FENAB

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Could someone please tell me the definition of a FENAB? Thanks, I¹ve had a
devil of a time trying to find it so this is my last resort.

[Doug \Woody\ and Erin Beal]

Your acronym is incorrect. It¹s spelled FNAEB‹Fleet Naval Aviator
Evaluation Board. It¹s only pronounced ³fenab.² It¹s what they do to
aviators who break a jet or do bad things in the airplane.

--Woody

On 11/28/04 7:37 PM, in article ,
" > wrote:

> Could someone please tell me the definition of a FENAB? Thanks, I¹ve had a
> devil of a time trying to find it so this is my last resort.

[Jim Carriere]

wrote:
> Could someone please tell me the definition of a FENAB? Thanks, I’ve had
> a devil of a time trying to find it so this is my last resort.

Why, do you have one coming up? :)

Basically, it's a board that is convened if you do something so bad
in an aircraft (a mishap may or may not be involved) that you might
lose your wings. Sometimes referred to as "the long green table."
(Although that phrase can refer to a lot of other things).

Also, you misspelled it, it's FNAEB (even though everybody pronounces
it "fenab"), short for Field Naval Aviator Evaluation Board.

For more information than you wanted to know, try a google search
(web and groups). I found the governing instruction on this webpage:

http://www.combatindex.com/mil_docs/opnav_5400.html (skip down to
5400.109) This may be a bit tedious, like learning the English
language by reading a dictionary.

Hope this helps some.

[Doug \Woody\ and Erin Beal]

On 11/28/04 8:23 PM, in article , "Jim
Carriere" > wrote:

> wrote:
>> Could someone please tell me the definition of a FENAB? Thanks, I¹ve had
>> a devil of a time trying to find it so this is my last resort.
>
> Why, do you have one coming up? :)
>
> Basically, it's a board that is convened if you do something so bad
> in an aircraft (a mishap may or may not be involved) that you might
> lose your wings. Sometimes referred to as "the long green table."
> (Although that phrase can refer to a lot of other things).
>
> Also, you misspelled it, it's FNAEB (even though everybody pronounces
> it "fenab"), short for Field Naval Aviator Evaluation Board.
>
> For more information than you wanted to know, try a google search
> (web and groups). I found the governing instruction on this webpage:
>
> http://www.combatindex.com/mil_docs/opnav_5400.html (skip down to
> 5400.109) This may be a bit tedious, like learning the English
> language by reading a dictionary.
>
> Hope this helps some.
>

By the way I meant to say FIELD Naval Aviator Evaluation Board... (FNAEB).
My apologies.

--Woody

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On 11/29/04 2:26 PM, in article , "Doug
"Woody" and Erin Beal" > wrote:

> On 11/28/04 8:23 PM, in article , "Jim
> Carriere" > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> Could someone please tell me the definition of a FENAB? Thanks, I¹ve had
>>> a devil of a time trying to find it so this is my last resort.
>>
>> Why, do you have one coming up? :)
>>
>> Basically, it's a board that is convened if you do something so bad
>> in an aircraft (a mishap may or may not be involved) that you might
>> lose your wings. Sometimes referred to as "the long green table."
>> (Although that phrase can refer to a lot of other things).
>>
>> Also, you misspelled it, it's FNAEB (even though everybody pronounces
>> it "fenab"), short for Field Naval Aviator Evaluation Board.
>>
>> For more information than you wanted to know, try a google search
>> (web and groups). I found the governing instruction on this webpage:
>>
>> http://www.combatindex.com/mil_docs/opnav_5400.html (skip down to
>> 5400.109) This may be a bit tedious, like learning the English
>> language by reading a dictionary.
>>
>> Hope this helps some.
>>
>
> By the way I meant to say FIELD Naval Aviator Evaluation Board... (FNAEB).
> My apologies.
>
> --Woody
>
Thanks guys, this is exactly what I was looking for!
jetter

[Bob McKellar]

What type of "OOPS" could cause loss of wings?

A momentary lapse of attention, i.e. gear up landing?

A coordination error during a complex task, i.e midair collission during
combat training or refueling?

Does it have to be a gross lack of judgment and/or failure to follow
procedures?

I await TINS-tinged examples!

Bob McKellar

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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:56:27 -0500, "Bob McKellar" >
wrote:

>What type of "OOPS" could cause loss of wings?

Coming back with pine branches in the wingtip of your Stoof will do
the job.

Running out of fuel in a T44A will not.

An unsuccessful "thumping" in T2 will; a downwind take-off in TA4 on a
wet runway resulting in a water induced flameout and subsequent
traumatic amputation of the tail section (caused by taking a chain
gear backwards) will not. (Note that in the TA4 example the fact that
the pilot was the COS might have some bearing on the issue.)

>A momentary lapse of attention, i.e. gear up landing?
>
>A coordination error during a complex task, i.e midair collission during
>combat training or refueling?
>
>Does it have to be a gross lack of judgment and/or failure to follow
>procedures?
>
>I await TINS-tinged examples!

Most of the time its a mishap with high "reckless disregard for the
taxpayers' property" factor.

Bill Kambic

[Elmshoot]

>>What type of "OOPS" could cause loss of wings?

Plumber on the ball.

Shooting a test Harpoon into an Indian freighter.

Thumping another airplane and hitting them resulting in loss of both planes.

Having the COS in your right seat and doing a roll for a Tacan penetration.

Sparky

[Pechs1]

Bill-<< A momentary lapse of attention, i.e. gear up landing? >><BR><BR>

Not always...;-o
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

[Jim Carriere]

Bob McKellar wrote:
> What type of "OOPS" could cause loss of wings?

I think my newsserver may have missed one of the posts in this
thread, but I should clarify that a FNAEB does always have to result
in the loss of one's wings, although it is usually a strong
possibility. Occasionally the subject of the board is exonerated.

Another thing, it is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to
an aviator's career.

I've also seen a couple of these boards for much lesser things
(examples- generally poor performance in the cockpit, and a very
minor mishap where a pilot was partly to blame).

As others have eluded to already, sometimes politics, uh,
"discretion" may be occasionally involved in the process.