Military Base Closures

[Fastfwd]

Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
any suggestions are welcome.

[John A. Weeks III]

In article om>,
"Fastfwd" > wrote:

> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> any suggestions are welcome.

I think you are in luck...there are not any US Navy bases in
Oklahoma that I know of. You did post to a naval group, didn't
you?

The base closing procedure is well documented on line. Try
a google search for "BARC", or try one of the closed down
bases. There are a few closed bases in Oklahoma that have
web sites. Ardmore comes to mind, as does Clinton-Sherman
(which, ironically, was once a Naval Air Station).

-john-

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[RENABORNEY]

>In article om>,
> "Fastfwd" > wrote:
>
>> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
>> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
>> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
>> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>> any suggestions are welcome.
>

SNIP

You want to try to demilitarize Oklahoma?

Seriously?

Well, there's probably a bunch of people at teh University of Texas who would
be all in favor of that, but still....

Anyway, what do you consider a "base"? It could range from an acre or two and a
couple hundred troops at a local National Guard Armory or Reserve Center to
something the size of Fort Sill which occupies thousands of acres and has
thousands of troops assigned.

Good luck on closing Sill, it has trained all the Army's and Marine Corps'
artillerymen for generations and the investment in training facilities would
cost a large fortune (even by governemnt standards) to duplicate elsewhere. Not
to mention the fact that the good citizens of the town of Lawton would
undoubatbly tar and feather you for trying to cancel their meal ticket.

[Tiger]

Fastfwd wrote:

>Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
>that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
>understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
>Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>any suggestions are welcome.
>
>
>
Mostly it's a political thing. They form a commission, look at a list of
bases we don't need and vote to kill them. Then the state politicians
come up with some great reason we need a mostly empty Ft Dix for
example. With the drown down of forces in Germany however, Some bases
may acutally grow in the states.

[Ogden Johnson III]

"John A. Weeks III" > wrote:

> "Fastfwd" > wrote:

>> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
>> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
>> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
>> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>> any suggestions are welcome.

>I think you are in luck...there are not any US Navy bases in
>Oklahoma that I know of. You did post to a naval group, didn't
>you?
>
>The base closing procedure is well documented on line. Try
>a google search for "BARC", or try one of the closed down
>bases. There are a few closed bases in Oklahoma that have
>web sites. Ardmore comes to mind, as does Clinton-Sherman
>(which, ironically, was once a Naval Air Station).

Better yet, to a google on "BRAC", since BRAC is an acronym/FLA
for Base Realignment and Closure, not Base and Realignment
Closure.

Better yet, let me do it for you ... ... ...

Done. Here is the DefenseLink link:

http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

[--]

"John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
...
> In article om>,
> "Fastfwd" > wrote:
>
> > Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> > that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> > understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> > Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> > any suggestions are welcome.
>
> I think you are in luck...there are not any US Navy bases in
> Oklahoma that I know of.

But there is some Navy units permanatly assigned to an AF Base in Oklahoma.
VQ-3, VQ-4, NTSU, and NAMTRAGRUDET 1080 are at Tinker.

PS They always say "OKC is OK" but I never believed it.

Edwin

[MICHAEL OLEARY]

Well fastfwd. I have a question for you. Where do the military put their
bases? If not in OK then where. If don't like the military, that is fine
and you're entitled to your opinion. But remember that military personnel
are Americans just like you. We do not like living in the middle of nowhere
with nothing to see or do just like other American citizens. You should
realize that most bases have been established longer than you have probably
been alive. Most bases started off in the middle of nowhere, but
unfortunately the civilians kept building up around it. If we move the
bases into the middle of nowhere again, what happens the next time the
civilian population decide to live near bases again. I'm really tired of
people moving near air stations and complaining about the noise and
pollution. If you don't living near a base then don't move there.


"Fastfwd" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> any suggestions are welcome.
>

[Mike Kanze]

>They always say "OKC is OK" but I never believed it.

Especially if you've ever mistakenly consumed one of the dreaded
Tinkerburgers (vintage early 1970s) foisted on unsuspecting transient
aircrew in the Tinker AFB (OKC) Base Ops Snack Bar.

--
Mike Kanze

"We all know the modern American campus, or think we do: concentration
camps of the mind where students are tortured by baby-boom professors whose
speech codes, leftist politics and unseemly obsession with race, sex and
gender have distorted the ideal of higher education."

