Fewer Noise Complaints Spurs Calls for More

[Orval Fairbairn[_2_]]

Fewer Noise Complaints Spurs Drive for More Complaints

May 20, 2010 ‹ A neighborhood association in Greenwich, Connecticut, is
imploring its members to keep making noise complaints about Westchester
County Airport, which borders the community in the northern suburbs of
New York City. John Lucarelli of the Round Hill Association,
representing 1,100 homes within five miles of the airport, told
Greenwich Time that noise complaints are down by over 600 from March the
previous year. In April the noise complaints decreased by almost 800.
Lucarelli says that low-flying aircraft and the pilots ignoring the
voluntary overnight curfew continue to be a problem. ³We definitely need
to keep making calls,² Lucarelli said this week during the group¹s
annual*meeting.
Westchester County Airport (HPN) has an active mix of airline,
corporate, rotorcraft, and private aircraft including several flight
schools. 44 percent of the complaints in March involved helicopters and
transient corporate aircraft. John Inserra, HPN¹s noise abatement
officer, says his office dutifully records each complaint and often
shares them with operators when the aircraft causing the noise can be
identified. Chronic complainers, however, tend to skew the statistics.
For example, a single household in Valhalla, New York, accounted for 363
of the 471 complaints in April and 275 of the 300 complaints in March
this year, according to*Inserra. The previous year the same household
accounted for similar a number of calls.
Lucarelli, said the neighborhood association doesn¹t want to be
adversarial and wants to work with the airport to deal with the*issue.
³We are starting to usher in a new era of public and private partnership
with the community and the airport,² he said.

It sounds as if the few chronic complainers are running out of
credibility!

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[Brian Whatcott]

The military pilot training town of Altus has a base with two principal
runways east of town running north south, and perhaps five miles west,
the civil airport has a north south runway.
Lately, the patterns at the base have been restructured to west about
on the west runway, east on the east runway, to facilitate simultaneous
operations.
Close by, the civil patterns have been rearranged to westerly for any
wind (instead of the formerly left hand patterns). The Base's west
patterns on the west runway carry C-17 transports over the town.
The C-17 has the unusual operating procedure of flying on the back of
the power curve on approach/landings.
This leads to night wake-ups when a C-17 near gross makes an approach.
Ho-hum....

Brian W

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> Fewer Noise Complaints Spurs Drive for More Complaints
>
> May 20, 2010 ‹ A neighborhood association in Greenwich, Connecticut, is
> imploring its members to keep making noise complaints about Westchester
> County Airport, which borders the community in the northern suburbs of
> New York City. John Lucarelli of the Round Hill Association,
> representing 1,100 homes within five miles of the airport, told
> Greenwich Time that noise complaints are down by over 600 from March the
> previous year. In April the noise complaints decreased by almost 800.
> Lucarelli says that low-flying aircraft and the pilots ignoring the
> voluntary overnight curfew continue to be a problem. ³We definitely need
> to keep making calls,² Lucarelli said this week during the group¹s
> annual meeting.
> Westchester County Airport (HPN) has an active mix of airline,
> corporate, rotorcraft, and private aircraft including several flight
> schools. 44 percent of the complaints in March involved helicopters and
> transient corporate aircraft. John Inserra, HPN¹s noise abatement
> officer, says his office dutifully records each complaint and often
> shares them with operators when the aircraft causing the noise can be
> identified. Chronic complainers, however, tend to skew the statistics.
> For example, a single household in Valhalla, New York, accounted for 363
> of the 471 complaints in April and 275 of the 300 complaints in March
> this year, according to Inserra. The previous year the same household
> accounted for similar a number of calls.
> Lucarelli, said the neighborhood association doesn¹t want to be
> adversarial and wants to work with the airport to deal with the issue.
> ³We are starting to usher in a new era of public and private partnership
> with the community and the airport,² he said.
>
> It sounds as if the few chronic complainers are running out of
> credibility!
>

[Bob Moore]

brian whatcott wrote
> This leads to night wake-ups when a C-17 near gross makes an
> approach.

Brian...would you define just what you meant by the phrase
"near gross". Perhaps you meant "near maximum landing weight".
"Gross Weight" is simply the total weight of the aircraft including
its contents and fuel at as opposed to its "Empty Weight".

Bob Moore

[Brian Whatcott]

Bob Moore wrote:
> brian whatcott wrote
>> This leads to night wake-ups when a C-17 near gross makes an
>> approach.
>
> Brian...would you define just what you meant by the phrase
> "near gross". Perhaps you meant "near maximum landing weight".
> "Gross Weight" is simply the total weight of the aircraft including
> its contents and fuel at as opposed to its "Empty Weight".
>
> Bob Moore

"Max Gross Takeoff Weight" is a term often seen in FAA materials. I
expect you are familiar with the difference between max TO gross and max
landing, so I won't labor the point, other than to remind you that
flying behind the power curve makes more noise when the aircraft is near
gross - MAX gross, of course.

