Relief Effort H-60 Crash

[Jim Carriere]

Hello folks, I just saw this link on yahoo news, I didn't see
anything about it on www.news.navy.mil yet, probably soon.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050110/ap_on_re_as/tsunami_helicopter_crash

All the story says is an SH-60 with 10 onboard crashed in Indonesia,
near Banda Aceh. No certain details on injuries, survivors, or
otherwise.

Hope for the best.

[Michael Wise]

In article >,
Jim Carriere > wrote:

> Hello folks, I just saw this link on yahoo news, I didn't see
> anything about it on www.news.navy.mil yet, probably soon.
>
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050110/ap_on_re_as/tsunam
> i_helicopter_crash
>
> All the story says is an SH-60 with 10 onboard crashed in Indonesia,
> near Banda Aceh. No certain details on injuries, survivors, or
> otherwise.
>
> Hope for the best.


The BBC reports four injured.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4160339.stm



--Mike

[Guy Alcala]

By JOCELYN GECKER, Associated Press Writer

BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - A U.S. Seahawk
helicopter on a relief
operation crashed in a rice paddy near
Banda Aceh's airport, injuring all
10 aboard and causing the military to
briefly suspend flights on Monday.
A new tsunami videotape showed roiling
brown water engulfing everything
in its path on a busy Indonesian
street.

Capt. Kendall L.
Card, the commander of
the USS Abraham
Lincoln aircraft carrier,
which is stationed
off the coast of Sumatra
island, said over
the ship's loudspeakers
that six of the
servicemen aboard the aircraft
had been hurt
seriously and four had minor
injuries. The
worst injury was a dislocated
pelvis, he said.

Lt. Cmdr. John M.
Daniels blamed the
crash, which
happened just after 7:30 a.m.
local time, on a
"possible mechanical
failure" and said
it was being investigated.
Fifteen Seahawk
helicopters from the
Lincoln group have
been flying up to nine
hours a day on aid
missions. Normally they
fly a maximum of
three to four hours a day.

The SH60
helicopter crashed in a rice paddy
about 500 yards
from the airport in Banda
Aceh, the main
city on Indonesia's
tsunami-battered
Sumatra island, as it was
trying to land, he
said.

"There was no fire
ball but a little smoke. It
landed on its
side," said Capt. Joe Plenzler,
adding that the
helicopter's propeller was
twisted from the
impact.

U.S. authorities
said there was no indication
the helicopter had
been shot down. The
military said the
helicopter experienced an
"in-flight
emergency" and then "executed a
hard landing."
Photos from the scene
showed the Seahawk
lying on its side in the
paddy, it's main
rotor crumpled.

Photo here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050110/481/pdj10101100200

[Ogden Johnson III]

Guy Alcala > wrote:

>By JOCELYN GECKER, Associated Press Writer
>
> BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - A U.S. Seahawk
>helicopter on a relief
> operation crashed in a rice paddy near
>Banda Aceh's airport, injuring all
> 10 aboard and causing the military to
>briefly suspend flights on Monday.
> A new tsunami videotape showed roiling
>brown water engulfing everything
> in its path on a busy Indonesian
>street.
>
> Capt. Kendall L.
>Card, the commander of
> the USS Abraham
>Lincoln aircraft carrier,

<sarcasm dripping from every pore>

Thanks for cleaning up that cut and paste job, Guy. It really
made that article readable.

</sarcasm dripping from every pore>
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

[Guy Alcala]

Ogden Johnson III wrote:

<snip>

> <sarcasm dripping from every pore>
>
> Thanks for cleaning up that cut and paste job, Guy. It really
> made that article readable.
>
> </sarcasm dripping from every pore>

Sorry about that, but I find that even when I reformat messages
after doing a cut and paste they often come out with bizarre
formatting, so I thought I'd leave this one alone and see what
happens. Sometimes they come through with the original formatting
intact, and sometimes (as in this case) not. If I could identify
any pattern to them I might be able to figure out what caused it,
but not being a computer geek that's hardly certain.

For that matter, I still have no idea why Googlegroups doesn't
usually wrap my lines at less than screen width, even though I've
got my line length set at 60 characters. It's okay when I send
it, sometimes okay and sometimes not when I read the NG on my
server, and almost always wrong on google, so you have to scroll
back and forth. I've tried various line length settings, with
absolutely no result on google.