- Philip Terzian


"--" > wrote in message ...
>
> "John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article om>,
>> "Fastfwd" > wrote:
>>
>> > Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
>> > that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
>> > understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
>> > Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>> > any suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> I think you are in luck...there are not any US Navy bases in
>> Oklahoma that I know of.
>
> But there is some Navy units permanatly assigned to an AF Base in
> Oklahoma.
> VQ-3, VQ-4, NTSU, and NAMTRAGRUDET 1080 are at Tinker.
>
> PS They always say "OKC is OK" but I never believed it.
>
> Edwin
>
>

[Fastfwd]

"MICHAEL OLEARY" > wrote in message
news:mSAMd.9115$uc.6926@trnddc03...

> Well fastfwd. I have a question for you. Where do the military put their
> bases? If not in OK then where. If don't like the military, that is fine
> and you're entitled to your opinion. But remember that military personnel
> are Americans just like you. We do not like living in the middle of
> nowhere with nothing to see or do just like other American citizens. You
> should realize that most bases have been established longer than you have
> probably been alive. Most bases started off in the middle of nowhere, but
> unfortunately the civilians kept building up around it. If we move the
> bases into the middle of nowhere again, what happens the next time the
> civilian population decide to live near bases again. I'm really tired of
> people moving near air stations and complaining about the noise and
> pollution. If you don't living near a base then don't move there.



Oh no, you've got the context all wrong. I have no problem with the
military. I'm interested in what action might be taken to lend support to
the other states on the chopping block. I might be interested in seeking
employment in a competing state. I think there would be a great sense of
satisfaction from feeling a part of helping a competing state to retain it's
military bases(s) and Oklahoma lose it's competing base(s). I hope another
state might realize what my experience in Oklahoma could mean in a tight
competition and appreciate what I might offer them. I don't know myself -
possibly nothing. It might give me the opportunity to live in this country
and not feel bitter about my situation. A sort of justice if you will. I
realize the great economic impact that the military installations have for
Oklahoma.



Unfortunately where I live has become a very inhospitable place for me by no
real fault of my own. It is nearly worse than what I was brought up to
believe a Communist country might be like and Oklahoma is very much a part
of it. Poor leadership has possibly been at the root of the situation, but
Oklahoman leadership has allowed it. I very much support the military in
doing their jobs. I actually think this environment is detrimental to the
motivation of fighting for this country. I have always been very patriotic,
but my sense of faith in my country has been tested to the extreme and I
would like to see if this might be a way to restore my own faith in feeling
like a part of this country. Most people should probably never know what I've
been through here.




--
A sickened mind and spirit
The mirror tells me lies
Could I mistake myself for someone
Who lives behind my eyes
Will he escape my soul
Or will he live in me
Is he tryin' to get out or tryin' to enter me



THX 1138

[KENG]

Lemee see if I understand what your are saying... You REALLY want to
work for the military, but not in OK (where you are now), and you are
willing to destroy thousands of other lives so you can achieve your goal
of moving away from mommy and daddy.


Fastfwd wrote:

> "MICHAEL OLEARY" > wrote in message
> news:mSAMd.9115$uc.6926@trnddc03...
>
>
>>Well fastfwd. I have a question for you. Where do the military put their
>>bases? If not in OK then where. If don't like the military, that is fine
>>and you're entitled to your opinion. But remember that military personnel
>>are Americans just like you. We do not like living in the middle of
>>nowhere with nothing to see or do just like other American citizens. You
>>should realize that most bases have been established longer than you have
>>probably been alive. Most bases started off in the middle of nowhere, but
>>unfortunately the civilians kept building up around it. If we move the
>>bases into the middle of nowhere again, what happens the next time the
>>civilian population decide to live near bases again. I'm really tired of
>>people moving near air stations and complaining about the noise and
>>pollution. If you don't living near a base then don't move there.
>
>
>
>
> Oh no, you've got the context all wrong. I have no problem with the
> military. I'm interested in what action might be taken to lend support to
> the other states on the chopping block. I might be interested in seeking
> employment in a competing state. I think there would be a great sense of
> satisfaction from feeling a part of helping a competing state to retain it's
> military bases(s) and Oklahoma lose it's competing base(s). I hope another
> state might realize what my experience in Oklahoma could mean in a tight
> competition and appreciate what I might offer them. I don't know myself -
> possibly nothing. It might give me the opportunity to live in this country
> and not feel bitter about my situation. A sort of justice if you will. I
> realize the great economic impact that the military installations have for
> Oklahoma.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately where I live has become a very inhospitable place for me by no
> real fault of my own. It is nearly worse than what I was brought up to
> believe a Communist country might be like and Oklahoma is very much a part
> of it. Poor leadership has possibly been at the root of the situation, but
> Oklahoman leadership has allowed it. I very much support the military in
> doing their jobs. I actually think this environment is detrimental to the
> motivation of fighting for this country. I have always been very patriotic,
> but my sense of faith in my country has been tested to the extreme and I
> would like to see if this might be a way to restore my own faith in feeling
> like a part of this country. Most people should probably never know what I've
> been through here.
>
>
>
>

[Fastfwd]

"KENG" > wrote in message
.com...

