Blanik

[John Smith]

I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a fix
for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable. Rumour says that they are
trying to find out how many Blaniks are still in use and that it will
depend on the demand whether they will develop such a fix or not.

So all interested owners of a Blanik should show their interest and send
a short mail to >.

[Canav8]

On Sep 17, 3:39*am, John Smith > wrote:
> I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a fix
> for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable. Rumour says that they are
> trying to find out how many Blaniks are still in use and that it will
> depend on the demand whether they will develop such a fix or not.
>
> So all interested owners of a Blanik should show their interest and send
> a short mail to >.

Right now the answer is Zero. None are in use. Can anyone verify this
solicitation. Has someone already informed Aircraft Industries of how
many Blaniks that were affected by the recent actions of EASA? Has
anyone at the FAA given statistical information to them? How about
economic impact? Seriously? regards, D

[Surfer![_2_]]

"John Smith" > wrote in message
...
> I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a fix
> for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable.

Where did you hear this?

[John Smith]

Surfer! wrote:
>> I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a
>> fix for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable.
>
> Where did you hear this?

I've read it on an Austrian gliding web site which is mostly reliable
(www.streckenflug.at).

[Frank Whiteley]

On Sep 17, 10:36*am, Canav8 > wrote:
> On Sep 17, 3:39*am, John Smith > wrote:
>
> > I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a fix
> > for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable. Rumour says that they are
> > trying to find out how many Blaniks are still in use and that it will
> > depend on the demand whether they will develop such a fix or not.
>
> > So all interested owners of a Blanik should show their interest and send
> > a short mail to >.
>
> Right now the answer is Zero. None are in use. Can anyone verify this
> solicitation. Has someone already informed Aircraft Industries of how
> many Blaniks that were affected by the recent actions of EASA? Has
> anyone at the FAA given statistical information to them? How about
> economic impact? Seriously? regards, D

I'm still trying to collect information from the US owners, getting a
response or two daily. I've yet to hear of an A.I. effort, but I hope
it's a work in progress. It will take some time yet just for the US
numbers.

Frank Whiteley

[[email protected]]

The first AD's mandated that information be sent to the Mfg.

I have not heard of any response from the Mfg.

I think they can figure out from their various dealers, plus the on-
line registries of the FAA and other countries related government
agencies, how many are in service (A LOT, IMO) and they know how many
they built!

For now, let's put some more comments on the FAA website! Of the
thousands that have flown Blaniks in the USA, I can't believe only
less than 20 have done so!

Aerodyne

[Surfer![_2_]]

"John Smith" > wrote in message
. ..
> Surfer! wrote:
>>> I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a
>>> fix for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable.
>>
>> Where did you hear this?
>
> I've read it on an Austrian gliding web site which is mostly reliable
> (www.streckenflug.at).

That is a big and busy website. How about providing the exact URL instead
of leaving us hunting around for it - or not?

[John Smith]

Surfer! wrote:
>>>> I've heard that LET is currently investigating whether working out a
>>>> fix for the Blanik is feasable and reasonable.
>>>
>>> Where did you hear this?
>>
>> I've read it on an Austrian gliding web site which is mostly reliable
>> (www.streckenflug.at).
>
> That is a big and busy website. How about providing the exact URL
> instead of leaving us hunting around for it - or not?

Look closer before you rant. The message is on the main page, so this
*is* the exact URL. Scroll down to 2010-09-17. Be forewarned, though,
that it doesn't say more than I did, and does so in German.

[Pat Russell[_2_]]

Sign the petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/blanik/petition.html

It is alleged that this will help.

[Tim Hanke]

On Sep 18, 9:27*am, Pat Russell > wrote:
> Sign the petition.
>
> http://www.petitiononline.com/blanik/petition.html
>
> It is alleged that this will help.

