Dick Johnson's wing flattening jig?

[ryanglover1969[_2_]]

Has anyone heard of Dick Johnson's wing flattening jig? I'm interested
in a Discus A and the owner said that this glider has had the wings
flattened. A previous owner of this glider was Wil Schuemann so mabey
he did the work. Anyone have more information about a wing flattening
jig and if it yielded any performance increase?

[Morgans[_2_]]

"ryanglover1969" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone heard of Dick Johnson's wing flattening jig? I'm interested
> in a Discus A and the owner said that this glider has had the wings
> flattened. A previous owner of this glider was Wil Schuemann so mabey
> he did the work. Anyone have more information about a wing flattening
> jig and if it yielded any performance increase?

Is that related to the left hand, or the right hand board stretcher?
--
Jim in NC

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Aug 21, 7:31*am, "Morgans" > wrote:

> Is that related to the left hand, or the right hand board stretcher?

Yes, probably so.

[Andy[_1_]]

On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, ryanglover1969 > wrote:
> Has anyone heard of Dick Johnson's wing flattening jig? I'm interested
> in a Discus A and the owner said that this glider has had the wings
> flattened. A previous owner of this glider was Wil Schuemann so mabey
> he did the work. Anyone have more information about a wing flattening
> jig and if it yielded any performance increase?

You may be thinking of the Johnson wing waviness measuring tool. It's
a 3 contact point base with a dial gauge in the middle.

It's one thing to measure what's there, quite another to change what's
there into what you might like.

Andy

[JJ Sinclair]

As a matter of fact I purchased the Wng Flattener from Dick just
before his untimley death. It is necessary to flatten both the top and
bottom of both wings to get maximum perormance increase. You must
carefully remove all wax and contaminates before placing your wings
into the molds. Then plug it into 220 (3-phase) current and select 75
amps to start with. If after an hour the wings arent flat then turn
the selector up to max (100 amps) and wait another hour. I charge
$1000 per side, so both sides of both wings will run you $4000 with a
10% discount for FNG's

Dick also sold me the rights to his Wing Stretcher which will run you
$1000 per meter. Expencive, but one customer is ecstatic over his 30
meter Libelle!
JJ

[Darryl Ramm]

On Aug 21, 1:12*pm, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> As a matter of fact I purchased the Wng Flattener from Dick just
> before his untimley death. It is necessary to flatten both the top and
> bottom of both wings to get maximum perormance increase. You must
> carefully remove all wax and contaminates before placing your wings
> into the molds. Then plug it into 220 (3-phase) current and select 75
> amps to start with. If after an hour the wings arent flat then turn
> the selector up to max (100 amps) and wait another hour. I charge
> $1000 per side, so both sides of both wings will run you $4000 with a
> 10% discount for FNG's
>
> Dick also sold me the rights to his Wing Stretcher which will run you
> $1000 per meter. Expencive, but one customer is ecstatic over his 30
> meter Libelle!
> JJ

Can the wing stretcher be modified to fit a glider tail?

Darryl

[Dave Nadler]

On Aug 21, 12:02*am, ryanglover1969 > wrote:
> Has anyone heard of Dick Johnson's wing flattening jig? I'm interested
> in a Discus A and the owner said that this glider has had the wings
> flattened. A previous owner of this glider was Wil Schuemann so mabey
> he did the work. Anyone have more information about a wing flattening
> jig and if it yielded any performance increase?

I hear that UH is in possession of the related wing-stretcher ?

[[email protected]]

On Aug 21, 4:12*pm, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> As a matter of fact I purchased the Wng Flattener from Dick just
> before his untimley death. It is necessary to flatten both the top and
> bottom of both wings to get maximum perormance increase. You must
> carefully remove all wax and contaminates before placing your wings
> into the molds. Then plug it into 220 (3-phase) current and select 75
> amps to start with. If after an hour the wings arent flat then turn
> the selector up to max (100 amps) and wait another hour. I charge
> $1000 per side, so both sides of both wings will run you $4000 with a
> 10% discount for FNG's
>
> Dick also sold me the rights to his Wing Stretcher which will run you
> $1000 per meter. Expencive, but one customer is ecstatic over his 30
> meter Libelle!
> JJ

JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
ourselves till 2015.
Are you selling out on me?
UH

[T8]

On Aug 21, 4:12*pm, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> As a matter of fact I purchased the Wng Flattener from Dick just
> before his untimley death. It is necessary to flatten both the top and
> bottom of both wings to get maximum perormance increase. You must
> carefully remove all wax and contaminates before placing your wings
> into the molds. Then plug it into 220 (3-phase) current and select 75
> amps to start with. If after an hour the wings arent flat then turn
> the selector up to max (100 amps) and wait another hour. I charge
> $1000 per side, so both sides of both wings will run you $4000 with a
> 10% discount for FNG's
>
> Dick also sold me the rights to his Wing Stretcher which will run you
> $1000 per meter. Expencive, but one customer is ecstatic over his 30
> meter Libelle!
> JJ

Dang. My three phase is either 208 or 480. I'm outta luck.