> Lemee see if I understand what your are saying... You REALLY want to work
> for the military, but not in OK (where you are now), and you are willing
> to destroy thousands of other lives so you can achieve your goal of moving
> away from mommy and daddy.
>
>



http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/

http://www.oksenate.gov/publications/legislative_briefs/legis_brief_2003/military_facilities.html



No, I don't give a **** about working for the military and there are going
to be base closures somewhere more than likely as far as I know. I'd like
to see them closed here and you don't have a ****ing clue as to why. I hate
Oklahoma..... Actually, I'm not real high on this country right now and I'm
thinking of a way to feel a little better about it. I have every reason to
wish for Oklahoma to be the state to lose its bases over another state. So,
no, you don't understand.



You can think whatever you want about it. I asked a pretty straightforward
question. I'm looking for information that might lead me to better
understand which bases are most likely on the chopping block in competition
with Oklahoma. If I can in any way help that state to have an edge - I
think that might make me feel at home there. I sure don't feel at home here
and I don't think I ever will. It's a 'free' country right? I can move
about it as I like, right? If I think 'dirty politics' or what the ****
ever they think they are doing here are being played against me then I
should be free to campaign for another state to win a bidding to escape
realignment or closure. Possibly helping to 'save' thousands of lives for
another state might be appreciated there - wherever that might be. There is
simply no degree of reasoning with an unfortunate number of people in
Oklahoma and monumental efforts have been made.



Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here... there is
truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe occurs
out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other states don't
operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful condition. I
would hope that people who have fought for this country or are facing
fighting for this country would frown upon the state of affairs here and be
willing to consider taking their business elsewhere. Maybe not, but I've
really got not much to lose in finding out.


--
A sickened mind and spirit
The mirror tells me lies
Could I mistake myself for someone
Who lives behind my eyes
Will he escape my soul
Or will he live in me
Is he tryin' to get out or tryin' to enter me



THX 1138

[Noah Little]

Fastfwd wrote:
> Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here...
there is
> truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe occurs
> out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other states don't
> operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful condition. I
> would hope that people who have fought for this country or are facing
> fighting for this country would frown upon the state of affairs here and be
> willing to consider taking their business elsewhere. Maybe not, but I've
> really got not much to lose in finding out.

Before embarking on drastic action, consider that the problem could be
as simple as your tinfoil hat being too tight.

--
Noah

[Fastfwd]

"Noah Little" > wrote in message
...

> Fastfwd wrote:
> > Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here...
> there is
>> truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe
>> occurs out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other
>> states don't operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful
>> condition. I would hope that people who have fought for this country or
>> are facing fighting for this country would frown upon the state of
>> affairs here and be willing to consider taking their business elsewhere.
>> Maybe not, but I've really got not much to lose in finding out.
>
> Before embarking on drastic action, consider that the problem could be as
> simple as your tinfoil hat being too tight.
>
> --
> Noah



I'll take that into consideration. In fact, I think my signature indicates
that I have. I'll let the prospective states on the chopping block consider
that. I could be a liability to their cause. A state bitter about their
loss of a base may be a more hospitable place in the end - without any
intervention from me. Either way - it's an option for me to explore rather
than sitting idle and seeing what happens until I'm nearly 40 years old.


--
A sickened mind and spirit
The mirror tells me lies
Could I mistake myself for someone
Who lives behind my eyes
Will he escape my soul
Or will he live in me
Is he tryin' to get out or tryin' to enter me



THX 1138

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
"Fastfwd" > wrote:

(snip)
>
> Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here... there is
> truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe occurs
> out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other states
> don't
> operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful condition. I
> would hope that people who have fought for this country or are facing
> fighting for this country would frown upon the state of affairs here and be
> willing to consider taking their business elsewhere. Maybe not, but I've
> really got not much to lose in finding out.

If you think that oklahoma politics are bad, try the People's Republik
of Kalifornia! There, the likes of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi and
their cohorts hold the reins of power -- Arnold Schwartzenegger
notwithstanding.

