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August 16th 10, 11:52 PM
Bi-Ennual Flight Review (BFR) with ATC COMS - Video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRO3BoBPRA

I was rather ambitious on what I wanted to review during this flight
of one being how to operate the King GPS for approaches.
Interestingly enough, that was the only thing I could not do since the
GPS was in-op in the plane.. So we did some air work in the practice
area and did one ILS approach.

Video includes outside the front, wing view, instrument view and
approach plate depiction on the instrument approach.

One hour flight time doesn't give much time to do everything I would
have like to have done (I am missing that privilege of ownership as
time was never a factor before) but do others do anything different
that maybe I should have done? Anything to improve what I did this
year?

CFI was great having me think about things out loud, giving tips plus
demo'd a hands off steep turn where we did two complete circles
without losing altitude. This was the CFI's first time ever doing a
BFR.

I'm probably one of a few that can honestly say they are current on
their "engine outs" landings so I didn't feel the need to work on
that.

COMMENTS MOST APPRECIATED from CFI's and pilots on this BFR here or on
the video.

Flaps_50!
August 18th 10, 02:25 PM
On Aug 17, 10:52*am, " > wrote:
> Bi-Ennual Flight Review (BFR) with ATC COMS - Video.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRO3BoBPRA
>
> I was rather ambitious on what I wanted to review during this flight
> of one being how to operate the King GPS for approaches.
> Interestingly enough, that was the only thing I could not do since the
> GPS was in-op in the plane.. *So we did some air work in the practice
> area and did one ILS approach.
>
> Video includes outside the front, wing view, instrument view and
> approach plate depiction on the instrument approach.
>
> One hour flight time doesn't give much time to do everything I would
> have like to have done (I am missing that privilege of ownership as
> time was never a factor before) but do others do anything different
> that maybe I should have done? *Anything to improve what I did this
> year?
>
> CFI was great having me think about things out loud, giving tips plus
> demo'd a hands off steep turn where we did two complete circles
> without losing altitude. *This was the CFI's first time ever doing a
> BFR.
>
> I'm probably one of a few that can honestly say they are current on
> their "engine outs" landings so I didn't feel the need to work on
> that.
>
> COMMENTS MOST APPRECIATED from CFI's and pilots on this BFR here or on
> the video.

Just a note, you might correct the spelling -its Biennial or biannual.
Also during slow flight I suggest you need more right rudder to keep
in balance. During the stall warning you seemed to be 500'/min down
was that intended to be slow flight or a stall? During my last
biannual I had to demonstrate turns with the stall warning sounding
and no loss of height. Being far on the backside of the power curve I
needed a lot of rudder. Without R rudder the 172 loves to drop a wing
during power on stalls and you need to catch it promptly with rudder.

id you add power during the steep turn?

d to correct the

Brian Whatcott
August 18th 10, 05:41 PM
On 8/18/2010 8:25 AM, Flaps_50! wrote:

> Just a note, you might correct the spelling -its Biennial or biannual.....

Biannual = twice a year
biennial = once in two years

Brian W

August 18th 10, 06:46 PM
On Aug 18, 11:41*am, brian whatcott > wrote:
> On 8/18/2010 8:25 AM, Flaps_50! wrote:
>
> > Just a note, you might correct the spelling -its Biennial or biannual......
>
> Biannual = twice a year
> biennial = once in two years
>
> Brian W

Thanks Brian, I corrected the video title :-)

I knew it wasn't biannual as I learned two years ago when I posted my
flight review experiences in I think it was the student group back.

August 18th 10, 06:49 PM
On Aug 18, 12:46*pm, " > wrote:

> I knew it wasn't biannual as I learned two years ago when I posted my
> flight review experiences in I think it was the student group back.

Bad form to reply to my own, but flaps50 reply didn't make it to
Google groups so not sure what he posted...

lucky lindy
August 31st 10, 01:58 AM
"brian whatcott" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/18/2010 8:25 AM, Flaps_50! wrote:
>
>> Just a note, you might correct the spelling -its Biennial or
>> biannual.....
>
> Biannual = twice a year
> biennial = once in two years
>
> Brian W

-Usage note
All words except biennial referring to periods of time and prefixed by bi- 1
are potentially ambiguous. Since bi- can be taken to mean either "twice
each" or "every two," a word like biweekly can be understood as "twice each
week" or "every two weeks." To avoid confusion, it is better to use the
prefix semi- to mean "twice each" ( semiannual; semimonthly; semiweekly ) or
the phrase twice a or twice each ( twice a month; twice a week; twice each
year ), and for the other sense to use the phrase every two ( every two
months; every two weeks; every two years ).