Interesting enough is that the Blanik L-13's are NOT grounded in the
Czech Republic. The gliding clubs said no to LET.
See link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.aecr.cz/1254-podminky-pro-docasne-uvolneni-l-13-formular-zadosti/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1

[Tim Mara]

I honestly think everyone is jumping to conclusions far too early....the AD
on Blanik's will reach a satisfactory conclusion all soon enough .there are
just too many of these world wide in continuous use and for all practical
purposes the AD's on these gliders have been few and far between..they are
still among the best club training gliders available by far..and they are
affordable...for the abuse these gliders have been given throughout their
lives, the "club's" lack of attention, stored outside in the elements and
basically given "office" annual inspections by many clubs and users they
have been rewarding ten's of thousands of hours and pilot
certificates....the alternatives.2-33's and 2-22's though old and a bit
clumsy have also done an admirable job or creating pilot certificates and
will continue to do so.not with a lot of glamour, but still working....K7's
and K-13's have done a good job but old and hard to find, at least at
affordable prices in the USA and the wood takes special care and
storage....and can also and has been a subject of AD's and special service
bulletins..K21's and Grobs have had and will have their share of AD's, many
very expensive to repair, more so than what the AD is likely going to be on
the L-13's...DG1000's and Duo's.not likely going to fit into club budgets
for 2011 HpH will hopefully have the new Twin Shark available to offer...it
too is however going to be out of the budget for most clubs, or, even if
they have one, not likely to fit assembled in the most typical club hangar
either......and if these glass and carbon fiber gliders are left to the
elements and tied outside like an L-13...then you'll find the real cost of
ownership.

Clubs to exist will need lower cost trainers....like Blaniks....those that
can be affordable to rent, lease, own and replace...few clubs will have
$100,000.00 budgets for new glass ships...and if they can't find affordable
gliders these clubs will simply fail to exist....
tim

"Tim Hanke" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 18, 9:27 am, Pat Russell > wrote:
> Sign the petition.
>
> http://www.petitiononline.com/blanik/petition.html
>
> It is alleged that this will help.

Interesting enough is that the Blanik L-13's are NOT grounded in the
Czech Republic. The gliding clubs said no to LET.
See link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.aecr.cz/1254-podminky-pro-docasne-uvolneni-l-13-formular-zadosti/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1


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[ray conlon]

On Sep 19, 11:16*am, "Tim Mara" > wrote:
> I honestly think everyone is jumping to conclusions far too early....the AD
> on Blanik's will reach a satisfactory conclusion all soon enough .there are
> just too many of these world wide in continuous use and for all practical
> purposes the AD's on these gliders have been few and far between..they are
> still among the best club training gliders available by far..and they are
> affordable...for the abuse these gliders have been given throughout their
> lives, the "club's" lack of attention, stored outside in the elements and
> basically given "office" annual inspections by many clubs and users they
> have been rewarding ten's of thousands of hours and pilot
> certificates....the alternatives.2-33's and 2-22's though old and a bit
> clumsy have also done an admirable job or creating pilot certificates and
> will continue to do so.not with a lot of glamour, but still working....K7's
> and K-13's have done a good job but old and hard to find, at least at
> affordable prices in the USA and the wood takes special care and
> storage....and can also and has been a subject of AD's and special service
> bulletins..K21's and Grobs have had and will have their share of AD's, many
> very expensive to repair, more so than what the AD is likely going to be on
> the L-13's...DG1000's and Duo's.not likely going to fit into club budgets
> for 2011 HpH will hopefully have the new Twin Shark available to offer...it
> too is however going to be out of the budget for most clubs, or, even if
> they have one, not likely to fit assembled in the most typical club hangar
> either......and if these glass and carbon fiber gliders are left to the
> elements and tied outside like an L-13...then you'll find the real cost of
> ownership.
>
> Clubs to exist will need lower cost trainers....like Blaniks....those that
> can be affordable to rent, lease, own and replace...few clubs will have
> $100,000.00 budgets for new glass ships...and if they can't find affordable
> gliders these clubs will simply fail to exist....
> tim
>
> "Tim Hanke" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Sep 18, 9:27 am, Pat Russell > wrote:
>
> > Sign the petition.
>
> >http://www.petitiononline.com/blanik/petition.html
>
> > It is alleged that this will help.
>
> Interesting enough is that the Blanik L-13's are NOT grounded in the
> Czech Republic. The gliding clubs said no to LET.
> See link:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=...
>
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Well said Tim.....if reasonable cost trainers cease to exsist, so will
most soaring clubs.