Guy

[Dave in San diego]

Guy Alcala > wrote in
:

> Ogden Johnson III wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> <sarcasm dripping from every pore>
>>
>> Thanks for cleaning up that cut and paste job, Guy. It really
>> made that article readable.
>>
>> </sarcasm dripping from every pore>
>
> Sorry about that, but I find that even when I reformat messages
> after doing a cut and paste they often come out with bizarre
> formatting, so I thought I'd leave this one alone and see what
> happens. Sometimes they come through with the original formatting
> intact, and sometimes (as in this case) not. If I could identify
> any pattern to them I might be able to figure out what caused it,
> but not being a computer geek that's hardly certain.
>
> For that matter, I still have no idea why Googlegroups doesn't
> usually wrap my lines at less than screen width, even though I've
> got my line length set at 60 characters. It's okay when I send
> it, sometimes okay and sometimes not when I read the NG on my
> server, and almost always wrong on google, so you have to scroll
> back and forth. I've tried various line length settings, with
> absolutely no result on google.

Make it a two step process.

1. Copy and paste into notepad. Remove all line breaks. Put them back in
where you really want them.

2. Paste back into your Usenet client and send. That should do the trick.

Dave in San Diego

[John S. Shinal]

Michael Wise wrote:

>The BBC reports four injured.
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4160339.stm

Interesting - there didn't seem to have been much mention by
the BBC of the US and Australian relief flights prior to this.

[Michael Wise]

In article >,
(John S. Shinal) wrote:

> Michael Wise wrote:
>
> >The BBC reports four injured.
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4160339.stm
>
> Interesting - there didn't seem to have been much mention by
> the BBC of the US and Australian relief flights prior to this.


Au contraire. The BB covere the US relief flights extensively prior to
the crash on Jan 10.



Jan 1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4139235.stm

Jan 2
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4140961.stm

Jan 3
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4142047.stm

Jan 4
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4147321.stm

Jan 5
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4147321.stm


Jan 10 (crash)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4160339.stm




--Mike

[John S. Shinal]

Michael Wise wrote:
>Au contraire. The BB covere the US relief flights extensively prior to
>the crash on Jan 10.
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4139235.stm
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4140961.stm
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4142047.stm
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4147321.stm
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4147321.stm
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4160339.stm

Thanks for the corrections and links, Michael !

[D]

Aviation Week lists some of the US aviation assets helping with the disaster
relief:

50 US helicopters

17 from Abraham Lincoln
25 from Bonhomme Richard (including CH-53s and CH-46)
6 USAF HH-60 helicopters

US Army is sending a CH-47 Chinook unit

The article also included a photo of a MH-60S KnightHawk, which was a name I
was unfamiliar with.



D

[Thomas Schoene]

D wrote:

> The article also included a photo of a MH-60S KnightHawk, which was > a
> name I was unfamiliar with.
>

The MH-60S is very recent, within the last year or two. It's basically a
hybrid of the Seahawk and the Blackhawk, intended for VERTREP and other
roles, eventally including mine countermeasures and combat SAR. I'm not
sure whether the name "Knighthawk" is official, but it's fairly common, from
the Navy's plan to use it to replace the UH-46 and HH-46 Sea Knight (but not
the Marine CH-46s) as well as the HH-60H.

--
Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when
wrong to be put right." - Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

[Guy Alcala]

Thomas Schoene wrote:

> D wrote:
>
> > The article also included a photo of a MH-60S KnightHawk, which was > a
> > name I was unfamiliar with.
> >
>
> The MH-60S is very recent, within the last year or two. It's basically a
> hybrid of the Seahawk and the Blackhawk, intended for VERTREP and other
> roles, eventally including mine countermeasures and combat SAR. I'm not
> sure whether the name "Knighthawk" is official, but it's fairly common, from
> the Navy's plan to use it to replace the UH-46 and HH-46 Sea Knight (but not
> the Marine CH-46s) as well as the HH-60H.

The MH-60Ss involved are from HC-11. There are SH-60Fs and HH-60Hs from HS-2 on
the Kennedy, and SH-60Bs from HSL-47 also operating from the Kennedy (presumably
they would normally be based on the escorts). You can easily ID the MH-60S by
noticing the Blackhawk-style aft landing gear, as well as the two windows in the
larger (also from the Blackhawk) sliding doors.

Guy