Brian Whatcott
September 3rd 10, 01:42 AM
On 8/30/2010 7:58 PM, lucky lindy wrote:
> "brian > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/18/2010 8:25 AM, Flaps_50! wrote:
>>
>>> Just a note, you might correct the spelling -its Biennial or
>>> biannual.....
>>
>> Biannual = twice a year
>> biennial = once in two years
>>
>> Brian W
>
> -Usage note
> All words except biennial referring to periods of time and prefixed by bi- 1
> are potentially ambiguous. Since bi- can be taken to mean either "twice
> each" or "every two," a word like biweekly can be understood as "twice each
> week" or "every two weeks." To avoid confusion, it is better to use the
> prefix semi- to mean "twice each" ( semiannual; semimonthly; semiweekly ) or
> the phrase twice a or twice each ( twice a month; twice a week; twice each
> year ), and for the other sense to use the phrase every two ( every two
> months; every two weeks; every two years ).
>
>
It's interesting that the COD can distinguish biennial from biannual,
but havers at "bimonthly" where it explains:
(periodical) produced or occurring every two months or twice a month...
....which illustrates the reason I am in sympathy with your usage note,
no doubt.

Brian W

Bob Moore
September 3rd 10, 02:20 PM
brian whatcott wrote
> It's interesting that the COD can distinguish biennial from biannual,

It dosen't matter....biennial or biannual, they and the abreviation BFR
are all incorrect. The FAA makes a big difference between "every two
years" and "since the beginning of the 24th calendar month......".
The FAA has not used "BFR" since about 1995 as I recall.

FAR Section 61.56
61.56 Flight Review......
(c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e) and (g)
of this section, no person may act as pilot in command
of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of
the 24th calendar month before the month in
which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that
person has—
(1) Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft
for which that pilot is rated by an authorized
instructor; and
(2) A logbook endorsed from an authorized
instructor who gave the review certifying that
the person has satisfactorily completed the
review.

Bob Moore
Holder of an FAA Flight Instructor certificate
NOT a CFI :)

a[_3_]
September 3rd 10, 02:58 PM
On Sep 3, 9:20*am, Bob Moore > wrote:
> brian whatcott wrote
>
> > It's interesting that the COD can distinguish biennial from biannual,
>
> It dosen't matter....biennial or biannual, they and the abreviation BFR
> are all incorrect. The FAA makes a big difference between "every two
> years" and "since the beginning of the 24th calendar month......".
> The FAA has not used "BFR" since about 1995 as I recall.
>
> FAR Section 61.56
> 61.56 Flight Review......
> (c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e) and (g)
> of this section, no person may act as pilot in command
> of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of
> the 24th calendar month before the month in
> which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that
> person has—
> (1) Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft
> for which that pilot is rated by an authorized
> instructor; and
> (2) A logbook endorsed from an authorized
> instructor who gave the review certifying that
> the person has satisfactorily completed the
> review.
>
> Bob Moore
> Holder of an FAA Flight Instructor certificate
> NOT a CFI *:)

So if one is careful to have their review early in August of 2008 they
may act as PIC until the end of Aug 2010, get their review early in
Sept 2010, be PIC until. . . etc.

Better than saying "Hey, have an instructor make sure you know what
you're doing every couple of years. . .".

The 'annuals' on my airplane sometime happen at 13 month intervals
too. Legalese is some people's first language.

In some states that require an annual automobile inspection if you
present the car to an inspection station in June, a month after the
prior inspection expired, the new sticker will expire in May the next
year. No 'calendar creep' is permitted.

Bob Moore
September 3rd 10, 03:13 PM
a > wrote
> So if one is careful to have their review early in August of 2008 they
> may act as PIC until the end of Aug 2010, get their review early in
> Sept 2010, be PIC until. . . etc.

YEP!

Bob

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