Regards

Brian W

[birdog[_2_]]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> Fewer Noise Complaints Spurs Drive for More Complaints
>
> May 20, 2010 < A neighborhood association in Greenwich, Connecticut, is
> imploring its members to keep making noise complaints about Westchester
> County Airport, which borders the community in the northern suburbs of
> New York City. John Lucarelli of the Round Hill Association,
> representing 1,100 homes within five miles of the airport, told
> Greenwich Time that noise complaints are down by over 600 from March the
> previous year. In April the noise complaints decreased by almost 800.
> Lucarelli says that low-flying aircraft and the pilots ignoring the
> voluntary overnight curfew continue to be a problem. ³We definitely need
> to keep making calls,² Lucarelli said this week during the group¹s
> annual meeting.
> Westchester County Airport (HPN) has an active mix of airline,
> corporate, rotorcraft, and private aircraft including several flight
> schools. 44 percent of the complaints in March involved helicopters and
> transient corporate aircraft. John Inserra, HPN¹s noise abatement
> officer, says his office dutifully records each complaint and often
> shares them with operators when the aircraft causing the noise can be
> identified. Chronic complainers, however, tend to skew the statistics.
> For example, a single household in Valhalla, New York, accounted for 363
> of the 471 complaints in April and 275 of the 300 complaints in March
> this year, according to Inserra. The previous year the same household
> accounted for similar a number of calls.
> Lucarelli, said the neighborhood association doesn¹t want to be
> adversarial and wants to work with the airport to deal with the issue.
> ³We are starting to usher in a new era of public and private partnership
> with the community and the airport,² he said.
>
> It sounds as if the few chronic complainers are running out of
> credibility!
>
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> Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

Just curious. Which was there first? Homes or airport?

[Orval Fairbairn[_2_]]

In article >,
"birdog" > wrote:

> "Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Fewer Noise Complaints Spurs Drive for More Complaints
> >
> > May 20, 2010 < A neighborhood association in Greenwich, Connecticut, is
> > imploring its members to keep making noise complaints about Westchester
> > County Airport, which borders the community in the northern suburbs of
> > New York City. John Lucarelli of the Round Hill Association,
> > representing 1,100 homes within five miles of the airport, told
> > Greenwich Time that noise complaints are down by over 600 from March the
> > previous year. In April the noise complaints decreased by almost 800.
> > Lucarelli says that low-flying aircraft and the pilots ignoring the
> > voluntary overnight curfew continue to be a problem. ³We definitely need
> > to keep making calls,² Lucarelli said this week during the group¹s
> > annual meeting.
> > Westchester County Airport (HPN) has an active mix of airline,
> > corporate, rotorcraft, and private aircraft including several flight
> > schools. 44 percent of the complaints in March involved helicopters and
> > transient corporate aircraft. John Inserra, HPN¹s noise abatement
> > officer, says his office dutifully records each complaint and often
> > shares them with operators when the aircraft causing the noise can be
> > identified. Chronic complainers, however, tend to skew the statistics.
> > For example, a single household in Valhalla, New York, accounted for 363
> > of the 471 complaints in April and 275 of the 300 complaints in March
> > this year, according to Inserra. The previous year the same household
> > accounted for similar a number of calls.
> > Lucarelli, said the neighborhood association doesn¹t want to be
> > adversarial and wants to work with the airport to deal with the issue.
> > ³We are starting to usher in a new era of public and private partnership
> > with the community and the airport,² he said.
> >
> > It sounds as if the few chronic complainers are running out of
> > credibility!
> >
> > --
> > Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.
>
> Just curious. Which was there first? Homes or airport?

What do you think?

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[nicoledc109]

;729802']Fewer Noise Complaints Spurs Drive for More Complaints

May 20, 2010 ‹ A neighborhood association in Greenwich, Connecticut, is
imploring its members to keep making noise complaints about Westchester
County Airport, which borders the community in the northern suburbs of
New York City. John Lucarelli of the Round Hill Association,
representing 1,100 homes within five miles of the airport, told
Greenwich Time that noise complaints are down by over 600 from March the
previous year. In April the noise complaints decreased by almost 800.
Lucarelli says that low-flying aircraft and the pilots ignoring the
voluntary overnight curfew continue to be a problem. ³We definitely need
to keep making calls,² Lucarelli said this week during the group¹s
annual*meeting.
Westchester County Airport (HPN) has an active mix of airline,
corporate, rotorcraft, and private aircraft including several flight
schools. 44 percent of the complaints in March involved helicopters and
transient corporate aircraft. John Inserra, HPN¹s noise abatement
officer, says his office dutifully records each complaint and often
shares them with operators when the aircraft causing the noise can be
identified. Chronic complainers, however, tend to skew the statistics.
For example, a single household in Valhalla, New York, accounted for 363
of the 471 complaints in April and 275 of the 300 complaints in March
this year, according to*Inserra. The previous year the same household
accounted for similar a number of calls.
Lucarelli, said the neighborhood association doesn¹t want to be
adversarial and wants to work with the airport to deal with the*issue.
³We are starting to usher in a new era of public and private partnership
with the community and the airport,² he said.

It sounds as if the few chronic complainers are running out of
credibility!

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Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

Thanks for sharing.