More getting gliders in front of the masses....

[Dave Nadler]

You might find this entertaining:
http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane.cnnmoney/
See ya, Dave "YO electric"

PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

[Derek C]

On Aug 19, 2:53*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

The sailplane makes a typical Yankee flown on landing! Can't you guys
do a fully held off landing?

Derek C

[Dave Nadler]

On Aug 19, 5:06*am, Derek C > wrote:
> On Aug 19, 2:53*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> > See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> > PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...
>
> The sailplane makes a typical Yankee flown on landing! Can't you guys
> do a fully held off landing?
>
> Derek C

Better URL: http://tinyurl.com/YO-CNN

Landing was at very high speed because of time and
traffic requirements, not a "typical" landing...

See ya, Dave

[John Seaborn[_2_]]

Good going Dave. It is pushing the stone in the right direction when
any glider appears on any media and the electric angle is a good media
hook. Thanks for taking the time and spending the money to have
Antares at Oshkosh where the cameras and media are available.

John Seaborn

[Paul Remde]

I agree completely. Well done Dave!

Paul Remde

"John Seaborn" > wrote in message
...
> Good going Dave. It is pushing the stone in the right direction when
> any glider appears on any media and the electric angle is a good media
> hook. Thanks for taking the time and spending the money to have
> Antares at Oshkosh where the cameras and media are available.
>
> John Seaborn

[noel.wade]

On Aug 18, 6:53*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

Dave -

Thanks for taking the baton and running with it! I don't have any
magic answers myself, but the lack of soaring promotion by the SSA and
the apparent lack of a good relationship between the SSA and EAA has
been disheartening. I am thoroughly appreciative of your efforts to
bridge that gap and get soaring in front of more people!

If you see opportunities in the future where more bodies or sailplanes
would be useful at a promotional venue, please be sure to keep us
posted.

Thanks again,

--Noel

[HoUdino]

Fantastic!

LT

[kirk.stant]

> The sailplane makes a typical Yankee flown on landing! Can't you guys
> do a fully held off landing?
>
> Derek C


And you base this statement on what, exactly?

This from a country that was building taildragger jet fighters
(Scimitar) and transports (Hastings) after WW2, when the US was flying
tricycle gear fighters (P-38, P-39), bombers (B-19, B-24/25/26 etc)
and transports (DC-4) before the war - I guess you had to be good at
fully held off landings if you were a brit!

Just kidding, of course ;^)

Cheers,

Kirk

[jb92563]

On Aug 18, 6:53*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

Nicely done video.

Flown on landing at a GA airport (Did you see all the GA planes at
this place!) is standard practice, god forbid you are not able to roll
off onto the taxiway
to get out of every ones way and have to get out and push.

We reserve our full stall low energy landings for farmers fields,
football fields (either kind), dirt and sod runways, but don't worry,
we sure know how to do it
as we don't have hedgerows as an overrun but rather barbed wire,
canyons and buildings for our overshoots.



I would think that the EAA and SSA would be close buddies and can't
imagine why they do not collaborate if that statement was true about
them not doing so..

Interestingly, when I bring either of my Motor Gliders to the local
EAA Chapter 1279 or Chapter 1, the larger portion of the members are
typically
over 40 and not flying as much as Medical Issues intrude on their fun.

They typically drool over the Grob 109 and are amazed by the Fournier
RF4D and I typically sit the heavy droolers in the cockpit and answer
dozens of questions, each one bringing bigger and bigger smiles as I
talk about Pilot requirements, Fuel consumption, Aerobatics, Range,
Affordability
and the enjoyment of the challenges, goals and people in the sport.

I also have problems getting the heavy droolers OUT of the plane as
their minds are running a mile a minute trying to figure out how they
can make it theirs
and send me home with their car in trade. ;-)

Its time for the SSA to get more friendly with EAA and AOPA to give us
the most political clout possible, to protect our sport from the out
of control regulators
and ultra conservatives that want to protect society from every
remotely plausible danger to placate their own phobias.

Our dedicated Glider Operations are dwindling significantly and being
pushed hundreds of inconvenient miles to go fly is a serious detriment
to our sport in my opinion.

It would make good sense to protect our glider operations much more
vigorously by getting more help.

Ray

[Mike Mike Ground]

On Aug 18, 6:53*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...



Great work, Dave.

It’s been a very long time since our fading sport has received such
favorable media exposure particularly to such a wide audience.
It’s obvious why the Antares is popular with the aviation press, but
striking such a strong chord with the general media at the national
level is quite a break-through. Keep up the great work, we are all
in your debt. Any thoughts about taking the Antares to Kitty Hawk in
Oct for the 100th anniversary of Wrights’s soaring flight?

Michael Mitton

[PapaFox]

On Aug 18, 9:53*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

Here is a PR idea,
plug you glider into a power cord connected to a wind turbine, charge
and take off.
Closed loop system, no carbon emissions. Flying at it's purest form.

PF
PS: Nice video!

[tienshanman]

You might find this entertaining:
http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane.cnnmoney/
See ya, Dave "YO electric"

PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

The "masses"? The masses from which a few future glider pilots might emerge? Hmmm, I wonder how many of them are excited at the prospect of trying to acquire a glider that costs as much as a house?