[Fastfwd]

> (snip)
>>
>> Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here... there
>> is
>> truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe
>> occurs
>> out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other states
>> don't
>> operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful condition. I
>> would hope that people who have fought for this country or are facing
>> fighting for this country would frown upon the state of affairs here and
>> be
>> willing to consider taking their business elsewhere. Maybe not, but I've
>> really got not much to lose in finding out.
>
> If you think that oklahoma politics are bad, try the People's Republik
> of Kalifornia! There, the likes of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi and
> their cohorts hold the reins of power -- Arnold Schwartzenegger
> notwithstanding.

You have no idea.....

--
A sickened mind and spirit
The mirror tells me lies
Could I mistake myself for someone
Who lives behind my eyes
Will he escape my soul
Or will he live in me
Is he tryin' to get out or tryin' to enter me

THX 1138

[Fastfwd]

>>> Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here... there
>>> is
>>> truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe
>>> occurs
>>> out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other states
>>> don't
>>> operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful condition. I
>>> would hope that people who have fought for this country or are facing
>>> fighting for this country would frown upon the state of affairs here and
>>> be
>>> willing to consider taking their business elsewhere. Maybe not, but
>>> I've
>>> really got not much to lose in finding out.
>>
>> If you think that oklahoma politics are bad, try the People's Republik
>> of Kalifornia! There, the likes of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi and
>> their cohorts hold the reins of power -- Arnold Schwartzenegger
>> notwithstanding.
>
> You have no idea.....
>


Thanks for the heads up tho....

--
A sickened mind and spirit
The mirror tells me lies
Could I mistake myself for someone
Who lives behind my eyes
Will he escape my soul
Or will he live in me
Is he tryin' to get out or tryin' to enter me

THX 1138

[KENG]

I'm sorry I misunderstood your motivation.... Here's the door, don't let
the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out. I hear Canada is nice,
maybe France...

KenG

Fastfwd wrote:
> "KENG" > wrote in message
> .com...
>
>
>>Lemee see if I understand what your are saying... You REALLY want to work
>>for the military, but not in OK (where you are now), and you are willing
>>to destroy thousands of other lives so you can achieve your goal of moving
>>away from mommy and daddy.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/
>
> http://www.oksenate.gov/publications/legislative_briefs/legis_brief_2003/military_facilities.html
>
>
>
> No, I don't give a **** about working for the military and there are going
> to be base closures somewhere more than likely as far as I know. I'd like
> to see them closed here and you don't have a ****ing clue as to why. I hate
> Oklahoma..... Actually, I'm not real high on this country right now and I'm
> thinking of a way to feel a little better about it. I have every reason to
> wish for Oklahoma to be the state to lose its bases over another state. So,
> no, you don't understand.
>
>
>
> You can think whatever you want about it. I asked a pretty straightforward
> question. I'm looking for information that might lead me to better
> understand which bases are most likely on the chopping block in competition
> with Oklahoma. If I can in any way help that state to have an edge - I
> think that might make me feel at home there. I sure don't feel at home here
> and I don't think I ever will. It's a 'free' country right? I can move
> about it as I like, right? If I think 'dirty politics' or what the ****
> ever they think they are doing here are being played against me then I
> should be free to campaign for another state to win a bidding to escape
> realignment or closure. Possibly helping to 'save' thousands of lives for
> another state might be appreciated there - wherever that might be. There is
> simply no degree of reasoning with an unfortunate number of people in
> Oklahoma and monumental efforts have been made.
>
>
>
> Dirty politics hardly describes what I believe is going on here... there is
> truly as near a Gestapo like activity as I would ever want to believe occurs
> out in the open in the United States. I hold out hope that other states don't
> operate in this manner or this country is in a disgraceful condition. I
> would hope that people who have fought for this country or are facing
> fighting for this country would frown upon the state of affairs here and be
> willing to consider taking their business elsewhere. Maybe not, but I've
> really got not much to lose in finding out.
>
>

[Tank Fixer]

In article om>,
on 3 Feb 2005 12:22:09 -0800,
Fastfwd attempted to say .....

> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> any suggestions are welcome.


"For" base closures ?

--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

[Tank Fixer]

In article >,
on Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:16:04 GMT,
KENG attempted to say .....

> I'm sorry I misunderstood your motivation.... Here's the door, don't let
> the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out. I hear Canada is nice,
> maybe France...

Or springtime in Korea, North preferably...


--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

[J D]

"Tank Fixer" > wrote in message
k.net...
> In article om>,
> on 3 Feb 2005 12:22:09 -0800,
> Fastfwd attempted to say .....


> I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -


I think they should be closed too!

JD

[Tank Fixer]

In article >,
on Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:09:37 -0800,
J D attempted to say .....

