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[John Szalay[_2_]]

Boeing 707 Circa: 1958
Amazing how times have changed, the smoke, the noise

[Waldo.Pepper[_2_]]

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[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:22 -0500, John Szalay <john.szalayATatt.net>
wrote:

>Boeing 707 Circa: 1958
>Amazing how times have changed, the smoke, the noise

Boeing 707: When man thought water would burn.

[Dave D]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:22 -0500, John Szalay <john.szalayATatt.net>
> wrote:
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>>Boeing 707 Circa: 1958
>>Amazing how times have changed, the smoke, the noise
>
> Boeing 707: When man thought water would burn.

It wasn't thought that water would burn, per se, rather that the H2O would
boost the thrust, which it did and does.

DaveD

[coffelt2]

"Dave D" > wrote in message
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> "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:22 -0500, John Szalay <john.szalayATatt.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Boeing 707 Circa: 1958
>>>Amazing how times have changed, the smoke, the noise
>>
>> Boeing 707: When man thought water would burn.
>
> It wasn't thought that water would burn, per se, rather that the H2O would
> boost the thrust, which it did and does.
>
> DaveD

Mid 1950's we used "deionized water" (whatever that is) in warmer climes and
"water-alcohol" in colder climes (freezing on the ground wasn't real cool)
Attached "Youtube" clip, (not mine) which many have already watched,
is a B-47E takeoff run with "water-alcohol" or "deionized water", as well as
33, 1000lb thrust "JATO" bottles burning on the jettisonable "horsecollar"
rack. Even with all that, a heavy weight B-47 would have to be launched
after runway temperatures dropped below triple digits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4mrxUtjxQ

Old Chief Lynn

[Dave D]

"coffelt2" > wrote in message
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> "Dave D" > wrote in message
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>> "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:22 -0500, John Szalay <john.szalayATatt.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Boeing 707 Circa: 1958
>>>>Amazing how times have changed, the smoke, the noise
>>>
>>> Boeing 707: When man thought water would burn.
>>
>> It wasn't thought that water would burn, per se, rather that the H2O
>> would boost the thrust, which it did and does.
>>
>> DaveD
>
> Mid 1950's we used "deionized water" (whatever that is) in warmer climes
> and "water-alcohol" in colder climes (freezing on the ground wasn't real
> cool)
> Attached "Youtube" clip, (not mine) which many have already watched,
> is a B-47E takeoff run with "water-alcohol" or "deionized water", as well
> as 33, 1000lb thrust "JATO" bottles burning on the jettisonable
> "horsecollar" rack. Even with all that, a heavy weight B-47 would have to
> be launched after runway temperatures dropped below triple digits
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4mrxUtjxQ
>
> Old Chief Lynn
I remember that well. Our RC135Ds used water injection down to about 25F. At
that temp the air was dense enough to give us the required thrust to get
those hogs airborne prior to runway runout. This was on a runway of 14500'
with 500' overruns at elevation of about 550'. Was interesting at times.
DaveD
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