-T8

[JJ Sinclair]

> JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
> order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
> ourselves till 2015.
> Are you selling out on me?
> UH

At the time of his death, Dick Johnson was also working on a ground-
loop prevent'er and I have his concept drawings. The heart of the
system is a gyro that instantly detects lateral motion while on the
ground. The unit is armed via an oleo-strut micro switch and directs
high pressure air to the opposite wing (ground-loop detected to left =
air directed to right wing). A 2 inch plastic sleeve is mounted inside
both wings with a 10 pound sliding slug that will instantly fly from
the root rib to the wing tip just as soon as the gyro detects a ground-
loop developing. I believe the concept to be sound and I am presently
working on a method of stopping the slug when it reaches the wing tip.
Stat tuned,
JJ

[Brad[_2_]]

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> > JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
> > order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
> > ourselves till 2015.
> > Are you selling out on me?
> > UH
>
> At the time of his death, Dick Johnson was also working on a ground-
> loop prevent'er and I have his concept drawings. The heart of the
> system is a gyro that instantly detects lateral motion while on the
> ground. The unit is armed via an oleo-strut micro switch and directs
> high pressure air to the opposite wing (ground-loop detected to left =
> air directed to right wing). A 2 inch plastic sleeve is mounted inside
> both wings with a 10 pound sliding slug that will instantly fly from
> the root rib to the wing tip just as soon as the gyro detects a ground-
> loop developing. I believe the concept to be sound and I am presently
> working on a method of stopping the slug when it reaches the wing tip.
> Stat tuned,
> JJ

JJ,

Be careful, Homeland Security and the TSA might want to know more
about that Sliding Slug, AKA a projectile-aircraft mounted-airborne
delivery system!

Brad

[Grider Pirate]

On Aug 22, 8:09*am, Brad > wrote:
> On Aug 22, 7:43*am, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
> > > order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
> > > ourselves till 2015.
> > > Are you selling out on me?
> > > UH
>
> > At the time of his death, Dick Johnson was also working on a ground-
> > loop prevent'er and I have his concept drawings. The heart of the
> > system is a gyro that instantly detects lateral motion while on the
> > ground. The unit is armed via an oleo-strut micro switch and directs
> > high pressure air to the opposite wing (ground-loop detected to left =
> > air directed to right wing). A 2 inch plastic sleeve is mounted inside
> > both wings with a 10 pound sliding slug that will instantly fly from
> > the root rib to the wing tip just as soon as the gyro detects a ground-
> > loop developing. I believe the concept to be sound and I am presently
> > working on a method of stopping the slug when it reaches the wing tip.
> > Stat tuned,
> > JJ
>
> JJ,
>
> Be careful, Homeland Security and the TSA might want to know more
> about that Sliding Slug, AKA a projectile-aircraft mounted-airborne
> delivery system!
>
> Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lighten up Brad. The PAMADS is an entirely different project. What
you NEED to worry about is the stuff they're NOT talking about.

[[email protected]]

On Aug 22, 10:43*am, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> > JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
> > order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
> > ourselves till 2015.
> > Are you selling out on me?
> > UH
>
> At the time of his death, Dick Johnson was also working on a ground-
> loop prevent'er and I have his concept drawings. The heart of the
> system is a gyro that instantly detects lateral motion while on the
> ground. The unit is armed via an oleo-strut micro switch and directs
> high pressure air to the opposite wing (ground-loop detected to left =
> air directed to right wing). A 2 inch plastic sleeve is mounted inside
> both wings with a 10 pound sliding slug that will instantly fly from
> the root rib to the wing tip just as soon as the gyro detects a ground-
> loop developing. I believe the concept to be sound and I am presently
> working on a method of stopping the slug when it reaches the wing tip.
> Stat tuned,
> JJ

I still think the servo version we were talking about solves this
problem. The motion control program will provide the required decel
rate and permit accel motion and displacement to properly respond to
rate of lateral motion.
Did you review the patent disclosure I sent on this?
Should not have made public till disclosure is signed and prelim
application has been filed.
UH