>
> "Tank Fixer" > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > In article om>,
> > on 3 Feb 2005 12:22:09 -0800,
> > Fastfwd attempted to say .....
>
>
> > I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>
>
> I think they should be closed too!


Why did you snip out what I wrote ?
I DID NOT write that part above.


--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

[J D]

"Tank Fixer" > wrote in message
k.net...
> In article >,
> on Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:09:37 -0800,
> J D attempted to say .....
>
> >
> > "Tank Fixer" > wrote in message
> > k.net...
> > > In article om>,
> > > on 3 Feb 2005 12:22:09 -0800,
> > > Fastfwd attempted to say .....
> >
> >
> > > I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> >
> >
> > I think they should be closed too!
>
>
> Why did you snip out what I wrote ?
> I DID NOT write that part above.


This is what you wrote:
> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> any suggestions are welcome.


And I chose to respond to this:
>I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -


By adding: I think they should be closed too!

Any questions? Class dismissed!

[Tank Fixer]

In article >,
on Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:44:40 -0800,
J D attempted to say .....

>
> "Tank Fixer" > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > In article >,
> > on Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:09:37 -0800,
> > J D attempted to say .....
> >
> > >
> > > "Tank Fixer" > wrote in message
> > > k.net...
> > > > In article om>,
> > > > on 3 Feb 2005 12:22:09 -0800,
> > > > Fastfwd attempted to say .....
> > >
> > >
> > > > I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> > >
> > >
> > > I think they should be closed too!
> >
> >
> > Why did you snip out what I wrote ?
> > I DID NOT write that part above.
>
>
> This is what you wrote:
> > Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> > that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> > understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> > Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> > any suggestions are welcome.

No, I didn't.
You have the attributions messed up.

>
>
> And I chose to respond to this:
> >I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>
>
> By adding: I think they should be closed too!
>
> Any questions? Class dismissed!

Yes, why are you attributing comments to someone who didn't make them ?



--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

[Ogden Johnson III]

"J D" > wrote:

>"Tank Fixer" > wrote

>> Why did you snip out what I wrote ?
>> I DID NOT write that part above.

>This is what you wrote:

>> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
>> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
>> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
>> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
>> any suggestions are welcome.

>And I chose to respond to this:

>>I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -

>By adding: I think they should be closed too!
>
>Any questions? Class dismissed!

Dismissed a tad to early, JD. The person who actually wrote what
you claim Tank Fixer wrote was:

In article
om>,
"Fastfwd" > wrote:

> Can anyone direct me to a source of information - a website perhaps -
> that can educate me on the military base closure process and help me
> understand what states and/or bases are most in competition with
> Okalahoma? I would like to campaign for base closures in Oklahoma -
> any suggestions are welcome.

Even though class has been dismissed, you get to sit in the
corner for another hour, with a dunce cap on your head, JD.

If you don't know how to keep your attributions and quotes on
followup posts straight, maybe you should refrain from posting on
Usenet for a while. That way, it will take longer for people to
find out that you are dumb as a rock.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

[[email protected]]

Try this link:
http://www.g2mil.com/2005.htm [www.g2.mil is something quite
different!]
although this on-line magazine smells a bit with just another "theory
of conspiracy";-)

By the way, the editor gives some reasons for closing MCAS Miramar.
Realistic, though not fully convinceable...

Best regards,

Jacek Zemlo

[John Carrier]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Try this link:
> http://www.g2mil.com/2005.htm [www.g2.mil is something quite
> different!]
> although this on-line magazine smells a bit with just another "theory
> of conspiracy";-)
>
> By the way, the editor gives some reasons for closing MCAS Miramar.
> Realistic, though not fully convinceable...

g2mil.com is a vanity web site expressing its owner's highly questionable
(but he's got a zillion of 'em) opinions. His "list" has been circulated by
a Navy deputy undersecretary, as a "leaked" DoD document, and multiple times
as an unofficial BRAC list.

The "list's" author's credentials: former (not career) Marine would made it
up to Captain and who's hobby is military affairs. Good for him.

The Marine Corps has traditionally based its air assets in close proximity
to the troops those assets will support. IIRC, Camp Pendleton is the hub of
USMC west coast and I suspect the service likes having a big slice of Marine
Air at Miramar (where it is convenient to many operating areas and targets
and a short hop to 29 Palms).

Jointness and Transformation are the guiding principles of BRAC 2005. It'll
be interesting to see if the list (Due in mid-May) reflects that kind of
thinking or merely regurgitates much of the flawed logic of BRAC 1993/5.

R / John