Barbed Wire?

[Gary Boggs]

Our local port authority just installed a barbed wire fence along the
road at the east end of our airport. The fence is approximately 300ft
from the end of the runway. I can understand them putting up a chain
link fence, but a barbed wire fence is an extreme hazard and should be
illegal. Does anybody know if there are any laws against such a
hazard?

Boggs

[Renny[_2_]]

On Jun 16, 7:51*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Our local port authority just installed a barbed wire fence along the
> road at the east end of our airport. *The fence is approximately 300ft
> from the end of the runway. *I can understand them putting up a chain
> link fence, but a barbed wire fence is an extreme hazard and should be
> illegal. *Does anybody know if there are any laws against such a
> hazard?
>
> Boggs

Unfortunately, I doubt that it is illegal as many airports have barbed
wire fences. At Moriarty we've had barbed wire surrounding the airport
for many years. Barbed wire definitely does encourage accurate
landings and if you have a problem on T/O and if there is a question
on stopping before the fence, it does encourage landing on the "other"
side of the fence.

That being said, you may want to go to your airport manager and
airport advisory committee (if there is one) to see if you can get
this changed. If they are resistant and if you feel strongly about
this, you may want to consider offering to pay for this section of
fence to be changed over to some other material...Good luck!
Thx - Renny

[Tony[_5_]]

On Jun 16, 8:51*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Our local port authority just installed a barbed wire fence along the
> road at the east end of our airport. *The fence is approximately 300ft
> from the end of the runway. *I can understand them putting up a chain
> link fence, but a barbed wire fence is an extreme hazard and should be
> illegal. *Does anybody know if there are any laws against such a
> hazard?
>
> Boggs

ive heard the prison compound look is very effective at keeping the
student pilots out.

[mattm[_2_]]

On Jun 16, 10:21*am, Tony > wrote:
> On Jun 16, 8:51*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
>
> > Our local port authority just installed a barbed wire fence along the
> > road at the east end of our airport. *The fence is approximately 300ft
> > from the end of the runway. *I can understand them putting up a chain
> > link fence, but a barbed wire fence is an extreme hazard and should be
> > illegal. *Does anybody know if there are any laws against such a
> > hazard?
>
> > Boggs
>
> ive heard the prison compound look is very effective at keeping the
> student pilots out.

Our airport looks like this nowadays. I have to say, all the new club
members
that join these days are already glider pilots!

-- Matt

[Gary Boggs]

Barbed wire is for cattle and is not appropriate across the end of an
active runway.

Please take a minute to write an email to join me in protesting this
dangerous action by the port of Hood River.



Mike McElwee, port of Hood River:





Michael Harris, FAA:





Thank you.

Boggs

[CindyB[_2_]]

On Jun 16, 7:39*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Barbed wire is for cattle and is not appropriate across the end of an
> active runway.
>
> Please take a minute to write an email to join me in protesting this
> dangerous action by the port of Hood River.
>

> Thank you.
>
> Boggs

Gary:

Due to my own computer crash earlier this spring, I lost many
addresses compiled.
So I respond through the forum, as others may benefit also.

Consider checking with your municipal authority for general fencing
requirements. Many local codes have very specific materials lists for
what type
of fencing and heights can be used for various zoning designations of
property.

Typically, barbed wire can only be used for low-density agricultural
zoning.
Industrial or light commercial zoning will commonly specify chain
link,
post and woven wire, wood slats or brick. They may allow chain link
with
'security capping' barbed wire on tip-out (anti climb over) arms.

Research FIRST what is locally approved, as it is most satisfying to
beat up
a bureaucrat with their own book...... if it suits you. It would not
be in your
interest to complain and discover that they remove a four or five foot
barbed
wire fence to install 6 ft chain link with barbed tip outs.

It is not expensive to offer to replace barbed with smooth wire, which
is more
commonly used for horse fence nowadays.

If you want a local example, you can tell them that Cal City removed
the
west barbed lines at 4 and 5 foot height, and left the remaining 3
foot tall
woven 4" x 4" square wire in the overruns at Cal City years ago.

You can skip mentioning that TSA paid to replace the 5-ft. south half
of the
airport with 6-foot chain link subsequently. To keep the terrorists
out of
the south side. If you can find the overrun, you can step over our
wind drifted woven wire with no crotch risk.

Best wishes,

Cindy
www.caracole-soaring.com