > > never never are so dark. So what do you try here?
>
> > >http://www.postfrontal.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3548&SearchTerms=...
>
> > > Again, put both display in direct sunlight that is the best compare.
> > > The 3850 has the best screen for soaring. Everybody knows that, so
> > > your test and your pictures are very funny.
>
> > I don't fly my glider on top of my couch in my living room I am a real
> > pilot...
> > You put yours outside at mid day and take photos, see what you get.
>
> > Your post just shows what a nimrod you truly are.
>
> > Now go back to playing with models and flying condor or what ever it
> > is you do "Modelbobby"
>
> > Al
>
> Al, i think you shouldnt offend someone in the internet.
> This could be very costly for you!
>
> Lets see who is right and wait when you sold a few magic devices to
> the soaring community.
>
> cu in condor or in my living room, where i fly my glider.
You offend me first by basically accusing me of posting doctored
pictures etc. It is you that should be careful.
As you are SUCH and expert... how many flight hours do you have in
REAL gliders using PDA's?
Just so you know I was a Beta tester for Winpilot before any of the
later generation of software even existed.
I have over 1200hrs of real flight time using these devices over the
years, I know what I am talking about here.
When you post your pictures of your IPAQ's outside in the direct sun
then you can come back and start bitching at me until then I have
nothing to say to you.
Oh and units have been sold and our first dealer is about to be
announced.
I think that about finishes this thread Karim.
Al
vBulletin® v3.6.4, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.