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Brian Whatcott
August 14th 10, 09:42 PM
Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
the green. And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!

Brian W

Flaps_50!
August 14th 10, 11:09 PM
On Aug 15, 8:42*am, brian whatcott > wrote:
> Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
> overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
> downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
> what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
> And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
> hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
> the green. * *And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
> the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!
>

No grass for 20 years? No wonder you are cranky ;-)

Cheers

Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
August 15th 10, 01:35 AM
In article >,
brian whatcott > wrote:

> Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
> overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
> downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
> what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
> And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
> hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
> the green. And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
> the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!
>
> Brian W

Just remember what the hippies always used to say, "There's nothing like
good grass." ;>)

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Brian Whatcott
August 15th 10, 01:44 AM
On 8/14/2010 7:35 PM, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In >,
> brian > wrote:
>
>> Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
>> overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
>> downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
>> what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
>> And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
>> hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
>> the green. And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
>> the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!
>>
>> Brian W
>
> Just remember what the hippies always used to say, "There's nothing like
> good grass." ;>)
>

Two great minds with a single thought! :-)

B

a[_3_]
August 16th 10, 11:10 AM
On Aug 14, 4:42*pm, brian whatcott > wrote:
> Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
> overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
> downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
> what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
> And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
> hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
> the green. * *And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
> the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!
>
> Brian W

It's worth reminding renters that some rental agreements prohibit
landing on other than paved surfaces, or require a special checkout.
Be sure to read the fine print!

Gemini
August 16th 10, 05:04 PM
On 2010-08-14, brian whatcott > wrote:
>
> Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
> overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
> downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
> what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
> And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
> hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
> the green. And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
> the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!
>
> Brian W

Excellent! I actually only know grass. In my 15 hrs of training thus
far, I've only landed on asphalt 3x (3 T&G's in one lesson a
couple of weeks ago). Other than that, I only know soft short field
with obstructions...I rekcon that will make other airports seem
like a breeze, though.

Scott

a[_3_]
August 16th 10, 08:52 PM
On Aug 16, 12:04*pm, Gemini > wrote:
> On 2010-08-14, brian whatcott > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Doing a couple of patterns this morning, before the heat was
> > overwhelming, I heard another plane - a C140? in the pattern calling
> > downwind for a 17 grass landing. This was a first, so I looked at
> > what was going on: to the right of the hard runway, was fresh mown grass.
> > And a taildragger, making a pretty landing. So I asked how it was, and
> > hearing the grass was smooth, decided I should renew acquaintance with
> > the green. * *And remembered for the first time in twenty years,
> > the rumble of wheels on grass. Sweet!
>
> > Brian W
>
> Excellent! I actually only know grass. In my 15 hrs of training thus
> far, I've only landed on asphalt 3x (3 T&G's *in one lesson a
> couple of weeks ago). Other than that, I only know soft short field
> with obstructions...I rekcon that will make other airports seem
> like a breeze, though.
>
> Scott

You'll hear this many times, Scott. When you're operating from long
paved runways, short field with obstruction landing techniques are
fine so long as you plan your touch down point with respect to the
turn off you plan to use, and not the numbers. Landing on the numbers
and driving the airplane 2000 feet to the turn off will make you very
unpopular with people on close final.

Just had another safety related thought. People who are number one and
ready to go at uncontrolled airports look (or are supposed to be
trained to look) for traffic on final, and many will not look for
someone who might be pretty high -- be sure to be in the expected
'slot' where people might be looking, and for that matter, having your
landing light on is a way of calling additional attention to
yourself.

Expect other pilots to be inattentive and to do something stupid, and
once or twice a year you will not be disappointed. Every three or four
years you'll probably see someone doing turns around a tiedown because
they forgot to untie a wing! Turns around a tie down is NOT a student
maneuver, nor is taxi over a chock block.

Now go commit aviation!

Dave Doe
August 20th 10, 02:43 AM
In article >, says...
>
> a > wrote in news:9c5f9f15-03fa-4420-afd2-86f71578b353
> @s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > once or twice a year you will not be disappointed. Every three or four
> > years you'll probably see someone doing turns around a tiedown because
> > they forgot to untie a wing! Turns around a tie down is NOT a student
> > maneuver, nor is taxi over a chock block.
>
>
> Taxiing out for departure at Molokai. The tower calls me up and says
> that it appears I have a "seat belt or something" hanging from the
> passenger door.
>
> I stopped where I was, shut down and got out to look. It was ? of the
> chock set that the wife had somehow kicked out the door while getting in
> and didn't notice.
>
> Glad that tower was keeping an eye on things. That could done some
> pretty bad body panel damage.

You'd have noticed, I'd say, shortly after T/O. A lot of loud banging
no doubt. Prolly declare a mayday, make a short circuit. Drop the wife
off upon landing, maybe the marriage too. :)

--
Duncan.

Gemini
August 23rd 10, 07:26 PM
On 2010-08-16, a > wrote:
> On Aug 16, 12:04*pm, Gemini > wrote:
>> On 2010-08-14, brian whatcott > wrote:
<snip>
>> Excellent! I actually only know grass. In my 15 hrs of training thus
>> far, I've only landed on asphalt 3x (3 T&G's *in one lesson a
>> couple of weeks ago). Other than that, I only know soft short field
>> with obstructions...I rekcon that will make other airports seem
>> like a breeze, though.
>>
>> Scott
>
> You'll hear this many times, Scott. When you're operating from long
> paved runways, short field with obstruction landing techniques are
> fine so long as you plan your touch down point with respect to the
> turn off you plan to use, and not the numbers. Landing on the numbers
> and driving the airplane 2000 feet to the turn off will make you very
> unpopular with people on close final.

I actually have, already! :D Something that's firmly stuck in my
head now. ;)

> Just had another safety related thought. People who are number one and
> ready to go at uncontrolled airports look (or are supposed to be
> trained to look) for traffic on final, and many will not look for
> someone who might be pretty high -- be sure to be in the expected
> 'slot' where people might be looking, and for that matter, having your
> landing light on is a way of calling additional attention to
> yourself.

We are trained for that. Fortunately, I watched another plane coming
in for a landing, so, that gave me a great visual reference to know
where to look. I've read a lot about flying the pattern properly b/c
that's what everyone is taught and that's what everyone else will
be expecting - so here's hoping everyone follows the rules...

Strangely, my instructor has never taught me to turn on landing lights
of any sort. There's no moention of lights (except the beacon) in any
of the checklists or instruction. I've been tempted to ask him about
it.

> Expect other pilots to be inattentive and to do something stupid, and
> once or twice a year you will not be disappointed. Every three or four
> years you'll probably see someone doing turns around a tiedown because
> they forgot to untie a wing! Turns around a tie down is NOT a student
> maneuver, nor is taxi over a chock block.
>
> Now go commit aviation!

Wouldn't the tied down wing be noticed during the preflight?

Trying to commit aviation - the weather, however, has different ideas...

Regards,
Scott

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