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This one did not break my airplane, but. . .

Landing in a cross wind at an uncontrolled airport -- it might have
been Urbana IL, not sure. Anyhow, there was a large barn not too far
from the centerline on the upwind side of the runway. I pretty much
had most of the rudder in, maybe 5 feet agl, when I got immediately
downwind of the barn. The barn might have even caused a touch of tail
wind -- the airplane ran out of lift right now, and dropped in. I
would have been surprised to see the wheel shafts poking thru the
upper wing surface, but hey, it's a Mooney and they are strong. (I did
not check to see if the dihedral increased.)

The lesson is, if there's any structure upwind and close to the
runway, either fly it on or land long -- otherwise you may be making a
much firmer landing than you intended.

Your turn.

[VOR-DME[_3_]]

With under 200h in my logbook, I heard a departure clearance just before
mine, but didn’t pay too much attention as it sounded like a helicopter,
and they were generally pretty far away from us at that airport. On
liftoff I got "Skylane Seven Niner Five report visual the AS three five
zero above you at your one o’clock". I looked up, and seeing the
Eurocopter I dutifully replied "Visual the Squirrel" when in no time at
all, still looking up, I was looking at the ground! Due to a really
unhappy wake turbulence incident with a helicopter I had, in zero
seconds flat become almost fully inverted at "maybe" 100AGL! I did the
wrong thing, which turned out to be right in upside-down world, I pulled
sharply, which made me climb rapidly toward the already close ground,
but gave me aileron authority to flip it right and nurse it back into
the sky. At least that’s my best guess as to how I got it righted and
flew away from that one. The fairly decent climb performance of the very
lightly-loaded 182, still in fine pitch probably didn’t hurt. Radio
silence - nobody said a thing.
Lesson learned - mainly don’t come anywhere near those buggers! But also
don’t necessarily count on ATC to manage wake turbulence spacing in a
case like this.




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says...
>
>
>This one did not break my airplane, but. . .
>
>Landing in a cross wind at an uncontrolled airport -- it might have
>been Urbana IL, not sure. Anyhow, there was a large barn not too far
>from the centerline on the upwind side of the runway. I pretty much
>had most of the rudder in, maybe 5 feet agl, when I got immediately
>downwind of the barn. The barn might have even caused a touch of tail
>wind -- the airplane ran out of lift right now, and dropped in. I
>would have been surprised to see the wheel shafts poking thru the
>upper wing surface, but hey, it's a Mooney and they are strong. (I did
>not check to see if the dihedral increased.)
>
>The lesson is, if there's any structure upwind and close to the
>runway, either fly it on or land long -- otherwise you may be making a
>much firmer landing than you intended.
>
>Your turn.
>

[betwys1]

Simulation?

Brian W

On 7/5/2010 2:54 PM, VOR-DME wrote:
> With under 200h in my logbook, I heard a departure clearance just before
> mine, but didn’t pay too much attention as it sounded like a helicopter,
> and they were generally pretty far away from us at that airport. On
> liftoff I got "Skylane Seven Niner Five report visual the AS three five
> zero above you at your one o’clock". I looked up, and seeing the
> Eurocopter I dutifully replied "Visual the Squirrel" when in no time at
> all, still looking up, I was looking at the ground! Due to a really
> unhappy wake turbulence incident with a helicopter I had, in zero
> seconds flat become almost fully inverted at "maybe" 100AGL! I did the
> wrong thing, which turned out to be right in upside-down world, I pulled
> sharply, which made me climb rapidly toward the already close ground,
> but gave me aileron authority to flip it right and nurse it back into
> the sky. At least that’s my best guess as to how I got it righted and
> flew away from that one. The fairly decent climb performance of the very
> lightly-loaded 182, still in fine pitch probably didn’t hurt. Radio
> silence - nobody said a thing.
> Lesson learned - mainly don’t come anywhere near those buggers! But also
> don’t necessarily count on ATC to manage wake turbulence spacing in a
> case like this.
>
>
>
>
> In article
> >,
> says...
>>
>>
>> This one did not break my airplane, but. . .
>>
>> Landing in a cross wind at an uncontrolled airport -- it might have
>> been Urbana IL, not sure. Anyhow, there was a large barn not too far
>>from the centerline on the upwind side of the runway. I pretty much
>> had most of the rudder in, maybe 5 feet agl, when I got immediately
>> downwind of the barn. The barn might have even caused a touch of tail
>> wind -- the airplane ran out of lift right now, and dropped in. I
>> would have been surprised to see the wheel shafts poking thru the
>> upper wing surface, but hey, it's a Mooney and they are strong. (I did
>> not check to see if the dihedral increased.)
>>
>> The lesson is, if there's any structure upwind and close to the
>> runway, either fly it on or land long -- otherwise you may be making a
>> much firmer landing than you intended.
>>
>> Your turn.
>>
>

[VOR-DME[_3_]]

In article >,
says...
>
>
>Simulation?

Wrong guy.