[Brad[_2_]]

On Aug 22, 8:31*am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> On Aug 22, 8:09*am, Brad > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 22, 7:43*am, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
>
> > > > JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
> > > > order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
> > > > ourselves till 2015.
> > > > Are you selling out on me?
> > > > UH
>
> > > At the time of his death, Dick Johnson was also working on a ground-
> > > loop prevent'er and I have his concept drawings. The heart of the
> > > system is a gyro that instantly detects lateral motion while on the
> > > ground. The unit is armed via an oleo-strut micro switch and directs
> > > high pressure air to the opposite wing (ground-loop detected to left =
> > > air directed to right wing). A 2 inch plastic sleeve is mounted inside
> > > both wings with a 10 pound sliding slug that will instantly fly from
> > > the root rib to the wing tip just as soon as the gyro detects a ground-
> > > loop developing. I believe the concept to be sound and I am presently
> > > working on a method of stopping the slug when it reaches the wing tip..
> > > Stat tuned,
> > > JJ
>
> > JJ,
>
> > Be careful, Homeland Security and the TSA might want to know more
> > about that Sliding Slug, AKA a projectile-aircraft mounted-airborne
> > delivery system!
>
> > Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Lighten up *Brad. *The PAMADS is an entirely different project. What
> you NEED to worry about is the stuff they're NOT talking about.

hmmmm......................what I hope is in the works and is top
secret is the TTCTCT.......which is code for.........tube trailer
conversion to Cobra top.................I'll pay top dollar for that
one, on the down low tho folks.............

Brad

[Walt Connelly]

JJ- You're not spillin' the beans on th Mark IV version with the 4th
order reflex compensation are you? I thought we agreed to keep it to
ourselves till 2015.
Are you selling out on me?
UH

At the time of his death, Dick Johnson was also working on a ground-
loop prevent'er and I have his concept drawings. The heart of the
system is a gyro that instantly detects lateral motion while on the
ground. The unit is armed via an oleo-strut micro switch and directs
high pressure air to the opposite wing (ground-loop detected to left =
air directed to right wing). A 2 inch plastic sleeve is mounted inside
both wings with a 10 pound sliding slug that will instantly fly from
the root rib to the wing tip just as soon as the gyro detects a ground-
loop developing. I believe the concept to be sound and I am presently
working on a method of stopping the slug when it reaches the wing tip.
Stat tuned,
JJ

Can any of you tell me if the square of the hypotenuse is really equal to the sum of the square of the two adjacent sides or is it just really, really close?

Walt

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Aug 22, 3:04*pm, Walt Connelly

> Can any of you tell me if the square of the hypotenuse is really equal
> to the sum of the *square of the two adjacent sides or is it just
> really, really close?

I so rarely meet right angles that are truly 90.00 degrees, so I
usually use the more general form of c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab*cosC.

[Walt Connelly]

On Aug 22, 3:04*pm, Walt Connelly

Can any of you tell me if the square of the hypotenuse is really equal
to the sum of the *square of the two adjacent sides or is it just
really, really close?

I so rarely meet right angles that are truly 90.00 degrees, so I
usually use the more general form of c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab*cosC.

I thank you for reminding me of those college math courses with a foreign born prof who had such an accent that I questioned if he was speaking English.

Just wondering if the Dick Johnson wing flattener could be modified to be an SGS 1-34 nose uncrusher, tail straightener, wing undenter and canopy unshatterer?

Walt

Walt

[[email protected]]

On Aug 23, 7:05*am, Walt Connelly <Walt.Connelly.
> wrote:
> Bob Kuykendall;738587 Wrote:
>
> > On Aug 22, 3:04*pm, Walt Connelly
> > -
> > Can any of you tell me if the square of the hypotenuse is really equal
> > to the sum of the *square of the two adjacent sides or is it just
> > really, really close?-
>
> > I so rarely meet right angles that are truly 90.00 degrees, so I
> > usually use the more general form of c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab*cosC.
>
> I thank you for reminding me of those college math courses with a
> foreign born prof who had such an accent that I questioned if he was
> speaking English.
>
> Just wondering if the Dick Johnson wing flattener could be modified to
> be an SGS 1-34 nose uncrusher, tail straightener, wing undenter *and
> canopy unshatterer?
>
> Walt
>
> Walt
>
> --
> Walt Connelly

Possibly useful for first 3 but not much use for last.
Pie R round--cornbread square
UH