[Frank Whiteley]

On Aug 19, 6:45*pm, PapaFox > wrote:
> On Aug 18, 9:53*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> > See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> > PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...
>
> Here is a PR idea,
> plug you glider into a power cord connected to a wind turbine, charge
> and take off.
> Closed loop system, no carbon emissions. Flying at it's purest form.
>
> PF
> PS: Nice video!

http://www.topix.net/hobbies/gliding

RSS, E-mail alerts, code for embedding, etc.

[tienshanman]

You might find this entertaining:
http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane.cnnmoney/
See ya, Dave "YO electric"

PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

Kind of like Donald Trump trying to get coal miners in Appalachia interested in driving by buzzing them in a Rolls Royce. Fat chance.

[Dave Nadler]

On Aug 19, 10:21*pm, tienshanman <tienshanman.
> wrote:
> Dave Nadler;738067 Wrote:
>
> > You might find this entertaining:
> >http://tinyurl.com/248b4tc
> > See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> > PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...
>
> The "masses"? The masses from which a few future glider pilots might
> emerge? *Hmmm, I wonder how many of them are excited at the prospect of
> trying to acquire a glider that costs as much as a house?
>
> --
> tienshanman

Its about getting people interested and excited.
Sitting hundreds of kids in the cockpit. Telling
people how much fun it is. Using whatever outlets
we can to reach people that have never heard
about gliding. Telling them how inexpensive it
can be (repeatedly during the airshow announcer
script). Promoting the FAST program. And
especially at venues where aviation enthusiasts
congregate...

Hope that's clear.
If not see:
http://www.nadler.com/public/2009Oshkosh/2009Oshkosh.html

PS: You must live in a cheap neighborhood !

[Tony[_5_]]

As far as I can tell a high performance competitive sailplane has
always cost about the same as a house. Sort of like a new Corvette.

When people ask me how much gliders cost I usually say "as much as you
want to spend".

Usually anywhere from $2500 to $250,000 will do the job.

[Wayne Paul]

"Tony" > wrote in message ...
> As far as I can tell a high performance competitive sailplane has
> always cost about the same as a house. Sort of like a new Corvette.
>
> When people ask me how much gliders cost I usually say "as much as you
> want to spend".
>
> Usually anywhere from $2500 to $250,000 will do the job.

I usually say, it is like sail boats. You can have a lot of fun sailing a dingy and a lot of fun racing in the America Cup. Fun is fun and it is not necessarily proportional to the value of boat you are sailing. The same is true in the world of soaring. I fly a HP-14 which I purchased for $6,500 (I have invested about $3,000 in up-grades over the years) and it provides me a great dead of fun and is within my recreation budget.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F

[Tony V]

Wayne Paul wrote:

>> When people ask me how much gliders cost I usually say "as much as you
>> want to spend".


When folks ask me how much a glider costs, I usually ask an other
question, "how much does a car cost?". This subject has been beaten to
death but we've all seen young adult guys (usually), with kids in tow,
show up at the field to watch. You *know* that they're interested but
even if they had the money, which they don't, they wouldn't have the time.

Tony

[Papa3]

On Aug 20, 11:08*am, "Wayne Paul" > wrote:
> "Tony" > wrote in ...
> > As far as I can tell a high performance competitive sailplane has
> > always cost about the same as a house. *Sort of like a new Corvette.
>
> > When people ask me how much gliders cost I usually say "as much as you
> > want to spend".
>
> > Usually anywhere from $2500 to $250,000 will do the job.
>
> I usually say, it is like sail boats. *You can have a lot of fun sailing a dingy and a lot of fun racing in the America Cup. *Fun is fun and it is not necessarily proportional to the value of boat you are sailing. *The same is true in the world of soaring. *I fly a HP-14 which I purchased for $6,500 (I have invested about $3,000 in up-grades over the years) and it provides me a great dead of fun and is within my recreation budget.
>
> Wayne
> HP-14 "6F"http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F

Amen. We have a very active glider port with one of the largest
collections of 1-26s around (including one which was in the lead on
the US OLC until last week). We also have a pretty large fleet of
second-generation glass. Even a couple current-generation birds.
We all seem to have a hell of a lot of fun, at price points ranging
from about $3500 (half a 1-26) up to maybe $100K. Well, excluding of
course the guy who put about 120 hours on the club's 1-34 for about
$300/year.

P3

[tienshanman]

"Tony" wrote in message ...
As far as I can tell a high performance competitive sailplane has
always cost about the same as a house. Sort of like a new Corvette.

When people ask me how much gliders cost I usually say "as much as you
want to spend".

Usually anywhere from $2500 to $250,000 will do the job.

I usually say, it is like sail boats. You can have a lot of fun sailing a dingy and a lot of fun racing in the America Cup. Fun is fun and it is not necessarily proportional to the value of boat you are sailing. The same is true in the world of soaring. I fly a HP-14 which I purchased for $6,500 (I have invested about $3,000 in up-grades over the years) and it provides me a great dead of fun and is within my recreation budget.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F

Wayne, you are absolutely right. I humbly retract my previous statements. The roots of the of soaring's terminal illness in the US lie elsewhere.....

[Dave Nadler]

On Aug 18, 9:53*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> You might find this entertaining:http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2010/08/18/f_bsg_electric_airplane...
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: Not sure of the schedule for airing on CNN...

Another video:
http://www.ge.com/innovation/electric_flight/index.html